Veterans walk out of meeting with AOC.
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Engaging HC on any level is a completely worthless exercise. He is a frustrated angry triggered tard with a micro penis. Just ignore him. Maybe he will go away.salemcoog said:
Once again you walk back and go with the "but their family and friends were happy to see them come home" rationale. Just take your L and move on kid as you are absolutely embarrassing yourself, your 2 dads and your generation by continuing your misinformed diatribe.HardlyClothed said:
The “vitriol” Vietnam vets faced returning home was mostly a fabrication developed decades later as demonstrated in this thread. Most people were happy to see their family and peers return alive. Jane Fonda still? Fuck you for falling for that revisionist bullshit and doing an actual disservice to vietnam vets by misrepresenting their experience.Baseman said:
I’m a Lib. Kennedy and LBJ shouldn’t have sent our boys to Nam. Many thanks and respect to those who served and defended my rights to be a Dem. Crawling around in a dank swamp in 100 heat and humidity dodging water snakes, mosquitos and the Cong was no joke.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Bingo, glad you can continue to show your colors and illustrate what the Left has to offer. I'm actually glad you are here in the Tug for that purpose.HardlyClothed said:
He’s almost certainly lying about his treatment by anti-war protestors at UW and is probably just another right-wing dipshit, like his kid, who fabricated those details for the sake of hippie-punching.UW_Doog_Bot said:Hi there dumbfucks,
My dad was drafted into Vietnam, served in the special forces in some of the worst shit you can imagine, and then went to UW and was a lot more than spit on by anti-war protesters. To this fucking day, he is reluctant to tell people he doesn't know of his veteran status because of the stigma that surrounded being a Vietnam veteran in that era.
I have no doubt you'll dismiss or rationalize this to fit your worldview. Sincerely, go fuck yourselves.
So Fuck off Hardly Clothed. The vitriol our Nam vets got returning home was real and undeserved. Ask a real Nam vet what they think of Jane Fonda. That will tell you all you need to know. -
What liberal college are you employed at? Obviously the real world is unknown to you.HardlyClothed said:
Early 60’s. Some of first memories were following the war. Now what’s yours and everyone who claims to know how vietnam vets were treated when they returned from the war?PurpleThrobber said:
Answer the question - what is your birth year?HardlyClothed said:
The “vitriol” Vietnam vets faced returning home was mostly a fabrication developed decades later as demonstrated in this thread. Most people were happy to see their family and peers return alive. Jane Fonda still? Fuck you for falling for that revisionist bullshit and doing an actual disservice to vietnam vets by misrepresenting their experience.Baseman said:
I’m a Lib. Kennedy and LBJ shouldn’t have sent our boys to Nam. Many thanks and respect to those who served and defended my rights to be a Dem. Crawling around in a dank swamp in 100 heat and humidity dodging water snakes, mosquitos and the Cong was no joke.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Bingo, glad you can continue to show your colors and illustrate what the Left has to offer. I'm actually glad you are here in the Tug for that purpose.HardlyClothed said:
He’s almost certainly lying about his treatment by anti-war protestors at UW and is probably just another right-wing dipshit, like his kid, who fabricated those details for the sake of hippie-punching.UW_Doog_Bot said:Hi there dumbfucks,
My dad was drafted into Vietnam, served in the special forces in some of the worst shit you can imagine, and then went to UW and was a lot more than spit on by anti-war protesters. To this fucking day, he is reluctant to tell people he doesn't know of his veteran status because of the stigma that surrounded being a Vietnam veteran in that era.
I have no doubt you'll dismiss or rationalize this to fit your worldview. Sincerely, go fuck yourselves.
So Fuck off Hardly Clothed. The vitriol our Nam vets got returning home was real and undeserved. Ask a real Nam vet what they think of Jane Fonda. That will tell you all you need to know. -
Hey moron here’s my first post on the spitting in this thread:TurdBomber said:
Extreme Pivot Point, right here.HardlyClothed said:
The mistreatment Vietnam faced was’t not being thanked enough. It was a lack of services provided by veterans orgs and the government to deal with the horrific physical and mental damage caused by the war. The infrastructure of which is now better but not a whole lot.USMChawk said:
Ok, I’m going to type this slowly so you can get it. There is a narrative that returning Vietnam vets were spit on and harassed by angry hippies. HardlyClothed is saying it didn’t happen and we? are saying it did. This is the entire tangent of spitting on veterans.2001400ex said:
Listen here shitdick. Look at the post I was responding to. And yes many people in this thread commented on how vets are treated.USMChawk said:
No one’s saying that Vietnam veterans were getting spit on from 1996-2019, they’re saying they got spit on in the 70’s. Are you really this obtuse? Don’t answer, it was rhetorical.2001400ex said:
My father in law wears his Vietnam vet hat often. In the 23 years I've known him. There's easily over 100 times I've seen someone thank him for his service. Not once has anyone ever been rude to him in any way. This is in Seattle, Montana, Spokane, southern California, and Phoenix over the years.UW_Doog_Bot said:Hi there dumbfucks,
My dad was drafted into Vietnam, served in the special forces in some of the worst shit you can imagine, and then went to UW and was a lot more than spit on by anti-war protesters. To this fucking day, he is reluctant to tell people he doesn't know of his veteran status because of the stigma that surrounded being a Vietnam veteran in that era.
I have no doubt you'll dismiss or rationalize this to fit your worldview. Sincerely, go fuck yourselves.
From personal experience I can tell you that America learned a lesson from how they treated the Vietnam vets and the pendulum swung the other way. When I returned from Desert Storm, Iraq, and Afghanistan I was repeatedly thanked, to the point of uncomfortable embarrassment. Although, I was single during Desert Storm and the ladies showed their gratitude in Throbber approved ways (make sure you thank your mom for me). So it’s not surprising that you haven’t witnessed your FIL get harassed during this timeframe because it’s different now*.
*edited to add: although spitting on veterans still happens, I suspect it has more to do with politics than anti-troop sentiment.
HC realizes he's lost the argument and now seeks to hide his embarrassment by pretending he's not a weasel.
Fuck Off.
“Returning Vietnam vets getting spit on by lefties is an urban legend meant to shift the blame from the older veterans and vet organizations that let them down.”
I haven’t deviated from the only mistreatment they really faced was from vets of previous wars and the government’s inability to provide adequate services. Idiot. -
SFGbob said:
The Vietnam vets that threw away their medals and marched to end that nightmare are good people.
How about the ones like John Kerry who threw away someone else's medals but pretended he was throwing away his until the tide changed and it became advantageous for him to run on his war hero status and then he proudly displayed his medals? Good person?
How about the guys who were complete frauds and who were never even in Vietnam but talked about the atrocities they'd seen and participated in? Good people?
Kerry is fine in my book for going in front of congress and asking who will be the last to die for a mistake. Took more balls than you have to do that. Poltician John Kerry isn’t as good as that version however. -
Ok? That did happen. I won’t disown the antiwar left because fringes carried out bombings that only damaged property. How about the national guard murdering four college students. You seem to have thrown yourself in with that lot.RaceBannon said:
PussyHardlyClothed said:
The antiwar left did a lot of great things during the war to build public pressure help bring it to its eventual conclusion. And lefties should happily own that. They didn’t spit on returning vets however, and they didn’t “lost the war at home” either. That’s revisionist bullshit.RaceBannon said:
I did see all the revisionist historyGDS said:
Do a google image search on this and you see endless links talking about how the Nixon administration used the false narrative of anti-war protesters spitting on returning vets to try and stamp out dissent for the war. Thanks for your posts HCRaceBannon said:
Case closed
That's the problem with the left. They are a bunch of pussies who refuse to live up or take credit for their own actions
Also saw a lot of Hanoi Jane in the google search. I suppose that is a myth too
Own it pussies. It happened.
How about blowing up buildings on campus?
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He wasn't a politician when he tossed away someone else's Medals. Nice dodge.HardlyClothed said:SFGbob said:The Vietnam vets that threw away their medals and marched to end that nightmare are good people.
How about the ones like John Kerry who threw away someone else's medals but pretended he was throwing away his until the tide changed and it became advantageous for him to run on his war hero status and then he proudly displayed his medals? Good person?
How about the guys who were complete frauds and who were never even in Vietnam but talked about the atrocities they'd seen and participated in? Good people?
Kerry is fine in my book for going in front of congress and asking who will be the last to die for a mistake. Took more balls than you have to do that. Poltician John Kerry isn’t as good as that version however. -
I’m not familiar with this claim and don’t really care. Got a link? Or is this the swift boat bullshit that Kerry didn’t really earn his medals in Vietnam? Wouldn’t be surprising coming from a Bushie hog like you.SFGbob said:
He wasn't a politician when he tossed away someone else's Medals. Nice dodge.HardlyClothed said:SFGbob said:The Vietnam vets that threw away their medals and marched to end that nightmare are good people.
How about the ones like John Kerry who threw away someone else's medals but pretended he was throwing away his until the tide changed and it became advantageous for him to run on his war hero status and then he proudly displayed his medals? Good person?
How about the guys who were complete frauds and who were never even in Vietnam but talked about the atrocities they'd seen and participated in? Good people?
Kerry is fine in my book for going in front of congress and asking who will be the last to die for a mistake. Took more balls than you have to do that. Poltician John Kerry isn’t as good as that version however. -
Translation: I'm an ignorant Kunt who loves to run my mouth.HardlyClothed said:
I’m not familiar with this claim and don’t really care. Got a link? Or is this the swift boat bullshit that Kerry didn’t really earn his medals in Vietnam? Wouldn’t be surprising coming from a Bushie hog like you.SFGbob said:
He wasn't a politician when he tossed away someone else's Medals. Nice dodge.HardlyClothed said:SFGbob said:The Vietnam vets that threw away their medals and marched to end that nightmare are good people.
How about the ones like John Kerry who threw away someone else's medals but pretended he was throwing away his until the tide changed and it became advantageous for him to run on his war hero status and then he proudly displayed his medals? Good person?
How about the guys who were complete frauds and who were never even in Vietnam but talked about the atrocities they'd seen and participated in? Good people?
Kerry is fine in my book for going in front of congress and asking who will be the last to die for a mistake. Took more balls than you have to do that. Poltician John Kerry isn’t as good as that version however.
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So I looked it up and in ‘04 the judicial watch nutjobs found that Kerry had only thrown away his ribbons instead of his medals, which he had claimed. And that he threw away other people’s medals who couldn’t attend the protest. Presumably they asked him to do so. So it was a bullshit Bushie claim.SFGbob said:
Translation: I'm an ignorant Kunt who loves to run my mouth.HardlyClothed said:
I’m not familiar with this claim and don’t really care. Got a link? Or is this the swift boat bullshit that Kerry didn’t really earn his medals in Vietnam? Wouldn’t be surprising coming from a Bushie hog like you.SFGbob said:
He wasn't a politician when he tossed away someone else's Medals. Nice dodge.HardlyClothed said:SFGbob said:The Vietnam vets that threw away their medals and marched to end that nightmare are good people.
How about the ones like John Kerry who threw away someone else's medals but pretended he was throwing away his until the tide changed and it became advantageous for him to run on his war hero status and then he proudly displayed his medals? Good person?
How about the guys who were complete frauds and who were never even in Vietnam but talked about the atrocities they'd seen and participated in? Good people?
Kerry is fine in my book for going in front of congress and asking who will be the last to die for a mistake. Took more balls than you have to do that. Poltician John Kerry isn’t as good as that version however.
What’s the point of your weird ranting about Kerry exactly? I said the vets that threw away their medals were heroes and never mentioned Kerry. His testimony to congress was great however. Bob’s mind is a palace of strange resentments. -
The entire point of that protest was a rejection of the symbols of heroism and service that the Military had bestowed on them by tossing away your medals. Tossing away someone else's medals while making people think that you were tossing away your own medals is pure bullshit. And how John Kerry of Mr. I voted for it before I voted against it to try and have it both ways. He tossed away his "ribbons" but kept the medals.HardlyClothed said:
So I looked it up and in ‘04 the judicial watch nutjobs found that Kerry had only thrown away his ribbons instead of his medals, which he had claimed. And that he threw away other people’s medals who couldn’t attend the protest. Presumably they asked him to do so. So it was a bullshit Bushie claim.SFGbob said:
Translation: I'm an ignorant Kunt who loves to run my mouth.HardlyClothed said:
I’m not familiar with this claim and don’t really care. Got a link? Or is this the swift boat bullshit that Kerry didn’t really earn his medals in Vietnam? Wouldn’t be surprising coming from a Bushie hog like you.SFGbob said:
He wasn't a politician when he tossed away someone else's Medals. Nice dodge.HardlyClothed said:SFGbob said:The Vietnam vets that threw away their medals and marched to end that nightmare are good people.
How about the ones like John Kerry who threw away someone else's medals but pretended he was throwing away his until the tide changed and it became advantageous for him to run on his war hero status and then he proudly displayed his medals? Good person?
How about the guys who were complete frauds and who were never even in Vietnam but talked about the atrocities they'd seen and participated in? Good people?
Kerry is fine in my book for going in front of congress and asking who will be the last to die for a mistake. Took more balls than you have to do that. Poltician John Kerry isn’t as good as that version however.
What’s the point of your weird ranting about Kerry exactly? I said the vets that threw away their medals were heroes and never mentioned Kerry. His testimony to congress was great however. Bob’s mind is a palace of strange resentments.
I noticed you said nothing about the "good people" who were never even in Vietnam but claimed they'd witnessed atrocities there.
