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  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you guys going to admit your news source lied to you yet?

    Keep lying



    I'm talking about how your news source said the law changed. And it went on to say it changed for the purpose of allowing the form to be filled out based on second hand information. Both of which are lies.


    The IG only accepted complaints based on 1st hand knowledge of events (until changing the form/rules to allow this). By definition the IG would not have even accepted the paper complaint. Furthermore by definition it was not an Urgent Matter. The snitches' lawyers knew that so they kept saying Urgent even though it didn't meet the definition. For both reasons it should not have been forwarded to Congress.


    Again a straight up lie. So you have now joined Race and Blob as posters who have lied in this thread. You could always file a complaint based upon second hand info. Even in the form before the Aug 2019 change there was a field to check if you received the information first hand or second hand. The IG wouldn't deem the complaint urgent and credible (and still won't) thus triggering the laws requirement to pass it along to congress unless they gather enough direct evidence during the 14 day investigative period to deem the complaint credible.

    “It’s an explanation of the IG’s standard for assessing credibility,” said Sanchez in an interview with The Daily Beast. “The IG isn’t going to forward it to the DNI if it can’t corroborate secondhand or indirect information. The whistleblower’s job is not to investigate. That is the job of the IG.”

    In other words, Trump’s whistleblower didn’t go through some shady “deep state” backdoor. He or she followed the process, and government investigators found the firsthand evidence themselves.
    Houston lost what little credibility he had when he stuck his neck out to defend Trump on the Alabama hurricane. He proved he's nothing but another blind Trump cult follower who will distort reality in an effort to hide the Orange Leader's stupidity. Here he is again peddling another lie from the right. Sad!
    When did you have credibility Kunt? Was it when you claimed Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress or was it when you lied your ass off and claimed I'd pushed Pizzagate?
    Why did you lie about the whistleblower law?
    Why are you changing the topic Kunt? And I didn't lie. But you sure the fuck did when you claimed I pushed the Pizzagate story.
    That's the topic of this thread that you started. JFC you are bad at this.

    You were all in on the Pizzagate scandal. Stop lying bitch.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you guys going to admit your news source lied to you yet?

    Keep lying



    I'm talking about how your news source said the law changed. And it went on to say it changed for the purpose of allowing the form to be filled out based on second hand information. Both of which are lies.


    The IG only accepted complaints based on 1st hand knowledge of events (until changing the form/rules to allow this). By definition the IG would not have even accepted the paper complaint. Furthermore by definition it was not an Urgent Matter. The snitches' lawyers knew that so they kept saying Urgent even though it didn't meet the definition. For both reasons it should not have been forwarded to Congress.


    Again a straight up lie. So you have now joined Race and Blob as posters who have lied in this thread. You could always file a complaint based upon second hand info. Even in the form before the Aug 2019 change there was a field to check if you received the information first hand or second hand. The IG wouldn't deem the complaint urgent and credible (and still won't) thus triggering the laws requirement to pass it along to congress unless they gather enough direct evidence during the 14 day investigative period to deem the complaint credible.

    “It’s an explanation of the IG’s standard for assessing credibility,” said Sanchez in an interview with The Daily Beast. “The IG isn’t going to forward it to the DNI if it can’t corroborate secondhand or indirect information. The whistleblower’s job is not to investigate. That is the job of the IG.”

    In other words, Trump’s whistleblower didn’t go through some shady “deep state” backdoor. He or she followed the process, and government investigators found the firsthand evidence themselves.
    Houston lost what little credibility he had when he stuck his neck out to defend Trump on the Alabama hurricane. He proved he's nothing but another blind Trump cult follower who will distort reality in an effort to hide the Orange Leader's stupidity. Here he is again peddling another lie from the right. Sad!
    When did you have credibility Kunt? Was it when you claimed Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress or was it when you lied your ass off and claimed I'd pushed Pizzagate?
    Why did you lie about the whistleblower law?
    Why are you changing the topic Kunt? And I didn't lie. But you sure the fuck did when you claimed I pushed the Pizzagate story.
    That's the topic of this thread that you started. JFC you are bad at this.

    You were all in on the Pizzagate scandal. Stop lying bitch.
    Naahhh, the topic is you're a lying Kunt. Your Pizzagate comment just confirms it.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,012
    edited September 2019
    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you guys going to admit your news source lied to you yet?

    Keep lying



    I'm talking about how your news source said the law changed. And it went on to say it changed for the purpose of allowing the form to be filled out based on second hand information. Both of which are lies.


    The IG only accepted complaints based on 1st hand knowledge of events (until changing the form/rules to allow this). By definition the IG would not have even accepted the paper complaint. Furthermore by definition it was not an Urgent Matter. The snitches' lawyers knew that so they kept saying Urgent even though it didn't meet the definition. For both reasons it should not have been forwarded to Congress.


    Again a straight up lie. So you have now joined Race and Blob as posters who have lied in this thread. You could always file a complaint based upon second hand info. Even in the form before the Aug 2019 change there was a field to check if you received the information first hand or second hand. The IG wouldn't deem the complaint urgent and credible (and still won't) thus triggering the laws requirement to pass it along to congress unless they gather enough direct evidence during the 14 day investigative period to deem the complaint credible.

    “It’s an explanation of the IG’s standard for assessing credibility,” said Sanchez in an interview with The Daily Beast. “The IG isn’t going to forward it to the DNI if it can’t corroborate secondhand or indirect information. The whistleblower’s job is not to investigate. That is the job of the IG.”

    In other words, Trump’s whistleblower didn’t go through some shady “deep state” backdoor. He or she followed the process, and government investigators found the firsthand evidence themselves.
    You are a HondoFSBro. Reading is hard.

    The partisan hack can turn in a piece of paper wiped with his shite...there is nothing illegal about that. By law, however, it is not an urgent matter.

    The original complaint would have been treated the same as a piece of paper wiped in the guy's shite and not even have been accepted because it was heresay...it did not contain 1st hand knowledge. At all. And the 2nd hand knowledge is a lie as the transcript shows. Lawfare lawyers realized that and changed the form. With the updated form he turned it in and it went to the DNI. The DNI looked into it and found that it was 1) baseless (per DOJ) and 2) partisan. So he did not notify or forward it to Congress. He was correct.

    Shitt and Botox helped write it however and want it as a basis to attack Trump. So they screamed like the little girls and the HondoBros like yourself ate up their shite sandwich lies and here we are.

    Keep lying and showing off why you are GodDamnStupid
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you guys going to admit your news source lied to you yet?

    Keep lying



    I'm talking about how your news source said the law changed. And it went on to say it changed for the purpose of allowing the form to be filled out based on second hand information. Both of which are lies.


    The IG only accepted complaints based on 1st hand knowledge of events (until changing the form/rules to allow this). By definition the IG would not have even accepted the paper complaint. Furthermore by definition it was not an Urgent Matter. The snitches' lawyers knew that so they kept saying Urgent even though it didn't meet the definition. For both reasons it should not have been forwarded to Congress.


    Again a straight up lie. So you have now joined Race and Blob as posters who have lied in this thread. You could always file a complaint based upon second hand info. Even in the form before the Aug 2019 change there was a field to check if you received the information first hand or second hand. The IG wouldn't deem the complaint urgent and credible (and still won't) thus triggering the laws requirement to pass it along to congress unless they gather enough direct evidence during the 14 day investigative period to deem the complaint credible.

    “It’s an explanation of the IG’s standard for assessing credibility,” said Sanchez in an interview with The Daily Beast. “The IG isn’t going to forward it to the DNI if it can’t corroborate secondhand or indirect information. The whistleblower’s job is not to investigate. That is the job of the IG.”

    In other words, Trump’s whistleblower didn’t go through some shady “deep state” backdoor. He or she followed the process, and government investigators found the firsthand evidence themselves.
    You are a HondoFSBro. Reading is hard.

    The partisan hack can turn in a piece of paper wiped with his shite...there is nothing illegal about that. By law, however, it is not an urgent matter.

    The original complaint would have been treated the same as a piece of paper wiped in the guy's shite and not even have been accepted because it was heresay...it did not contain 1st hand knowledge. At all. And the 2nd hand knowledge is a lie as the transcript shows. Lawfare lawyers realized that and changed the form. With the updated form he turned it in and it went to the DNI. The DNI looked into it and found that it was 1) baseless (per DOJ) and 2) partisan. So he did not notify or forward it to Congress. He was correct.

    Shitt and Botox helped write it however and want it as a basis to attack Trump. So they screamed like the little girls and the HondoBros like yourself ate up their shite sandwich lies and here we are.

    Keep lying and showing off why you are GodDamnStupid
    yahoooooooo - now we go full on conspiratard! Again you continue to conflate what is required to file a complaint and what is necessary to trigger the urgent and credible designation which requires the complaint to be turned over to congress. If just being able to file the complaint required first hand knowledge then why include this in the form? It's upto the IG to corroborate the complaint with direct evidence which then moves it to the next step as happened here.


  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,012
    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are you guys going to admit your news source lied to you yet?

    Keep lying



    I'm talking about how your news source said the law changed. And it went on to say it changed for the purpose of allowing the form to be filled out based on second hand information. Both of which are lies.


    The IG only accepted complaints based on 1st hand knowledge of events (until changing the form/rules to allow this). By definition the IG would not have even accepted the paper complaint. Furthermore by definition it was not an Urgent Matter. The snitches' lawyers knew that so they kept saying Urgent even though it didn't meet the definition. For both reasons it should not have been forwarded to Congress.


    Again a straight up lie. So you have now joined Race and Blob as posters who have lied in this thread. You could always file a complaint based upon second hand info. Even in the form before the Aug 2019 change there was a field to check if you received the information first hand or second hand. The IG wouldn't deem the complaint urgent and credible (and still won't) thus triggering the laws requirement to pass it along to congress unless they gather enough direct evidence during the 14 day investigative period to deem the complaint credible.

    “It’s an explanation of the IG’s standard for assessing credibility,” said Sanchez in an interview with The Daily Beast. “The IG isn’t going to forward it to the DNI if it can’t corroborate secondhand or indirect information. The whistleblower’s job is not to investigate. That is the job of the IG.”

    In other words, Trump’s whistleblower didn’t go through some shady “deep state” backdoor. He or she followed the process, and government investigators found the firsthand evidence themselves.
    You are a HondoFSBro. Reading is hard.

    The partisan hack can turn in a piece of paper wiped with his shite...there is nothing illegal about that. By law, however, it is not an urgent matter.

    The original complaint would have been treated the same as a piece of paper wiped in the guy's shite and not even have been accepted because it was heresay...it did not contain 1st hand knowledge. At all. And the 2nd hand knowledge is a lie as the transcript shows. Lawfare lawyers realized that and changed the form. With the updated form he turned it in and it went to the DNI. The DNI looked into it and found that it was 1) baseless (per DOJ) and 2) partisan. So he did not notify or forward it to Congress. He was correct.

    Shitt and Botox helped write it however and want it as a basis to attack Trump. So they screamed like the little girls and the HondoBros like yourself ate up their shite sandwich lies and here we are.

    Keep lying and showing off why you are GodDamnStupid
    yahoooooooo - now we go full on conspiratard! Again you continue to conflate what is required to file a complaint and what is necessary to trigger the urgent and credible designation which requires the complaint to be turned over to congress. If just being able to file the complaint required first hand knowledge then why include this in the form? It's upto the IG to corroborate the complaint with direct evidence which then moves it to the next step as happened here.


    Keep lying.

    Link to the original form: https://www.scribd.com/document/427767481/Icwpa-Form-401-24may18

    You really are a HondoBro...not a sharp one.

    You can have your eyes lie to you all you want...the document itself says:
    1) In order to find an urgent concern “credible,” the IC IG must be in possession of reliable, first-hand information.
    2) While IC IG will protect the identity of persons who make disclosures, it cannot consider anonymous disclosures for ICWPA processing. If a disclosure is filed by an anonymous source, the disclosure will be referred to the Office of Inspector General in the appropriate agency and the IC IG will take no further action.

    The actual whistleblowing claim has to be first-hand knowledge...i.e. I am Hillary Butt-sniffer 1 and I know that Hillary Butt-sniffer 2 is in possession of a transcript that says 'Orange Man Bad = crime'. Hillary Butt-sniffer 1 can check the box "Other employees have told me about events or recorded involved", and can specify Hillary Butt-sniffer 2 as having a tangible first-hand transcript of 'Orange Man Bad = crime' and meet the guidelines of whistle-blowing.

    The political hack that filed this was not a source of literally anything except hearsay. There was no identified sourcing. Except Buzzfeed News. Because HondoBros will believe anything.

    Therefore by the original filing it would have been treated the same as a blank piece of paper with shite wiped on it.

    Which is why the Lawfare Lawyers had to change the form.

    Keep eating that lying shite sandwich and keep lying...

    GodDamnStupid...
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    look at that dipshit. The Whistleblower actually used the May 2018 form...


  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited September 2019
    It was changed because it was Plan “C” of the seditionists conspiracy.

    Here is Sack of Shit, mendacious Whistleblower Attorney Mark Said reimagining the Truth as Leftists are won’t to do.

    OUCH: Sean Davis schools Mark Zaid (a whistleblower attorney) for making this ridiculous claim about ‘first-hand knowledge’

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/09/30/ouch-sean-davis-schools-mark-zaid-a-whistleblower-attorney-for-making-this-ridiculous-claim-about-first-hand-knowledge/
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Too late Deej - gig is already up on this edition of Trumptard fake news.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,012
    GDS said:

    look at that dipshit. The Whistleblower actually used the May 2018 form...


    Sweet! Even GodDamnStupid admits the document turned in is the equivalent of a blank sheet of paper wipes with shite. Because the one thing GodDamnStupid and everyone else can’t point to in the claim is a first-hand account of anything, and as the transcript showed the second-hand account was a bunch of lies.

    Keep lying.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Lying about the submission to deflect from the content.

    Nobody is falling for this bullshit. Keep spewing word salad to convince yourself you have info.