Wide Receivers

theknowledge

I don't know if this has been discussed already but here is something I was thinking about while taking a shit this morning.

Maybe the trio of Bynum, Osborne and Spiker were a little overrated initially. Hear me out.

Those guys were all fairly high rated receivers coming out of high school and were identified by Hamdan and signed by Lubick. Is it possible that Hamdan's evaluations were poor? I think most of us here believe that Adams is a pretty good WR coach. His former players go out of their way to praise his temperament and skill development in their growth in the position. As a recruiter he seems to be swinging and hitting on high hanging fruit. So far so good. Our senior WR's are still starting and still getting the bulk of the reps on game days. Still. Playing. Could those three WR's be Henry Roberts? Four star guys that can't beat out the upperclassmen in front of them and are now being passed by a true freshman behind them. Puka is an Adams recruit. A guy he identified and focused on. A guy he believed in. Now he is seeing the field and will hopefully begin making more plays like the one we saw Saturday. Guys do play as freshman and redshirt freshman in this offense. It has happened. Jake Browning, Dante Pettis, Chico McClutchins, Aaron Fuller, Hunter Bryant, Nick Harris, Jaxson Kirkland, Cade Otton. I mean if those three were balling out in practice they would be given the opportunity to ball out in games. Right? Other guys did it in this system and now so is Puka. The coaches rave about Puka. They say they want him on the field more as he gets more comfortable in the offense. Dude has only been on campus for a few months. He wasn't a spring enrollee. The other three are not talked about unless Pete or Junior are talking about the "young guys". That's not encouraging. I expect to see our stable of JAGS playing most off the year barring injury because it seems that they may be the best we have at the moment.

Yeah, yeah, just wait till Adams gets his guys in here. 2023 will be speshul

FYFMFE

FireCohen

Idk wtf is going on, but rolling with midgets at WR is not winning formula. Loved watching throwing screens with midgets blocking.

AtomicDawg

There are bigger issues than mis evaluating. The starters aren’t good. And they sure as hell cant block. They need to get Bynum and Osborne and puka reps to at least even block on a wide receiver screen. Nothing is more worthless than watching fuller or opera try and block on a we screen. That play would actually be effective with a big arm qb if they didn’t get their shit pushed in every time.

Personally I think it is more of an issue with the complication of the offense. The fact that we can’t even get them in there to block is stupid

backthepack

Everyone identified Puka, Jalen, and Rome lol

RoadDawg55

Abundance. Those guys were overrated, we didn’t develop well under Lubick, Pete’s offense. That said, if you drop balls you should sit and let others get chances. You gotta perform.

But out of all those guys, Puka is the only one I think is clearly better and needs to play and get comfortable.

theknowledge

backthepack said:

Everyone identified Puka, Jalen, and Rome lol

I get that. I'm not retarded and gay. Hamdan's trio was identified early and wrapped up early as well. All I'm saying is maybe he missed on them. Dante, Chico and Fuller all got play as young receivers in this offense. Why none of these guys. Osborne I have hope for maybe Bynum. They are young but as of yet have not dethroned the midget brigade. What does that tell you? Our coaches have gotten more dumb in the last four years and will not let young WRs play because the other three suffered so much from the exposure or that they are playing the "best" guys we have?

NeGgaPlEaSe

I stand with @jamesosborne1959 , his kid is far from over rated. He would be killing it at Oregon or Wazzu. We just have a shit offense. Put him on the field with Skinny and tell me he sucks at the end of the season.

RoadDawg55

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

I stand with @jamesosborne1959 , his kid is far from over rated. He would be killing it at Oregon or Wazzu. We just have a shit offense. Put him on the field with Skinny and tell me he sucks at the end of the season.

He doesn’t suck but he’s not a difference maker. Our offense has a lot more problems than simply putting Osborne in.

NeGgaPlEaSe

RoadDawg55 said:

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

I stand with @jamesosborne1959 , his kid is far from over rated. He would be killing it at Oregon or Wazzu. We just have a shit offense. Put him on the field with Skinny and tell me he sucks at the end of the season.

He doesn’t suck but he’s not a difference maker. Our offense has a lot more problems than simply putting Osborne in.

Disagree 100% he’s more of a difference maker than who we have on the field now. I could since the frustration from his dad. I venture to suggest he’s more of a difference maker than Todd Elstrom was athletically given his track accolades. Spiker, was hurt, he will be fine. The offense has struggled since 2016 based more on the ability of the receivers to get open than any other component.

haie

Browning only needed 2 good receivers to dump points and he sucked.

It doesn't matter what happens with the seniors. That's not the embarrassing part. What is embarrassing is that's it's obvious that with Eason having Hunter Bryant as one of those options you only needed one or two more playmakers so that the offense can cover the defensive warts long enough to where the defense is good enough in time for the season-defining games. I don't think the defense is entirely broken for the year. But to take away reps from a clear second option that you even admit has superior ball skills is unforgivable roster management.

We're going to win 8 games and then get a shit bowl win.

We're going to have some jawesome game where Puca and Hunter go off and we win by 20-35 against a good team in the Pac and we're all wondering why the fuck they waited so long to get this thing going.

Because of these terrible decisions we're going to watch Oregon, WAzzu, and Utah fight for the conference championship which is unforgivable.

DawgDaze71

Transfer Portal beckons. If Puka has passed up players with 2 years in the system the writing is on the wall. I expect at least two WR to make like Moses and part the Purple Sea in hopes of playing time.

1to392831weretaken

DawgDaze71 said:

Transfer Portal beckons. If Puka has passed up players with 2 years in the system the writing is on the wall. I expect at least two WR to make like Moses and part the Purple Sea in hopes of playing time.

This makes no sense. By the time they'd be eligible to play, they'd be two-year starters at UW. All three of the current starters graduate after the season. They're next up.

NeGgaPlEaSe

Opera’s endzone fumble touch back 🤦‍♂️ He should be demoted immediately. How the Fck did he not score

RoadDawg55

Won’t be surprised if one leaves. However, they will have an opportunity for a much larger role next year.

I’m kind of glad there is nobody that will be established so that McMillan and Rome can get on the field easier. It’s going to be a wide open competition.

GrundleStiltzkin

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

Opera’s endzone fumble touch back 🤦‍♂️ He should be demoted immediately. How the Fck did he not score

Bacchy higher on my shitlist than fuller

DawgDaze71

1to392831weretaken said:

DawgDaze71 said:

Transfer Portal beckons. If Puka has passed up players with 2 years in the system the writing is on the wall. I expect at least two WR to make like Moses and part the Purple Sea in hopes of playing time.

This makes no sense. By the time they'd be eligible to play, they'd be two-year starters at UW. All three of the current starters graduate after the season. They're next up.

Yeah I see your point. I'm wondering if Ty Jones redshirts this season if anyone would contemplate leaving it may be Jordan Chin just because he's surrounded by younger talent and could be the odd man out in playing time as an upperclassman next season.

Houhusky

People have been calling Breydon Lenius Ty Jones the off season star and calling for him to be the breakout player for years now. Every year since Ross and Pettis the solution has been some taller guy that has never played... I dont think anyone knows wtf is going on in the blackhole that is the WR room other than it keeps spitting out JAG midgets. All I know is if you are dropping as many passes as someone like Chico has you probably shouldnt be playing.

whuggy

Houhusky said:

People have been calling Breydon Lenius Ty Jones the off season star and calling for him to be the breakout player for years now. Every year since Ross and Pettis the solution has been some taller guy that has never played... I dont think anyone knows wtf is going on in the blackhole that is the WR room other than it keeps spitting out JAG midgets. All I know is if you are dropping as many passes as someone like Chico has you probably shouldnt be playing.

I really don't care if the receiver is 5 foot 5 or 6 foot 5. Get open, catch the ball. Jesus Christ, Julian Edelman is probably going into the Hall of Fame at 5 foot 10, 200.

NeGgaPlEaSe

whuggy said:

Houhusky said:

People have been calling Breydon Lenius Ty Jones the off season star and calling for him to be the breakout player for years now. Every year since Ross and Pettis the solution has been some taller guy that has never played... I dont think anyone knows wtf is going on in the blackhole that is the WR room other than it keeps spitting out JAG midgets. All I know is if you are dropping as many passes as someone like Chico has you probably shouldnt be playing.

I really don't care if the receiver is 5 foot 5 or 6 foot 5. Get open, catch the ball. Jesus Christ, Julian Edelman is probably going into the Hall of Fame at 5 foot 10, 200.

whuggy

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

whuggy said:

Houhusky said:

People have been calling Breydon Lenius Ty Jones the off season star and calling for him to be the breakout player for years now. Every year since Ross and Pettis the solution has been some taller guy that has never played... I dont think anyone knows wtf is going on in the blackhole that is the WR room other than it keeps spitting out JAG midgets. All I know is if you are dropping as many passes as someone like Chico has you probably shouldnt be playing.

I really don't care if the receiver is 5 foot 5 or 6 foot 5. Get open, catch the ball. Jesus Christ, Julian Edelman is probably going into the Hall of Fame at 5 foot 10, 200.

Great fucking receiver. Reminds me of Paul Skansi a bit. So funny how we overanalyze every thing on here. It's just not that difficult. Get open, catch the fucking ball.

Beno4Life

To the OP, maybe Hamdan/Lubick did whiff on those guys? I doubt it, but I’ll flatter you for...a second.

My issue is that if the Smurfs were performing at an all-conference level against good defenses (not Eastern) and had a track record of doing so, then yeah, back-burner the highly-rated dudes, a la BBK playing over Camilo.

But they’re playing at a below average level. So why not mix it up and give others PT to prove themselves?

It makes no sense. Anyone who is anything raved about Ozzy’s spring and fall camps. Same with Bynum. Sadly, Spiker, who clearly looks the part, is developing slower.