Sirmon Yankoff Couch Sale
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I’m still curious as to where this “Pete’s enamored with Morris” shit is coming from?
Everything we heard during the recruiting cycle was that the coaches regretted offering Morris as early as they did, and that they might have valued Huge Mellon’s kid higher by the end of the process. -
Sirmon barely threw at a 60% clip against fucking KingCo4A. And you're fucking surprised that he now sucks in college too?Doogles said:
When you see the guy six inches shorter than you skipping the ball off the turf and throwing pick after pick, but still he gets starter reps and is at worst the entrenched 2, it makes you wonder.GreenRiverGatorz said:
The only reason people are bemoaning losing Sirmon over Haener is because he's 6'5" and had more stars. Not one person has seen enough of Sirmon since he got here and given an actual reasoned take on why they think he's better than Haener. Because he's not.whlinder said:God Damn it. Expected to lose 1 of them this spring and was hoping it would be Haener, with Yankoff possibly switching positions. But if Yankoff wants to play QB I understand him transferring.
It is a MASSIVE failure of the staff to lose Sirmon instead of Haener. Incomprehensibly bad roster management.
And the "Petersen loves midgets" theory is fucking stupid too. He's the one who recruited Eason, Sirmon, and Yankoff in the first place. The real crisis here is that out of a huge and diverse QB room with tons of raw talent, we're still waiting for a guy to grab the reins and nobody has appeared to do so. If we can't find an above average starter out of everyone we had coming into this spring, then we're fucked. It either means consistent misses in talent evaluation, development, designing a digestible offense for a college player, or a combination of all three. But either way the end result is fucked.
I've seen Haener suck in live game action. He's had a terrible spring by all reports. How could you not feel slighted if you're Sirmon?
Christ, you dipshits want to make everything about Haener when the easy answer is right in front of you - Sirmon isn't that fucking good. -
GreenRiverGatorz said:
The only reason people are bemoaning losing Sirmon over Haener is because he's 6'5" and had more stars. Not one person has seen enough of Sirmon since he got here and given an actual reasoned take on why they think he's better than Haener. Because he's not.whlinder said:God Damn it. Expected to lose 1 of them this spring and was hoping it would be Haener, with Yankoff possibly switching positions. But if Yankoff wants to play QB I understand him transferring.
It is a MASSIVE failure of the staff to lose Sirmon instead of Haener. Incomprehensibly bad roster management.
And the "Petersen loves midgets" theory is fucking stupid too. He's the one who recruited Eason, Sirmon, and Yankoff in the first place. The real crisis here is that out of a huge and diverse QB room with tons of raw talent, we're still waiting for a guy to grab the reins and nobody has appeared to do so. If we can't find an above average starter out of everyone we had coming into this spring, then we're fucked. It either means consistent misses in talent evaluation, development, designing a digestible offense for a college player, or a combination of all three. But either way the end result is fucked.
If only there were some evidence that being a highly recruited, physically rare person were associated with increased performance on the field!!!!GreenRiverGatorz said:
The only reason people are bemoaning losing Sirmon over Haener is because he's 6'5" and had more stars. Not one person has seen enough of Sirmon since he got here and given an actual reasoned take on why they think he's better than Haener. Because he's not.whlinder said:God Damn it. Expected to lose 1 of them this spring and was hoping it would be Haener, with Yankoff possibly switching positions. But if Yankoff wants to play QB I understand him transferring.
It is a MASSIVE failure of the staff to lose Sirmon instead of Haener. Incomprehensibly bad roster management.
And the "Petersen loves midgets" theory is fucking stupid too. He's the one who recruited Eason, Sirmon, and Yankoff in the first place. The real crisis here is that out of a huge and diverse QB room with tons of raw talent, we're still waiting for a guy to grab the reins and nobody has appeared to do so. If we can't find an above average starter out of everyone we had coming into this spring, then we're fucked. It either means consistent misses in talent evaluation, development, designing a digestible offense for a college player, or a combination of all three. But either way the end result is fucked.
But you’re probably right. I trust the coaches!! -
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Peterman's at the conference meetings in Arizona right now. This is where the ADs and football coaches sit around for a week to vote on giving Larry Scott more money and more time. He probably got a tweet DM from Bush saying "uhh...we just lost a couple Qbs. Let me know what I should do when you have a minute."GrundleStiltzkin said:
No mention of PetersmenDoogCourics said:Keep in mind that Sirmon committed his sophomore year of high school. To change his mind, something was going on:
"He's very analytical," Sirmon's father David told Dawgman.com Monday night after news broke. "He watches his tape methodically and the rest of the team tape. He's in a situation where he's looking at what's on the field, but more, what's going on in the meeting rooms and the locker room and is this in his best welfare and is he in the best position to succeed? Not just in football, but in life?”
"These thoughts have been around, but you put them out of your mind all spring because you want to compete. That's what you want to do. And he did. But you can't live in a vacuum either. You have to look at your welfare and where am I and how am I? After spring, he made conclusive decisions."
Things were great after his redshirt freshman season. But every so often, he would revisit those questions, and the answers helped guide him to the decision he made Monday night.
From David's vantage point, the clues behind a possible change were visible, but stayed at a distance. He only went to one practice - Jacob's Mom Robyn went to two - but they would stay in contact on nearly a daily basis.
Jacob would recite the statistics back to his Dad from that day's practice. Sometimes there were days where Jacob's stats were great, with multiple touchdowns or minimal incompletions. David assumed Jacob would be excited about the progress being made, but Jacob wouldn't say much. He didn't want to dig into it. He continued to stay focused on the competition, but kept how he really felt about it to himself until after spring football was done.
"These are gut-wrenching decisions that he had to process. He has the utmost respect for the program and everyone in the facility. But you start to hear different things in his voice. You wonder, what's going on? Something was amiss."
Then the family went to dinner after Spring Football, and Jacob laid down the news: he wanted to explore the idea of a transfer.
"Things moved very quickly."
David and Robyn asked the basic parent questions.
"Man, you've put so much into this...so you listen to them. You listen and you want to help him manage these big decisions and encourage them. Don't let small things become big. He spoke eloquently and thoughtfully and with conviction. So it's like okay, we support you.
"It was a collection of things, like most major decisions. It wasn't one thing or this or that. He wants his college experience to be a positive one in his life."
Sirmon also dispelled any notion that there was coordination between Jacob and Colson in terms of the timing of their decisions. It was definitely more a matter of coincidence than anything.
"It's an interesting question, because those boys have become really good friends," said David. "Colson is a great kid. When they first showed up there was probably a little animosity because they were in the same class, but they really are good friends. They probably have different reasons, but also some shared reasons why they both entered."
"We've had no contact with anybody," said David. "He wanted to be all-in and then make a decision. This is a little scary for me. This is a hard thing. Things are changing. Jacob and Colson signed with the first class that had an early signing period. You signed into a situation earlier than normal. When your OC leaves right before you're about to sign, you don't really have a chance to go back on the market. After you sign, transfers move in. Okay. In the old days, that would have all been going down at the same time.”
"Being committed for so long to the University of Washington and not officially visiting anywhere else, or even unofficially visiting anywhere else...he had a lot of offers but he didn't have a lot of deep contacts. He was all in.”
Is there a chance Sirmon could circle back to Montlake if the options out there aren't appealing? The transfer portal is utilized to announce the intent to leave, but a player can also take their name out of the portal if circumstances change.
"I can't answer that for him," David said, confirming that he, Robyn and Jacob did speak with Hamdan for 'several' hours Monday before Jacob came to a final decision. "I'll say it this way; I didn't get the sense that (the option) was completely closed, but I also wasn't talking with the head coach." -
Good point. Highly ranked QBs have a very high success rate relative to other positions. It's pretty inconceivable that one of them could fail to live up to their high school hype.Dennis_DeYoung said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
The only reason people are bemoaning losing Sirmon over Haener is because he's 6'5" and had more stars. Not one person has seen enough of Sirmon since he got here and given an actual reasoned take on why they think he's better than Haener. Because he's not.whlinder said:God Damn it. Expected to lose 1 of them this spring and was hoping it would be Haener, with Yankoff possibly switching positions. But if Yankoff wants to play QB I understand him transferring.
It is a MASSIVE failure of the staff to lose Sirmon instead of Haener. Incomprehensibly bad roster management.
And the "Petersen loves midgets" theory is fucking stupid too. He's the one who recruited Eason, Sirmon, and Yankoff in the first place. The real crisis here is that out of a huge and diverse QB room with tons of raw talent, we're still waiting for a guy to grab the reins and nobody has appeared to do so. If we can't find an above average starter out of everyone we had coming into this spring, then we're fucked. It either means consistent misses in talent evaluation, development, designing a digestible offense for a college player, or a combination of all three. But either way the end result is fucked.
If only there were some evidence that being a highly recruited, physically rare person were associated with increased performance on the field!!!!GreenRiverGatorz said:
The only reason people are bemoaning losing Sirmon over Haener is because he's 6'5" and had more stars. Not one person has seen enough of Sirmon since he got here and given an actual reasoned take on why they think he's better than Haener. Because he's not.whlinder said:God Damn it. Expected to lose 1 of them this spring and was hoping it would be Haener, with Yankoff possibly switching positions. But if Yankoff wants to play QB I understand him transferring.
It is a MASSIVE failure of the staff to lose Sirmon instead of Haener. Incomprehensibly bad roster management.
And the "Petersen loves midgets" theory is fucking stupid too. He's the one who recruited Eason, Sirmon, and Yankoff in the first place. The real crisis here is that out of a huge and diverse QB room with tons of raw talent, we're still waiting for a guy to grab the reins and nobody has appeared to do so. If we can't find an above average starter out of everyone we had coming into this spring, then we're fucked. It either means consistent misses in talent evaluation, development, designing a digestible offense for a college player, or a combination of all three. But either way the end result is fucked.
But you’re probably right. I trust the coaches!!
Jesus Christ what a stupid fucking take. Sirmon sucks, learn to accept it. He's white, so I'm surprised you're having such a hard time writing him off. -
CWU lost its great starter last season. He was from Eastern and at one point started against the Ducks. So it's not unusual anyway.BennyBeaver said:Which one ends up at @ CWU? @ApostleofGrief
Which one ends up in Cornvalley? @Babushka -
Cyler Miles, Jeff Lindquist, Nick Montana, Troy Williams.Dennis_DeYoung said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
The only reason people are bemoaning losing Sirmon over Haener is because he's 6'5" and had more stars. Not one person has seen enough of Sirmon since he got here and given an actual reasoned take on why they think he's better than Haener. Because he's not.whlinder said:God Damn it. Expected to lose 1 of them this spring and was hoping it would be Haener, with Yankoff possibly switching positions. But if Yankoff wants to play QB I understand him transferring.
It is a MASSIVE failure of the staff to lose Sirmon instead of Haener. Incomprehensibly bad roster management.
And the "Petersen loves midgets" theory is fucking stupid too. He's the one who recruited Eason, Sirmon, and Yankoff in the first place. The real crisis here is that out of a huge and diverse QB room with tons of raw talent, we're still waiting for a guy to grab the reins and nobody has appeared to do so. If we can't find an above average starter out of everyone we had coming into this spring, then we're fucked. It either means consistent misses in talent evaluation, development, designing a digestible offense for a college player, or a combination of all three. But either way the end result is fucked.
If only there were some evidence that being a highly recruited, physically rare person were associated with increased performance on the field!!!!GreenRiverGatorz said:
The only reason people are bemoaning losing Sirmon over Haener is because he's 6'5" and had more stars. Not one person has seen enough of Sirmon since he got here and given an actual reasoned take on why they think he's better than Haener. Because he's not.whlinder said:God Damn it. Expected to lose 1 of them this spring and was hoping it would be Haener, with Yankoff possibly switching positions. But if Yankoff wants to play QB I understand him transferring.
It is a MASSIVE failure of the staff to lose Sirmon instead of Haener. Incomprehensibly bad roster management.
And the "Petersen loves midgets" theory is fucking stupid too. He's the one who recruited Eason, Sirmon, and Yankoff in the first place. The real crisis here is that out of a huge and diverse QB room with tons of raw talent, we're still waiting for a guy to grab the reins and nobody has appeared to do so. If we can't find an above average starter out of everyone we had coming into this spring, then we're fucked. It either means consistent misses in talent evaluation, development, designing a digestible offense for a college player, or a combination of all three. But either way the end result is fucked.
But you’re probably right. I trust the coaches!! -
A world might exist where we are better off without Chris Petersen.
Head coach Jimmy Lake? -
If you know a guy isn't it (Haener) then you need to go down the list. Sirmon might suck, probably does, but at least there is a chance he doesn't and rare tools to work with.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sirmon barely threw at a 60% clip against fucking KingCo4A. And you're fucking surprised that he now sucks in college too?Doogles said:
When you see the guy six inches shorter than you skipping the ball off the turf and throwing pick after pick, but still he gets starter reps and is at worst the entrenched 2, it makes you wonder.GreenRiverGatorz said:
The only reason people are bemoaning losing Sirmon over Haener is because he's 6'5" and had more stars. Not one person has seen enough of Sirmon since he got here and given an actual reasoned take on why they think he's better than Haener. Because he's not.whlinder said:God Damn it. Expected to lose 1 of them this spring and was hoping it would be Haener, with Yankoff possibly switching positions. But if Yankoff wants to play QB I understand him transferring.
It is a MASSIVE failure of the staff to lose Sirmon instead of Haener. Incomprehensibly bad roster management.
And the "Petersen loves midgets" theory is fucking stupid too. He's the one who recruited Eason, Sirmon, and Yankoff in the first place. The real crisis here is that out of a huge and diverse QB room with tons of raw talent, we're still waiting for a guy to grab the reins and nobody has appeared to do so. If we can't find an above average starter out of everyone we had coming into this spring, then we're fucked. It either means consistent misses in talent evaluation, development, designing a digestible offense for a college player, or a combination of all three. But either way the end result is fucked.
I've seen Haener suck in live game action. He's had a terrible spring by all reports. How could you not feel slighted if you're Sirmon?
Christ, you dipshits want to make everything about Haener when the easy answer is right in front of you - Sirmon isn't that fucking good.
