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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,947
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    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    Obama didn't ignore it.

    INF was important when it was signed, more for feel-good reasons than actual strategic reasons, but it was good to be talking and GRIT-ing with the Sovs. Back then they had conventional superiority in Europe, now NATO does. Back then the Chinese (and Indians and Pakis etc.) didn't have IRBM or GLCM capabilities; now they do. SLCMs and ALCMs were never part of the INF Treaty, so of course both they and we developed and deployed such systems (parties to arms treaties just about always want to rein in their opponents and leave themselves a free hand to get around the restrictions - see Washington Naval Teaty of 1922 and both SALT I and II). Plus, with the US' withdrawal from the ABM Treaty and subsequent developments in defensive systems, the Russians understandably want every option to overwhelm a defensive system; these treaties worked together, so when one goes, the others are more likely to unravel.

    INF restrictions just don't mean nearly as much now as it used to, and like CFE, probably needed to go or at least be renegotiated.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    BearsWiin said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    Obama didn't ignore it.

    INF was important when it was signed, more for feel-good reasons than actual strategic reasons, but it was good to be talking and GRIT-ing with the Sovs. Back then they had conventional superiority in Europe, now NATO does. Back then the Chinese (and Indians and Pakis etc.) didn't have IRBM or GLCM capabilities; now they do. SLCMs and ALCMs were never part of the INF Treaty, so of course both they and we developed and deployed such systems (parties to arms treaties just about always want to rein in their opponents and leave themselves a free hand to get around the restrictions - see Washington Naval Teaty of 1922 and both SALT I and II). Plus, with the US' withdrawal from the ABM Treaty and subsequent developments in defensive systems, the Russians understandably want every option to overwhelm a defensive system; these treaties worked together, so when one goes, the others are more likely to unravel.

    INF restrictions just don't mean nearly as much now as it used to, and like CFE, probably needed to go or at least be renegotiated.
    Yes, yes. Obama didn't ignore the fact that the Russians were in violation of the Treaty he just didn't do anything in response to those violations. But he didn't "ignore" it.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
    Ok Bob. What exactly did Russia hack in the 16 election then?
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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,947
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    SFGbob said:

    BearsWiin said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    Obama didn't ignore it.

    INF was important when it was signed, more for feel-good reasons than actual strategic reasons, but it was good to be talking and GRIT-ing with the Sovs. Back then they had conventional superiority in Europe, now NATO does. Back then the Chinese (and Indians and Pakis etc.) didn't have IRBM or GLCM capabilities; now they do. SLCMs and ALCMs were never part of the INF Treaty, so of course both they and we developed and deployed such systems (parties to arms treaties just about always want to rein in their opponents and leave themselves a free hand to get around the restrictions - see Washington Naval Teaty of 1922 and both SALT I and II). Plus, with the US' withdrawal from the ABM Treaty and subsequent developments in defensive systems, the Russians understandably want every option to overwhelm a defensive system; these treaties worked together, so when one goes, the others are more likely to unravel.

    INF restrictions just don't mean nearly as much now as it used to, and like CFE, probably needed to go or at least be renegotiated.
    Yes, yes. Obama didn't ignore the fact that the Russians were in violation of the Treaty he just didn't do anything in response to those violations. But he didn't "ignore" it.
    State had many discussions with the Russians about their violation of INF. Of course we could have sanctioned the Russians over their violation, but the Obama Administration decided to prioritize making sure that the more important and timely New START wasn't threatened. You can disagree with their decisions; that's fair game. But saying that they ignored it is just HondoFS. The view is better when you take off your partisan blinders
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
    Ok Bob. What exactly did Russia hack in the 16 election then?
    Did Russian hacking change the vote totals Hondo? You claimed I said that Russia didn't hack anything. Why are you moving the goal post Kunt and where is the quote from me where I said that?
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    BearsWiin said:

    SFGbob said:

    BearsWiin said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    Obama didn't ignore it.

    INF was important when it was signed, more for feel-good reasons than actual strategic reasons, but it was good to be talking and GRIT-ing with the Sovs. Back then they had conventional superiority in Europe, now NATO does. Back then the Chinese (and Indians and Pakis etc.) didn't have IRBM or GLCM capabilities; now they do. SLCMs and ALCMs were never part of the INF Treaty, so of course both they and we developed and deployed such systems (parties to arms treaties just about always want to rein in their opponents and leave themselves a free hand to get around the restrictions - see Washington Naval Teaty of 1922 and both SALT I and II). Plus, with the US' withdrawal from the ABM Treaty and subsequent developments in defensive systems, the Russians understandably want every option to overwhelm a defensive system; these treaties worked together, so when one goes, the others are more likely to unravel.

    INF restrictions just don't mean nearly as much now as it used to, and like CFE, probably needed to go or at least be renegotiated.
    Yes, yes. Obama didn't ignore the fact that the Russians were in violation of the Treaty he just didn't do anything in response to those violations. But he didn't "ignore" it.
    State had many discussions with the Russians about their violation of INF. Of course we could have sanctioned the Russians over their violation, but the Obama Administration decided to prioritize making sure that the more important and timely New START wasn't threatened. You can disagree with their decisions; that's fair game. But saying that they ignored it is just HondoFS. The view is better when you take off your partisan blinders
    Great, he paid attention to it and did nothing. Uuuuuh, they had "discussions." How brave.
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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,947
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    SFGbob said:

    BearsWiin said:

    SFGbob said:

    BearsWiin said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    Obama didn't ignore it.

    INF was important when it was signed, more for feel-good reasons than actual strategic reasons, but it was good to be talking and GRIT-ing with the Sovs. Back then they had conventional superiority in Europe, now NATO does. Back then the Chinese (and Indians and Pakis etc.) didn't have IRBM or GLCM capabilities; now they do. SLCMs and ALCMs were never part of the INF Treaty, so of course both they and we developed and deployed such systems (parties to arms treaties just about always want to rein in their opponents and leave themselves a free hand to get around the restrictions - see Washington Naval Teaty of 1922 and both SALT I and II). Plus, with the US' withdrawal from the ABM Treaty and subsequent developments in defensive systems, the Russians understandably want every option to overwhelm a defensive system; these treaties worked together, so when one goes, the others are more likely to unravel.

    INF restrictions just don't mean nearly as much now as it used to, and like CFE, probably needed to go or at least be renegotiated.
    Yes, yes. Obama didn't ignore the fact that the Russians were in violation of the Treaty he just didn't do anything in response to those violations. But he didn't "ignore" it.
    State had many discussions with the Russians about their violation of INF. Of course we could have sanctioned the Russians over their violation, but the Obama Administration decided to prioritize making sure that the more important and timely New START wasn't threatened. You can disagree with their decisions; that's fair game. But saying that they ignored it is just HondoFS. The view is better when you take off your partisan blinders
    Great, he paid attention to it and did nothing. Uuuuuh, they had "discussions." How brave.
    Would you have risked torpedoing New START because the Russians were violating a 30-year-old treaty that both sides were already circumventing? Sometimes in diplomacy you have to weigh the relative importance of shit and choose what you think is the least shitty option when there are no good options
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
    Ok Bob. What exactly did Russia hack in the 16 election then?
    Did Russian hacking change the vote totals Hondo? You claimed I said that Russia didn't hack anything. Why are you moving the goal post Kunt and where is the quote from me where I said that?
    Why can't you just answer the question Bob?

    BTW bearswin is destroying you and making you look like an imbecile.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,005
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    Obama's foreign policy was apologize and kiss ass. Period. He gave away much through his inaction and pansy demeanor. He was a muslim sympathizer at best and a muslim at worst.


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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
    Ok Bob. What exactly did Russia hack in the 16 election then?
    Did Russian hacking change the vote totals Hondo? You claimed I said that Russia didn't hack anything. Why are you moving the goal post Kunt and where is the quote from me where I said that?
    Why can't you just answer the question Bob?

    BTW bearswin is destroying you and making you look like an imbecile.
    Why can't you just provide the quote from me that shows I lied Kunt? Obama ignored Russian hacking. I never claimed that Russia didn't hack anything. You fucking lied Hondo. Russian had been hacking us long before the 2016 election and Obama didn't do shit about it.

    You know what's funny Hondo, if you were asked to detail exactly how Bearswin, who doesn't destroy anything unless his wife tells him he can, is destroying me you wouldn't be able to do it.

    Russian has been in violation of this treaty since at least 2008 and Obama never did shit about it other than writing them a stern letter. Trump didn't trash this deal, the Russians did.
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
    Ok Bob. What exactly did Russia hack in the 16 election then?
    Did Russian hacking change the vote totals Hondo? You claimed I said that Russia didn't hack anything. Why are you moving the goal post Kunt and where is the quote from me where I said that?
    Why can't you just answer the question Bob?

    BTW bearswin is destroying you and making you look like an imbecile.

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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    Sledog said:

    Obama's foreign policy was apologize and kiss ass. Period. He gave away much through his inaction and pansy demeanor. He was a muslim sympathizer at best and a muslim at worst.


    Obama kissed Putin's ass for the first 6 years of his Presidency and only stopped doing so after Putin repeatedly humiliated him publicly.
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    pawz said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Obama's foreign policy was apologize and kiss ass. Period. He gave away much through his inaction and pansy demeanor. He was a muslim sympathizer at best and a muslim at worst.


    Obama kissed Putin's ass for the first 6 years of his Presidency and only stopped doing so after Putin repeatedly humiliated him publicly.
    I'm sure that hot mic had something to do with the humiliation.
    The Chinese and the Russians had no respect for Obama.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
    Ok Bob. What exactly did Russia hack in the 16 election then?
    Did Russian hacking change the vote totals Hondo? You claimed I said that Russia didn't hack anything. Why are you moving the goal post Kunt and where is the quote from me where I said that?
    Why can't you just answer the question Bob?

    BTW bearswin is destroying you and making you look like an imbecile.
    Why can't you just provide the quote from me that shows I lied Kunt? Obama ignored Russian hacking. I never claimed that Russia didn't hack anything. You fucking lied Hondo. Russian had been hacking us long before the 2016 election and Obama didn't do shit about it.

    You know what's funny Hondo, if you were asked to detail exactly how Bearswin, who doesn't destroy anything unless his wife tells him he can, is destroying me you wouldn't be able to do it.

    Russian has been in violation of this treaty since at least 2008 and Obama never did shit about it other than writing them a stern letter. Trump didn't trash this deal, the Russians did.
    El oh fucking El. Lil lyin Bob. Everything is liberals fault in Bob's mind. And Trump and conservatives are perfect. You totally don't change you tune on what happened based on the perspective you want to project.

    So again Bob. Line out in detail the Russian hacking during the election.
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    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
    Ok Bob. What exactly did Russia hack in the 16 election then?
    Did Russian hacking change the vote totals Hondo? You claimed I said that Russia didn't hack anything. Why are you moving the goal post Kunt and where is the quote from me where I said that?
    Why can't you just answer the question Bob?

    BTW bearswin is destroying you and making you look like an imbecile.
    Why can't you just provide the quote from me that shows I lied Kunt? Obama ignored Russian hacking. I never claimed that Russia didn't hack anything. You fucking lied Hondo. Russian had been hacking us long before the 2016 election and Obama didn't do shit about it.

    You know what's funny Hondo, if you were asked to detail exactly how Bearswin, who doesn't destroy anything unless his wife tells him he can, is destroying me you wouldn't be able to do it.

    Russian has been in violation of this treaty since at least 2008 and Obama never did shit about it other than writing them a stern letter. Trump didn't trash this deal, the Russians did.
    El oh fucking El. Lil lyin Bob. Everything is liberals fault in Bob's mind. And Trump and conservatives are perfect. You totally don't change you tune on what happened based on the perspective you want to project.

    So again Bob. Line out in detail the Russian hacking during the election.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck and Hondo's white flag.

    I never said anything about Russian hacking during the election Hondo. I said that Obama ignored Russian hacking. You then stuck your head up your ass and linked something I had posted earlier about the number of stupid Rat Party members who think that Russian hacking changed the vote totals in the 2016 election. And from that link, you stuck your head even further up your ass and and claimed I had said Russia never hacked anything.

    Now, as per usual, unable to honestly address anything I've actually said, you reel off a string of strawman ass fucks and Kunt gibberish.


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    They weren't violating the Treaty when they first signed it with Reagan. They are violating it now and have been in violation for many, many years. Obama ignored it, just like he ignored Russian hacking. There isn't much point in signing off on a treaty when only one side is living up to the restrictions set-forth in the treaty. Good to see you run interference for Putin. Btw, what happened to your lie that your complaint isn't about this one particular treaty? That bullshit sure didn't last long because now you are talking about this one particular treaty.

    last week Russia didn't hack anything. Now they did. Interesting.

    When did I ever say Russian didn't hack anything in the US you lying piece of crap? Not interesting, in fact boringly predictable that you come here and just lie.
    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60971/did-67-of-the-gop-think-that-pizzagate-was-real#latest


    Shocking the pathological liar, lies. Trolling me again with your fucking stupidity Hondo?
    Ok Bob. If Russia didn't hack to change vote totals. And you've been obsessive that Russia didn't hack the DNC and meet with Trump about it. What exactly did Russia hack for the election then that Obama should have stopped?
    Fuck you Hondo. Lying piece of shit.
    Bob hates being exposed as a liar.
    So it's a "lie" to say that Russian hacking didn't alter the vote totals in the 2016 election Hondo? The only liar as always Hondo is you. I didn't say the Russian never hacked anything in the US are your link doesn't support your claim that I did.
    Ok Bob. What exactly did Russia hack in the 16 election then?
    Did Russian hacking change the vote totals Hondo? You claimed I said that Russia didn't hack anything. Why are you moving the goal post Kunt and where is the quote from me where I said that?
    Why can't you just answer the question Bob?

    BTW bearswin is destroying you and making you look like an imbecile.
    Why can't you just provide the quote from me that shows I lied Kunt? Obama ignored Russian hacking. I never claimed that Russia didn't hack anything. You fucking lied Hondo. Russian had been hacking us long before the 2016 election and Obama didn't do shit about it.

    You know what's funny Hondo, if you were asked to detail exactly how Bearswin, who doesn't destroy anything unless his wife tells him he can, is destroying me you wouldn't be able to do it.

    Russian has been in violation of this treaty since at least 2008 and Obama never did shit about it other than writing them a stern letter. Trump didn't trash this deal, the Russians did.
    El oh fucking El. Lil lyin Bob. Everything is liberals fault in Bob's mind. And Trump and conservatives are perfect. You totally don't change you tune on what happened based on the perspective you want to project.

    So again Bob. Line out in detail the Russian hacking during the election.
    And there's the strawman ass fuck and Hondo's white flag.

    I never said anything about Russian hacking during the election Hondo. I said that Obama ignored Russian hacking. You then stuck your head up your ass and linked something I had posted earlier about the number of stupid Rat Party members who think that Russian hacking changed the vote totals in the 2016 election. And from that link, you stuck your head even further up your ass and and claimed I had said Russia never hacked anything.

    Now, as per usual, unable to honestly address anything I've actually said, you reel off a string of strawman ass fucks and Kunt gibberish.


    Why do you care so much about others fucking straw man ass when you have been shown to do it repeatedly. What a fucking hypocrite
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