Rewatching the Ohio State vs Oregon Natty from the 2014 season
Urban Meyer at USC is a chilling prospect.
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It is. Remember though that Urban is usually only elite for about four years. After that, cracks begin to show and the cysts on his brain kick in and he really begins to miss his wife again and his teams stop playing for natties and settle into the New Years six bowel doldrums. USC doesn't have the depth of talent that Ohio State and Florida did when he took over. Urbans first class would be good, top 10-15 but not elite. His second would probably be number one in the country. That class would be sophomores in the 2022 season. We will have Huard, McMillan, Davis, maybe Puka, Redman, a large and nasty O-line on offense and a defense led by JTT, Sirmon, Hammer and a bevy of Lake recruited DB's (I know I'm missing some key kids everywhere) to combat that USC class and Urban still giving 110%. We would have them in quality depth and they might have us in top end talent. Maybe. It would be epic to watch and just might save west coast football. The winner of the P12 title game (annual UW v USC game) would be a tough out in the semi-final every year and the loser would probably rape some poor team in the Rose or Fiesta bowels.
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Hardcore Husky called it firstGladstone said:Because I am a huge loser and watch old CFB games on airplanes. We all remember Ohio State assblasting Oregon, but I forgot that Oregon was +4 in turnover margin and still got raped. That is astounding.
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Had Oregon converted that 4th down early and taken a 14-0 lead, It could have been interesting. But yeah, it was an Ezekiel Elliott mashing for sure.
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The game was over when it was 7-0 and Ohio State had a 3rd and long (11 or 12?) from inside their own 5. Pellum rushed 3, Cardale had 10 seconds to throw, picked up the first down (rather easily?) and it was quickly 7-7. That was the game.greenblood said:Had Oregon converted that 4th down early and taken a 14-0 lead, It could have been interesting. But yeah, it was an Ezekiel Elliott mashing for sure.
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1:17 softest shit I've ever seen. Should have left the stadium then.ntxduck said:
The game was over when it was 7-0 and Ohio State had a 3rd and long (11 or 12?) from inside their own 5. Pellum rushed 3, Cardale had 10 seconds to throw, picked up the first down (rather easily?) and it was quickly 7-7. That was the game.greenblood said:Had Oregon converted that 4th down early and taken a 14-0 lead, It could have been interesting. But yeah, it was an Ezekiel Elliott mashing for sure.
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Would having Pharaoh Brown/Devon Allen/Darren Carrington/Ifo Ekpre-Olomu have helped? It doesn't matter, because truly elite teams go three deep at every position. A fucking third string QB won a national championship. -
That drop was the last time I went all DDY over a TV set in anger. But at the same time, that's still four-star receiver Dwayne Stanford making the drop.RatherBeBrewing said:
Would having Pharaoh Brown/Devon Allen/Darren Carrington/Ifo Ekpre-Olomu have helped? It doesn't matter, because truly elite teams go three deep at every position. A fucking third string QB won a national championship.
At the end of the day, Michael Thomas, Zeke Elliott and Joey Bosa were on the field for Ohio State and they're all generational NFL guys in addition to the guys who are merely starters and reserves in the league. DeFo made a Pro-Bowl off that Oregon squad. Mariota is a better NFL quarterback than people give him credit for, but he isn't Chris Miller yet much less elite. Armstead has been a serviceable starter. So has Troy Hill. Maybe Freeman gets there. Maybe Ifo would've if it weren't for his knee or Carrington would've if he weren't bat shit crazy. But that's still a giant talent deficit.
As for Urban coming to USC, second acts never go as well as you expect them to. Maybe Urban is the exception to the rule. But ask Chip Kelly in Westwood how much fun it is. -
This would be Urban’s third act, it would make him the first coach in history to win a title at three schools. And it would probably cement him in the top five all time.
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It would if he does. But it's also tougher than yore making it out to come back from "Refirement." You don't go out the way Urbs did at Ohio State and bounce back in one piece.Gladstone said:This would be Urban’s third act, it would make him the first coach in history to win a title at three schools. And it would probably cement him in the top five all time.
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Except he did the same thing when he left Florida. Arguably worse.
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He wasn't essentially fired from Florida. He also was pushing 50 when he went to Ohio State as opposed to pushing 60. Could he bounce back? Sure. But getting the smell of Zach Smith off of him is going to be tough.
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Yeah he’s older now true enough. The record for most arrests during a 4 year span is still his from Florida, and there were all sorts of nefarious rumors about him not unlike the Zach Smith thing.
My hope is USC, after going through its litany of recent scandals, doesn’t have the stones to hire someone with Urban’s baggage. -
No one cares about Zach SmithIPukeOregonGrellow said:He wasn't essentially fired from Florida. He also was pushing 50 when he went to Ohio State as opposed to pushing 60. Could he bounce back? Sure. But getting the smell of Zach Smith off of him is going to be tough.
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You sure? LA times ain't no Columbus or Gainesville fish wrapper.RaceBannon said:
No one cares about Zach SmithIPukeOregonGrellow said:He wasn't essentially fired from Florida. He also was pushing 50 when he went to Ohio State as opposed to pushing 60. Could he bounce back? Sure. But getting the smell of Zach Smith off of him is going to be tough.
Hope this helps
Urban would be there this year if he wanted to -
I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second -
I'd take him over Peterman. Urbs is elite and isn't afraid to win big games.RaceBannon said:I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second -
Pete isn’t in the Urbs/Dabo/Saban tier. But if he wins a NT at Washington then he is.creepycoug said:
I'd take him over Peterman. Urbs is elite and isn't afraid to win big games.RaceBannon said:I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second -
It would take a few. Urbs is all kinds of better than Pete. He beats er'buddy. Dude has done it at every stop, in different ways.YellowSnow said:
Pete isn’t in the Urbs/Dabo/Saban tier. But if he wins a NT at Washington then he is.creepycoug said:
I'd take him over Peterman. Urbs is elite and isn't afraid to win big games.RaceBannon said:I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second -
truly halfbrains this bored is if they think usc would be competent enough to hire urbs. usc would first have to hire a competent athletic director, of which, i have no doubt keyshawn johnson or lendale white will be named the next trooj AD, whom will fire helton, and end up hiring jeff fisher or jack del rio.
"in the end, we wanted to stay within the USC family and loved coach's consistency in the NFL."
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Hey. Who the fuck are you to question the ways of Troy? These people fucking own West coast football and it's not close. Ok? Check the record books.rodmansrage said:truly halfbrains this bored is if they think usc would be competent enough to hire urbs. usc would first have to hire a competent athletic director, of which, i have no doubt keyshawn johnson or lendale white will be named the next trooj AD, whom will fire helton, and end up hiring jeff fisher or jack del rio.
"in the end, we wanted to stay within the USC family and loved coach's consistency in the NFL."
christ.
If they want to stay in the SC family, then that's what they do and they know better than you how to win. They're fucking winners down there.
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Pete's BSU resume matches was Urbs did at Utah. Pete winning a NT at a program like Washington would trump what Urban did at Florida, which was only a decade removed from winning a natty when Urbs arrived.creepycoug said:
It would take a few. Urbs is all kinds of better than Pete. He beats er'buddy. Dude has done it at every stop, in different ways.YellowSnow said:
Pete isn’t in the Urbs/Dabo/Saban tier. But if he wins a NT at Washington then he is.creepycoug said:
I'd take him over Peterman. Urbs is elite and isn't afraid to win big games.RaceBannon said:I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second -
I'd argue it's his 4th act. He went undefeated at Utah and won a BCS bowl their too. There is way more proof Urban would do well at SC than fail.Gladstone said:This would be Urban’s third act, it would make him the first coach in history to win a title at three schools. And it would probably cement him in the top five all time.
Chip at UCLA is a bad comparison because he was ahead of his time at Oregon and hasn't proven he can adapt to stay ahead. Though I still think he'll be fine. -
Eh, that's a lot of rough estimation for my book if I'm looking to hire a coach, which is quite a commitment.YellowSnow said:
Pete's BSU resume matches was Urbs did at Utah. Pete winning a NT at a program like Washington would trump what Urban did at Florida, which was only a decade removed from winning a natty when Urbs arrived.creepycoug said:
It would take a few. Urbs is all kinds of better than Pete. He beats er'buddy. Dude has done it at every stop, in different ways.YellowSnow said:
Pete isn’t in the Urbs/Dabo/Saban tier. But if he wins a NT at Washington then he is.creepycoug said:
I'd take him over Peterman. Urbs is elite and isn't afraid to win big games.RaceBannon said:I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second
When he beat Ohio State for the first title, Ohio State was the better team coming in with a better resume as wire to wire #1. Urbs flat outcoached a good coach in Jim Tressel and beat a better team for all the marbles.
He punched Saban and Bamers in the mouth and kicked them in the balls!
He punched Bob Stoops in the mouth and kicked him in the balls when he still had it going on at Oklahoma.
Yeah, he was at Florida, but in a better conference.
No. Sliding through this shit show of a conference and winning one title wouldn't get Pete to where Urbs is. Closer, but not equal. Building teams that go toe to toe with elite opponents in the title game multiple times and at multiple schools is the marker to watch.
We don't handicap these things for the pac 12 Yella!!!
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Urban won at Bowling Green
People forget that
Ohio States was tuffer than Florida because what's his face could recruit and left it loaded. Then made the Rose Bowl at fucking Illinois -
creep, this poast really gave me some perspective, had to take a long walk.creepycoug said:
Hey. Who the fuck are you to question the ways of Troy? These people fucking own West coast football and it's not close. Ok? Check the record books.
If they want to stay in the SC family, then that's what they do and they know better than you how to win. They're fucking winners down there.
SC people are just better at life. Don't hate. Contemplate.
i could edit/delete my original post but damn, i want people to learn from it. what should those people learn from it? people in troy KNOW WHAT THEYRE DOING.
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You just love Urbs because he wins the WRONG WAY!!creepycoug said:
Eh, that's a lot of rough estimation for my book if I'm looking to hire a coach, which is quite a commitment.YellowSnow said:
Pete's BSU resume matches was Urbs did at Utah. Pete winning a NT at a program like Washington would trump what Urban did at Florida, which was only a decade removed from winning a natty when Urbs arrived.creepycoug said:
It would take a few. Urbs is all kinds of better than Pete. He beats er'buddy. Dude has done it at every stop, in different ways.YellowSnow said:
Pete isn’t in the Urbs/Dabo/Saban tier. But if he wins a NT at Washington then he is.creepycoug said:
I'd take him over Peterman. Urbs is elite and isn't afraid to win big games.RaceBannon said:I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second
When he beat Ohio State for the first title, Ohio State was the better team coming in with a better resume as wire to wire #1. Urbs flat outcoached a good coach in Jim Tressel and beat a better team for all the marbles.
He punched Saban and Bamers in the mouth and kicked them in the balls!
He punched Bob Stoops in the mouth and kicked him in the balls when he still had it going on at Oklahoma.
Yeah, he was at Florida, but in a better conference.
No. Sliding through this shit show of a conference and winning one title wouldn't get Pete to where Urbs is. Closer, but not equal. Building teams that go toe to toe with elite opponents in the title game multiple times and at multiple schools is the marker to watch.
We don't handicap these things for the pac 12 Yella!!!
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Ok. Just don't let it happen again. Ever.rodmansrage said:
creep, this poast really gave me some perspective, had to take a long walk.creepycoug said:
Hey. Who the fuck are you to question the ways of Troy? These people fucking own West coast football and it's not close. Ok? Check the record books.
If they want to stay in the SC family, then that's what they do and they know better than you how to win. They're fucking winners down there.
SC people are just better at life. Don't hate. Contemplate.
i could edit/delete my original post but damn, i want people to learn from it. what should those people learn from it? people in troy KNOW WHAT THEYRE DOING.
thanks. -
Axe @RaceBannon about winning the right way.YellowSnow said:
You just love Urbs because he wins the WRONG WAY!!creepycoug said:
Eh, that's a lot of rough estimation for my book if I'm looking to hire a coach, which is quite a commitment.YellowSnow said:
Pete's BSU resume matches was Urbs did at Utah. Pete winning a NT at a program like Washington would trump what Urban did at Florida, which was only a decade removed from winning a natty when Urbs arrived.creepycoug said:
It would take a few. Urbs is all kinds of better than Pete. He beats er'buddy. Dude has done it at every stop, in different ways.YellowSnow said:
Pete isn’t in the Urbs/Dabo/Saban tier. But if he wins a NT at Washington then he is.creepycoug said:
I'd take him over Peterman. Urbs is elite and isn't afraid to win big games.RaceBannon said:I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second
When he beat Ohio State for the first title, Ohio State was the better team coming in with a better resume as wire to wire #1. Urbs flat outcoached a good coach in Jim Tressel and beat a better team for all the marbles.
He punched Saban and Bamers in the mouth and kicked them in the balls!
He punched Bob Stoops in the mouth and kicked him in the balls when he still had it going on at Oklahoma.
Yeah, he was at Florida, but in a better conference.
No. Sliding through this shit show of a conference and winning one title wouldn't get Pete to where Urbs is. Closer, but not equal. Building teams that go toe to toe with elite opponents in the title game multiple times and at multiple schools is the marker to watch.
We don't handicap these things for the pac 12 Yella!!!
Doesn't really happen. -
Zook a Dook Dook Dook. Fucker could absolutely recruit, but couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.RaceBannon said:Urban won at Bowling Green
People forget that
Ohio States was tuffer than Florida because what's his face could recruit and left it loaded. Then made the Rose Bowl at fucking Illinois -
Yep. This ain't row boat after all.creepycoug said:
Axe @RaceBannon about winning the right way.YellowSnow said:
You just love Urbs because he wins the WRONG WAY!!creepycoug said:
Eh, that's a lot of rough estimation for my book if I'm looking to hire a coach, which is quite a commitment.YellowSnow said:
Pete's BSU resume matches was Urbs did at Utah. Pete winning a NT at a program like Washington would trump what Urban did at Florida, which was only a decade removed from winning a natty when Urbs arrived.creepycoug said:
It would take a few. Urbs is all kinds of better than Pete. He beats er'buddy. Dude has done it at every stop, in different ways.YellowSnow said:
Pete isn’t in the Urbs/Dabo/Saban tier. But if he wins a NT at Washington then he is.creepycoug said:
I'd take him over Peterman. Urbs is elite and isn't afraid to win big games.RaceBannon said:I meant Ohio State
Nobody reads newspapers anymore anyway
If we still had Sark I'd take him in a second
When he beat Ohio State for the first title, Ohio State was the better team coming in with a better resume as wire to wire #1. Urbs flat outcoached a good coach in Jim Tressel and beat a better team for all the marbles.
He punched Saban and Bamers in the mouth and kicked them in the balls!
He punched Bob Stoops in the mouth and kicked him in the balls when he still had it going on at Oklahoma.
Yeah, he was at Florida, but in a better conference.
No. Sliding through this shit show of a conference and winning one title wouldn't get Pete to where Urbs is. Closer, but not equal. Building teams that go toe to toe with elite opponents in the title game multiple times and at multiple schools is the marker to watch.
We don't handicap these things for the pac 12 Yella!!!
Doesn't really happen.
