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Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,328
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie. Most of it is indefensible, so naturally, the usual suspects here are defending it.
    So Trump was convicted of tax evasion?
    No. He's innocent. Like OJ.
    I recall OJ being charged with a crime. Was Trump charged with a crime?
    You weren't charged with your felonies either, right blob?

    Pure as the driven snow!
    Wasn't charged, hell I was never even arrested. I'm an innocent man. I realize that that you'd love to be able to charge your political opponents with thought crimes and crimes you feel they've committed but for now we still have a Constitution and due process in this country comrade.
    Drug running isn't a thought crime.
    Now all you need is evidence that it ever happened
    You were more candid on the Shed.
    Too late

    CA Statute of Limitation on Drug Charges
    In California, possession of controlled substances is illegal under California Health and Safety Code § 11350. Most of these possession crimes are punished as a misdemeanor offense for most drugs, except marijuana (which has lighter punishments and changes drastically this coming January). This means that most of these drug possession crimes, such as cocaine possession or prescription drug crimes carry up to one year in jail, plus potential fines and court costs. Marijuana possession is currently punished with up to 6 months in jail for a large amount, and a fine only for a small amount. (The cutoff for a small amount is 28.5 grams.)

    In California, crimes that carry potential imprisonment as a penalty have a statute of limitations of 3 years. Under California Penal Code § 801, this means the prosecution of a crime must start within 3 years of the crime’s commission. This applies as long as you are within the state of California. If you leave the state, the statute of limitations is paused or “tolled” until you reenter the state. This can extend the filing deadline by up to 3 years, for a total of 6 years to bring charges against you.

    The statute of limitations only creates a deadline for police and prosecutors to file charges against you. This means that they have 3 years to arrest you and charge you with the crime, or to file charges with a court and issue a summons to force you to appear in court. This does not mean that the case must be charged, tried, and completed within 3 years of the offense.
    No one is suggesting blob can still be charged with any of his felonies. He's innocent in exactly the same way Daddy is.
    Except bob wasn't audited numerous times. Other than that you nailed it

    We only have Daddy's word that he was audited. His word ain't worth shit.
    Using your logic

    If only Obama didn't spend 8 years unleashing the IRS on political opponents

    He did. HTH

    Nobody with the profile and tax returns of Trump went 40 years without an audit

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,131
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie. Most of it is indefensible, so naturally, the usual suspects here are defending it.
    So Trump was convicted of tax evasion?
    No. He's innocent. Like OJ.
    I recall OJ being charged with a crime. Was Trump charged with a crime?
    You weren't charged with your felonies either, right blob?

    Pure as the driven snow!
    Wasn't charged, hell I was never even arrested. I'm an innocent man. I realize that that you'd love to be able to charge your political opponents with thought crimes and crimes you feel they've committed but for now we still have a Constitution and due process in this country comrade.
    Drug running isn't a thought crime.
    Now all you need is evidence that it ever happened
    You were more candid on the Shed.
    Too late

    CA Statute of Limitation on Drug Charges
    In California, possession of controlled substances is illegal under California Health and Safety Code § 11350. Most of these possession crimes are punished as a misdemeanor offense for most drugs, except marijuana (which has lighter punishments and changes drastically this coming January). This means that most of these drug possession crimes, such as cocaine possession or prescription drug crimes carry up to one year in jail, plus potential fines and court costs. Marijuana possession is currently punished with up to 6 months in jail for a large amount, and a fine only for a small amount. (The cutoff for a small amount is 28.5 grams.)

    In California, crimes that carry potential imprisonment as a penalty have a statute of limitations of 3 years. Under California Penal Code § 801, this means the prosecution of a crime must start within 3 years of the crime’s commission. This applies as long as you are within the state of California. If you leave the state, the statute of limitations is paused or “tolled” until you reenter the state. This can extend the filing deadline by up to 3 years, for a total of 6 years to bring charges against you.

    The statute of limitations only creates a deadline for police and prosecutors to file charges against you. This means that they have 3 years to arrest you and charge you with the crime, or to file charges with a court and issue a summons to force you to appear in court. This does not mean that the case must be charged, tried, and completed within 3 years of the offense.
    No one is suggesting blob can still be charged with any of his felonies. He's innocent in exactly the same way Daddy is.
    Except bob wasn't audited numerous times. Other than that you nailed it

    We only have Daddy's word that he was audited. His word ain't worth shit.
    Using your logic

    If only Obama didn't spend 8 years unleashing the IRS on political opponents

    He did. HTH

    Nobody with the profile and tax returns of Trump went 40 years without an audit

    Yet not one shred of evidence of ANY audit has been produced--and these audits have apparently lasted for decades. Jesus! No wonder you got taken for your $15K.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Yes, both of us were never even charged with a crime let alone arrested for committing a crime.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,328
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie. Most of it is indefensible, so naturally, the usual suspects here are defending it.
    So Trump was convicted of tax evasion?
    No. He's innocent. Like OJ.
    I recall OJ being charged with a crime. Was Trump charged with a crime?
    You weren't charged with your felonies either, right blob?

    Pure as the driven snow!
    Wasn't charged, hell I was never even arrested. I'm an innocent man. I realize that that you'd love to be able to charge your political opponents with thought crimes and crimes you feel they've committed but for now we still have a Constitution and due process in this country comrade.
    Drug running isn't a thought crime.
    Now all you need is evidence that it ever happened
    You were more candid on the Shed.
    Too late

    CA Statute of Limitation on Drug Charges
    In California, possession of controlled substances is illegal under California Health and Safety Code § 11350. Most of these possession crimes are punished as a misdemeanor offense for most drugs, except marijuana (which has lighter punishments and changes drastically this coming January). This means that most of these drug possession crimes, such as cocaine possession or prescription drug crimes carry up to one year in jail, plus potential fines and court costs. Marijuana possession is currently punished with up to 6 months in jail for a large amount, and a fine only for a small amount. (The cutoff for a small amount is 28.5 grams.)

    In California, crimes that carry potential imprisonment as a penalty have a statute of limitations of 3 years. Under California Penal Code § 801, this means the prosecution of a crime must start within 3 years of the crime’s commission. This applies as long as you are within the state of California. If you leave the state, the statute of limitations is paused or “tolled” until you reenter the state. This can extend the filing deadline by up to 3 years, for a total of 6 years to bring charges against you.

    The statute of limitations only creates a deadline for police and prosecutors to file charges against you. This means that they have 3 years to arrest you and charge you with the crime, or to file charges with a court and issue a summons to force you to appear in court. This does not mean that the case must be charged, tried, and completed within 3 years of the offense.
    No one is suggesting blob can still be charged with any of his felonies. He's innocent in exactly the same way Daddy is.
    Except bob wasn't audited numerous times. Other than that you nailed it

    We only have Daddy's word that he was audited. His word ain't worth shit.
    Using your logic

    If only Obama didn't spend 8 years unleashing the IRS on political opponents

    He did. HTH

    Nobody with the profile and tax returns of Trump went 40 years without an audit

    Yet not one shred of evidence of ANY audit has been produced--and these audits have apparently lasted for decades. Jesus! No wonder you got taken for your $15K.
    How often are audits publicized by the IRS?

    You got him this time H
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,328
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    The IRS’s administrative manual lays out guidance for processing the tax returns of the president and vice president and says they are subject to “mandatory examinations” by the agency. The IRS isn’t legally bound to audit the returns but is supposed to. What we don’t know is if it’s ignoring that guidance, or probing the returns the sufficient amount.

    Neal pointed that out in his letter to IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig on Wednesday, explaining that one of the purposes of his request is to conduct oversight of “the extent to which the IRS audits and enforces the Federal tax laws against a President.”

    “The IRS has a policy of auditing the tax returns of all sitting presidents and vice-presidents, yet little is known about the effectiveness of the law,” Neal said in a statement about the request.

    It’s not clear whether Trump’s pre-presidential tax returns are being audited, and his claims that they are could be fake. But the 2017 and 2018 returns, if the IRS is following its own procedures, are supposed to be audited.


    If he was charged with a crime we would know it. You're talking out of your ass by claiming that the IRS hasn't announced an audit so it didn't happen

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,131
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie. Most of it is indefensible, so naturally, the usual suspects here are defending it.
    So Trump was convicted of tax evasion?
    No. He's innocent. Like OJ.
    I recall OJ being charged with a crime. Was Trump charged with a crime?
    You weren't charged with your felonies either, right blob?

    Pure as the driven snow!
    Wasn't charged, hell I was never even arrested. I'm an innocent man. I realize that that you'd love to be able to charge your political opponents with thought crimes and crimes you feel they've committed but for now we still have a Constitution and due process in this country comrade.
    Drug running isn't a thought crime.
    Now all you need is evidence that it ever happened
    You were more candid on the Shed.
    Too late

    CA Statute of Limitation on Drug Charges
    In California, possession of controlled substances is illegal under California Health and Safety Code § 11350. Most of these possession crimes are punished as a misdemeanor offense for most drugs, except marijuana (which has lighter punishments and changes drastically this coming January). This means that most of these drug possession crimes, such as cocaine possession or prescription drug crimes carry up to one year in jail, plus potential fines and court costs. Marijuana possession is currently punished with up to 6 months in jail for a large amount, and a fine only for a small amount. (The cutoff for a small amount is 28.5 grams.)

    In California, crimes that carry potential imprisonment as a penalty have a statute of limitations of 3 years. Under California Penal Code § 801, this means the prosecution of a crime must start within 3 years of the crime’s commission. This applies as long as you are within the state of California. If you leave the state, the statute of limitations is paused or “tolled” until you reenter the state. This can extend the filing deadline by up to 3 years, for a total of 6 years to bring charges against you.

    The statute of limitations only creates a deadline for police and prosecutors to file charges against you. This means that they have 3 years to arrest you and charge you with the crime, or to file charges with a court and issue a summons to force you to appear in court. This does not mean that the case must be charged, tried, and completed within 3 years of the offense.
    No one is suggesting blob can still be charged with any of his felonies. He's innocent in exactly the same way Daddy is.
    Except bob wasn't audited numerous times. Other than that you nailed it

    We only have Daddy's word that he was audited. His word ain't worth shit.
    Using your logic

    If only Obama didn't spend 8 years unleashing the IRS on political opponents

    He did. HTH

    Nobody with the profile and tax returns of Trump went 40 years without an audit

    Yet not one shred of evidence of ANY audit has been produced--and these audits have apparently lasted for decades. Jesus! No wonder you got taken for your $15K.
    How often are audits publicized by the IRS?

    You got him this time H
    Daddy doesn't have to rely on the IRS in order to prove he's been audited.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,834
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    So, in addition to being a shitty, unsuccessful lawyer who can't get his facts straight, #HHuskyIsRacist is also a full-fledged SJW who hates money and those who have it. I wonder if one has to do with the other. Woke=Broke.
    I'm gonna bet my wife and I pay a lot more in taxes than you and your cat do.
    The goal isn't to pay more taxes.

    The goal is to keep more money.

    #wrongscoringsystem
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,328
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie. Most of it is indefensible, so naturally, the usual suspects here are defending it.
    So Trump was convicted of tax evasion?
    No. He's innocent. Like OJ.
    I recall OJ being charged with a crime. Was Trump charged with a crime?
    You weren't charged with your felonies either, right blob?

    Pure as the driven snow!
    Wasn't charged, hell I was never even arrested. I'm an innocent man. I realize that that you'd love to be able to charge your political opponents with thought crimes and crimes you feel they've committed but for now we still have a Constitution and due process in this country comrade.
    Drug running isn't a thought crime.
    Now all you need is evidence that it ever happened
    You were more candid on the Shed.
    Too late

    CA Statute of Limitation on Drug Charges
    In California, possession of controlled substances is illegal under California Health and Safety Code § 11350. Most of these possession crimes are punished as a misdemeanor offense for most drugs, except marijuana (which has lighter punishments and changes drastically this coming January). This means that most of these drug possession crimes, such as cocaine possession or prescription drug crimes carry up to one year in jail, plus potential fines and court costs. Marijuana possession is currently punished with up to 6 months in jail for a large amount, and a fine only for a small amount. (The cutoff for a small amount is 28.5 grams.)

    In California, crimes that carry potential imprisonment as a penalty have a statute of limitations of 3 years. Under California Penal Code § 801, this means the prosecution of a crime must start within 3 years of the crime’s commission. This applies as long as you are within the state of California. If you leave the state, the statute of limitations is paused or “tolled” until you reenter the state. This can extend the filing deadline by up to 3 years, for a total of 6 years to bring charges against you.

    The statute of limitations only creates a deadline for police and prosecutors to file charges against you. This means that they have 3 years to arrest you and charge you with the crime, or to file charges with a court and issue a summons to force you to appear in court. This does not mean that the case must be charged, tried, and completed within 3 years of the offense.
    No one is suggesting blob can still be charged with any of his felonies. He's innocent in exactly the same way Daddy is.
    Except bob wasn't audited numerous times. Other than that you nailed it

    We only have Daddy's word that he was audited. His word ain't worth shit.
    Using your logic

    If only Obama didn't spend 8 years unleashing the IRS on political opponents

    He did. HTH

    Nobody with the profile and tax returns of Trump went 40 years without an audit

    Yet not one shred of evidence of ANY audit has been produced--and these audits have apparently lasted for decades. Jesus! No wonder you got taken for your $15K.
    How often are audits publicized by the IRS?

    You got him this time H
    Daddy doesn't have to rely on the IRS in order to prove he's been audited.
    And like Obama and his birth certificate he is under no obligation to end your little tin foil hat conspiracy until he wants to

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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,834
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie. Most of it is indefensible, so naturally, the usual suspects here are defending it.
    So Trump was convicted of tax evasion?
    No. He's innocent. Like OJ.
    I recall OJ being charged with a crime. Was Trump charged with a crime?
    You weren't charged with your felonies either, right blob?

    Pure as the driven snow!
    Wasn't charged, hell I was never even arrested. I'm an innocent man. I realize that that you'd love to be able to charge your political opponents with thought crimes and crimes you feel they've committed but for now we still have a Constitution and due process in this country comrade.
    Drug running isn't a thought crime.
    Now all you need is evidence that it ever happened
    You were more candid on the Shed.
    Too late

    CA Statute of Limitation on Drug Charges
    In California, possession of controlled substances is illegal under California Health and Safety Code § 11350. Most of these possession crimes are punished as a misdemeanor offense for most drugs, except marijuana (which has lighter punishments and changes drastically this coming January). This means that most of these drug possession crimes, such as cocaine possession or prescription drug crimes carry up to one year in jail, plus potential fines and court costs. Marijuana possession is currently punished with up to 6 months in jail for a large amount, and a fine only for a small amount. (The cutoff for a small amount is 28.5 grams.)

    In California, crimes that carry potential imprisonment as a penalty have a statute of limitations of 3 years. Under California Penal Code § 801, this means the prosecution of a crime must start within 3 years of the crime’s commission. This applies as long as you are within the state of California. If you leave the state, the statute of limitations is paused or “tolled” until you reenter the state. This can extend the filing deadline by up to 3 years, for a total of 6 years to bring charges against you.

    The statute of limitations only creates a deadline for police and prosecutors to file charges against you. This means that they have 3 years to arrest you and charge you with the crime, or to file charges with a court and issue a summons to force you to appear in court. This does not mean that the case must be charged, tried, and completed within 3 years of the offense.
    No one is suggesting blob can still be charged with any of his felonies. He's innocent in exactly the same way Daddy is.
    Put your best Vernon Adams maff hat on:

    Tax bill without professional advisors: $100K

    Bill for professional services: $25K
    Tax bill after professional advisor/planning = $50K
    Total outlay $75K

    $75K outlay < $100K outlay. Good.

    Got it?

    Probably not.




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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,131
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    So, in addition to being a shitty, unsuccessful lawyer who can't get his facts straight, #HHuskyIsRacist is also a full-fledged SJW who hates money and those who have it. I wonder if one has to do with the other. Woke=Broke.
    I'm gonna bet my wife and I pay a lot more in taxes than you and your cat do.
    The goal isn't to pay more taxes.

    The goal is to keep more money.

    #wrongscoringsystem
    Sometimes, when you do your taxes honestly, it's simply impossible not to pay a lot in taxes. We just make too much money. Sad!
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,131
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    HHusky said:

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    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie. Most of it is indefensible, so naturally, the usual suspects here are defending it.
    So Trump was convicted of tax evasion?
    No. He's innocent. Like OJ.
    I recall OJ being charged with a crime. Was Trump charged with a crime?
    You weren't charged with your felonies either, right blob?

    Pure as the driven snow!
    Wasn't charged, hell I was never even arrested. I'm an innocent man. I realize that that you'd love to be able to charge your political opponents with thought crimes and crimes you feel they've committed but for now we still have a Constitution and due process in this country comrade.
    Drug running isn't a thought crime.
    Now all you need is evidence that it ever happened
    You were more candid on the Shed.
    Too late

    CA Statute of Limitation on Drug Charges
    In California, possession of controlled substances is illegal under California Health and Safety Code § 11350. Most of these possession crimes are punished as a misdemeanor offense for most drugs, except marijuana (which has lighter punishments and changes drastically this coming January). This means that most of these drug possession crimes, such as cocaine possession or prescription drug crimes carry up to one year in jail, plus potential fines and court costs. Marijuana possession is currently punished with up to 6 months in jail for a large amount, and a fine only for a small amount. (The cutoff for a small amount is 28.5 grams.)

    In California, crimes that carry potential imprisonment as a penalty have a statute of limitations of 3 years. Under California Penal Code § 801, this means the prosecution of a crime must start within 3 years of the crime’s commission. This applies as long as you are within the state of California. If you leave the state, the statute of limitations is paused or “tolled” until you reenter the state. This can extend the filing deadline by up to 3 years, for a total of 6 years to bring charges against you.

    The statute of limitations only creates a deadline for police and prosecutors to file charges against you. This means that they have 3 years to arrest you and charge you with the crime, or to file charges with a court and issue a summons to force you to appear in court. This does not mean that the case must be charged, tried, and completed within 3 years of the offense.
    No one is suggesting blob can still be charged with any of his felonies. He's innocent in exactly the same way Daddy is.
    Except bob wasn't audited numerous times. Other than that you nailed it

    We only have Daddy's word that he was audited. His word ain't worth shit.
    Using your logic

    If only Obama didn't spend 8 years unleashing the IRS on political opponents

    He did. HTH

    Nobody with the profile and tax returns of Trump went 40 years without an audit

    Yet not one shred of evidence of ANY audit has been produced--and these audits have apparently lasted for decades. Jesus! No wonder you got taken for your $15K.
    How often are audits publicized by the IRS?

    You got him this time H
    Daddy doesn't have to rely on the IRS in order to prove he's been audited.
    And like Obama and his birth certificate he is under no obligation to end your little tin foil hat conspiracy until he wants to

    And yet his sister didn't want the "tin foil hat" matter looked into. I await the Trumps' libel suit against the NYT.
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    HHusky said:

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    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

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    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie. Most of it is indefensible, so naturally, the usual suspects here are defending it.
    So Trump was convicted of tax evasion?
    No. He's innocent. Like OJ.
    I recall OJ being charged with a crime. Was Trump charged with a crime?
    You weren't charged with your felonies either, right blob?

    Pure as the driven snow!
    Wasn't charged, hell I was never even arrested. I'm an innocent man. I realize that that you'd love to be able to charge your political opponents with thought crimes and crimes you feel they've committed but for now we still have a Constitution and due process in this country comrade.
    Drug running isn't a thought crime.
    Now all you need is evidence that it ever happened
    You were more candid on the Shed.
    Too late

    CA Statute of Limitation on Drug Charges
    In California, possession of controlled substances is illegal under California Health and Safety Code § 11350. Most of these possession crimes are punished as a misdemeanor offense for most drugs, except marijuana (which has lighter punishments and changes drastically this coming January). This means that most of these drug possession crimes, such as cocaine possession or prescription drug crimes carry up to one year in jail, plus potential fines and court costs. Marijuana possession is currently punished with up to 6 months in jail for a large amount, and a fine only for a small amount. (The cutoff for a small amount is 28.5 grams.)

    In California, crimes that carry potential imprisonment as a penalty have a statute of limitations of 3 years. Under California Penal Code § 801, this means the prosecution of a crime must start within 3 years of the crime’s commission. This applies as long as you are within the state of California. If you leave the state, the statute of limitations is paused or “tolled” until you reenter the state. This can extend the filing deadline by up to 3 years, for a total of 6 years to bring charges against you.

    The statute of limitations only creates a deadline for police and prosecutors to file charges against you. This means that they have 3 years to arrest you and charge you with the crime, or to file charges with a court and issue a summons to force you to appear in court. This does not mean that the case must be charged, tried, and completed within 3 years of the offense.
    No one is suggesting blob can still be charged with any of his felonies. He's innocent in exactly the same way Daddy is.
    Except bob wasn't audited numerous times. Other than that you nailed it

    We only have Daddy's word that he was audited. His word ain't worth shit.
    Using your logic

    If only Obama didn't spend 8 years unleashing the IRS on political opponents

    He did. HTH

    Nobody with the profile and tax returns of Trump went 40 years without an audit

    Yet not one shred of evidence of ANY audit has been produced--and these audits have apparently lasted for decades. Jesus! No wonder you got taken for your $15K.
    How often are audits publicized by the IRS?

    You got him this time H
    Daddy doesn't have to rely on the IRS in order to prove he's been audited.
    And like Obama and his birth certificate he is under no obligation to end your little tin foil hat conspiracy until he wants to

    And yet his sister didn't want the "tin foil hat" matter looked into. I await the Trumps' libel suit against the NYT.
    Your taxes are not the business of the New York Times

    Neither are Trumps

    So now privacy is proof of guilt

    JFC its a constitutional right isn't it?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,328
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    Did the NY Times go after the birth certificate?
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,131
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    Did the NY Times go after the birth certificate?

    No. They were busy with the fake moon landing.

    JFC
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    HHusky said:

    Did the NY Times go after the birth certificate?

    No. They were busy with the fake moon landing.

    JFC
    They knew it was fake before they looked?

    Just like you know Trump didn't get audited because the NY Times didn't get to look

    JFC indeed

    Try harder
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    USMChawk said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Using legal loopholes isn’t cheating it’s being smart. Maybe if the tax code wasn’t a bazillion pages long there wouldn’t be any loopholes. How about a flat 10% federal tax on any individual income over $30k ($50k for married couples), and 5% on all gross receipts for corporations, and call it a day. No deductions, no loopholes, no IRS, no personal tax accountant fees....just a flat tax.
    You clearly don't realize that the vast majority of the tax code is around determination of income, right? A flat tax changes a calculation in a computer. Nothing more.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie.
    Trump was charged with illegal tax evasion? Got a link?
    Is the lack of a charge how you minimize your drug felonies?
    Innocent until proven guilty in this country comrade.
    Funny from the dude who supports "lock her up" chants.
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie.
    Trump was charged with illegal tax evasion? Got a link?
    Is the lack of a charge how you minimize your drug felonies?
    Innocent until proven guilty in this country comrade.
    Funny from the dude who supports "lock her up" chants.
    Speaking of Kunt logic. I'm more than willing to give Hillary a trial
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,834
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Yeah. The "suspect" tax planning that most wealthy family businesses were using and that passed on audit.

    Most wealthy families buy 3+ million dollars of chips at their kid’s casino and walk off with them in a bag? Most wealthy families create a phony distribution company with jacked up prices to gift their kids some dough? Most wealthy families pay their three year olds six figure salaries?

    This was all audited, Gasbag? Got a link?

    Interesting. Sounds like most wealthy families should be in prison.
    Of course -you'd be fairly surprised at the lengths people go through to minimize their taxes.

    There's entire departments of very large accounting and legal firms whose sole purpose is to draw up diagrams and execution plans and various legal entities to take advantage of tax law, both domestically and internationally.

    Are you really this fucking walk.safety.up that you don't understand the real world?!? We're not talking W-2/1099 income and tax ramifications here. Christ.

    Even HondoFS gets this - I think he does anyway. His firm likely has a tax dodgermitigation expert.


    I don't believe I expressed any surprise that Daddy is a tax cheat.

    Basically, Purple helpfully explains that the wealthy cannot be expected to adhere to tax laws. The Leona Helmsley School of Accounting approves.

    Nice reading comprehension. Believe what you want. Rich people mitigate tax exposure. Deal with it.

    These rich people evaded gift taxes because they knew the odds of audit were very low. None of this survived an audit--Gasbag's lie--and none of it survived government scrutiny--Race's lie.
    Trump was charged with illegal tax evasion? Got a link?
    Is the lack of a charge how you minimize your drug felonies?
    Innocent until proven guilty in this country comrade.
    Funny from the dude who supports "lock her up" chants.
    Not sure The Throbber supports the chants.

    But the ultimate concept is solid.
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    At this point we just need a witch hunt official game thread
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