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"Illegal Immigrants and Crime – Assessing the Evidence"

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  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 3,535
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    This is the reason they are fighting putting immigration status on the census forms. They don't want us to know the damage they have done to our nation.

    No. They are afraid if you put that question on there, illegals won't respond. Idiot.
    Why do we want them to respond? A census is to count citizens
    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.
    Then its not a census
    Knock yourself out. File an amicus brief.
    TurdBufferMariotaTheGawd
  • SledogSledog Posts: 8,537
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    This is the reason they are fighting putting immigration status on the census forms. They don't want us to know the damage they have done to our nation.

    No. They are afraid if you put that question on there, illegals won't respond. Idiot.
    Why do we want them to respond? A census is to count citizens
    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.
    Judge shopping is always special.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 3,535
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    This is the reason they are fighting putting immigration status on the census forms. They don't want us to know the damage they have done to our nation.

    No. They are afraid if you put that question on there, illegals won't respond. Idiot.
    Why do we want them to respond? A census is to count citizens
    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.
    Judge shopping is always special.
    Good luck on the appeal. For now, the citizenship question is unconstitutional.
    SledogSoutherndawgTurdBuffer
  • SledogSledog Posts: 8,537
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    This is the reason they are fighting putting immigration status on the census forms. They don't want us to know the damage they have done to our nation.

    No. They are afraid if you put that question on there, illegals won't respond. Idiot.
    Why do we want them to respond? A census is to count citizens
    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.
    Judge shopping is always special.
    Good luck on the appeal. For now, the citizenship question is unconstitutional.
    Then how was in on the census from inception until the 60's?

    Oh yeah Commies have a different history.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 3,535
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    This is the reason they are fighting putting immigration status on the census forms. They don't want us to know the damage they have done to our nation.

    No. They are afraid if you put that question on there, illegals won't respond. Idiot.
    Why do we want them to respond? A census is to count citizens
    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.
    Judge shopping is always special.
    Good luck on the appeal. For now, the citizenship question is unconstitutional.
    Then how was in on the census from inception until the 60's?

    Oh yeah Commies have a different history.
    You should sign race’s amicus brief. It will make you feel better.
    SledogTurdBuffer
  • SledogSledog Posts: 8,537
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    This is the reason they are fighting putting immigration status on the census forms. They don't want us to know the damage they have done to our nation.

    No. They are afraid if you put that question on there, illegals won't respond. Idiot.
    Why do we want them to respond? A census is to count citizens
    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.
    Judge shopping is always special.
    Good luck on the appeal. For now, the citizenship question is unconstitutional.
    Then how was in on the census from inception until the 60's?

    Oh yeah Commies have a different history.
    You should sign race’s amicus brief. It will make you feel better.
    I see you answered the question.

    I think you need a new country. Mexico? Oh wait you already live there.
  • TurdBufferTurdBuffer Posts: 6,406
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    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.

    The Trial Court, in other words. BFD.

    With the 9th Circuit C of Apps being the most frequently reversed of all U.S. circuit courts, it's legal malpractice to rely on any decision from a California trial court withstanding the scrutiny of actual judges whom understand the law.

    California courts are the laughing stock of modern jurisprudence.

    Herein fail not at your peril.
    CirrhosisDawg
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 3,535
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    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.

    The Trial Court, in other words. BFD.

    With the 9th Circuit C of Apps being the most frequently reversed of all U.S. circuit courts, it's legal malpractice to rely on any decision from a California trial court withstanding the scrutiny of actual judges whom understand the law.

    California courts are the laughing stock of modern jurisprudence.

    Herein fail not at your peril.
    California trial court? Jfc, once again, you are an imbecile. The “US” in US district court should have been your first clue that this is not a California court. This was a federal court. I look forward to hearing your keen legal insights turd. Your innacuracy and general buffoonery is always amusing.
    TurdBuffer
  • TurdBufferTurdBuffer Posts: 6,406
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    edited March 14


    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.

    The Trial Court, in other words. BFD.

    With the 9th Circuit C of Apps being the most frequently reversed of all U.S. circuit courts, it's legal malpractice to rely on any decision from a California trial court withstanding the scrutiny of actual judges whom understand the law.

    California courts are the laughing stock of modern jurisprudence.

    Herein fail not at your peril.
    California trial court? Jfc, once again, you are an imbecile. The “US” in US district court should have been your first clue that this is not a California court. This was a federal court. I look forward to hearing your keen legal insights turd. Your innacuracy and general buffoonery is always amusing.
    Dozens of immigrant advocates are outside a federal courthouse in San Francisco in advance of a hearing where the Trump administration will try to persuade an appeals court to block state laws that protect immigrants.

    Some are holding signs that read "ICE out of California," referring to the agency that enforces immigration laws. There are more than 50 people.

    At issue before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is a 2018 lawsuit by the administration over three California laws that extended protections to people in the country illegally.

    A U.S. judge in Sacramento kept two of the laws in place in July but blocked part of a third.

    The White House says the laws obstruct federal immigration enforcement efforts.

    It's one of several lawsuits between the White House and the Democratic-dominated state.

    The Trump administration is asking a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit to entirely block all three laws. The panel will hear arguments but won't rule immediately.


    Last I checked, Sacramento and San Francisco were still in California, California is still a state in the U.S., and federal courts were both located within the state and had federal jurisdiction over federal matters within the state, which is located in the 9th Federal (meaning "U.S.") Circuit.

    I wouldn't want to detonate your feeble brain with an explanation of Original vs Pendant Jurisdiction, so I won't.
  • TurdBufferTurdBuffer Posts: 6,406
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    I wrote "Herein fail not at your peril" for a reason. Next time, catch a clue @LowIQCirrho.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 3,535
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    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.

    The Trial Court, in other words. BFD.

    With the 9th Circuit C of Apps being the most frequently reversed of all U.S. circuit courts, it's legal malpractice to rely on any decision from a California trial court withstanding the scrutiny of actual judges whom understand the law.

    California courts are the laughing stock of modern jurisprudence.

    Herein fail not at your peril.
    California trial court? Jfc, once again, you are an imbecile. The “US” in US district court should have been your first clue that this is not a California court. This was a federal court. I look forward to hearing your keen legal insights turd. Your innacuracy and general buffoonery is always amusing.
    Dozens of immigrant advocates are outside a federal courthouse in San Francisco in advance of a hearing where the Trump administration will try to persuade an appeals court to block state laws that protect immigrants.

    Some are holding signs that read "ICE out of California," referring to the agency that enforces immigration laws. There are more than 50 people.

    At issue before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is a 2018 lawsuit by the administration over three California laws that extended protections to people in the country illegally.

    A U.S. judge in Sacramento kept two of the laws in place in July but blocked part of a third.

    The White House says the laws obstruct federal immigration enforcement efforts.

    It's one of several lawsuits between the White House and the Democratic-dominated state.

    The Trump administration is asking a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit to entirely block all three laws. The panel will hear arguments but won't rule immediately.


    Last I checked, Sacramento and San Francisco were still in California, California is still a state in the U.S., and federal courts were both located within the state and had federal jurisdiction over federal matters within the state, which is located in the 9th Federal (meaning "U.S.") Circuit.

    I wouldn't want to detonate your feeble brain with an explanation of Original vs Pendant Jurisdiction, so I won't.
    JFC. Great point TurdbufferFS! Keep it up!
    TurdBuffer
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Posts: 11,870
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    What about the fact that at least half of them are committing identity fraud
    RaceBannonSledog
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 39,335
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    What about the fact that at least half of them are committing identity fraud

    Hondo supports that
    Sledog
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Posts: 3,535
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    What about the fact that at least half of them are committing identity fraud

    Didn’t you steal your sister’s absentee ballot?
    TurdBufferSledogPitchfork51
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Posts: 32,860
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    What about the fact that at least half of them are committing identity fraud

    Didn’t you steal your sister’s absentee ballot?
    I'm told voter fraud isn't a problem.
    CirrhosisDawgPitchfork51USMChawk
  • TurdBufferTurdBuffer Posts: 6,406
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    Once again, just like with sanctuary laws, a US district court slapped down trump on the census question finding it unconstitutional. Unlike with sanctuary laws, however, trump plans on appealing so there will be more to come. For the time being, however, there will not be a citizenship question in the census.

    The Trial Court, in other words. BFD.

    With the 9th Circuit C of Apps being the most frequently reversed of all U.S. circuit courts, it's legal malpractice to rely on any decision from a California trial court withstanding the scrutiny of actual judges whom understand the law.

    California courts are the laughing stock of modern jurisprudence.

    Herein fail not at your peril.
    California trial court? Jfc, once again, you are an imbecile. The “US” in US district court should have been your first clue that this is not a California court. This was a federal court. I look forward to hearing your keen legal insights turd. Your innacuracy and general buffoonery is always amusing.
    Thanks for enlightening us to the fact that the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California is, and I'll quote you directly, "not a California Court."

    Not sure how you got there, but not the least bit surprised.

    Stay in T-ball, tadpole. You ain't ready for coach-pitch yet.
    Sledog
  • Cato scholars have since published numerous Immigration Research and Policy Briefs to shed light on this topic. Michelangelo Landgrave, a doctoral student in political science at the University of California, Riverside, and I released a paper today that estimates that illegal immigrant incarceration rates are about half those of native-born Americans in 2017. In the same year, legal immigrant incarceration rates are then again half those of illegal immigrants. Those results are similar to what Landgrave and I published for the years 2014 and 2016. We estimated illegal immigrant incarceration rates by using the same residual method that demographers use to estimate the number of illegal immigrants in the United States, only we also applied that method to the prison population. We used the same method to also find that the incarceration rate for young illegal immigrants brought here as children and theoretically eligible for deferred action is slightly below those of native-born Americans.

    The second strand of research from Cato looks at criminal conviction rates by immigration status in the state of Texas. Unlike every other state, Texas keeps track of the immigration statuses of convicted criminals and the crimes that they committed. Texas is a wonderful state to study because it borders Mexico, has a large illegal immigrant population, is a politically conservative state governed by Republicans, had no jurisdictions that limited its cooperation with federal immigration enforcement in 2015, and it has a law and order reputation for strictly enforcing criminal laws. If anything, Texas is more serious about enforcing laws against illegal immigrant criminals than other states. But even here, illegal immigrant conviction rates are about half those of native-born Americans – without any controls for age, education, ethnicity, or any other characteristic. The illegal immigrant conviction rates for homicide, larceny, and sex crimes are also below those of native-born Americans. The criminal conviction rates for legal immigrants are the lowest of all.


    https://www.cato.org/blog/illegal-immigrants-crime-assessing-evidence
    Gratz on the publication @GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Posts: 32,860
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    Cato scholars have since published numerous Immigration Research and Policy Briefs to shed light on this topic. Michelangelo Landgrave, a doctoral student in political science at the University of California, Riverside, and I released a paper today that estimates that illegal immigrant incarceration rates are about half those of native-born Americans in 2017. In the same year, legal immigrant incarceration rates are then again half those of illegal immigrants. Those results are similar to what Landgrave and I published for the years 2014 and 2016. We estimated illegal immigrant incarceration rates by using the same residual method that demographers use to estimate the number of illegal immigrants in the United States, only we also applied that method to the prison population. We used the same method to also find that the incarceration rate for young illegal immigrants brought here as children and theoretically eligible for deferred action is slightly below those of native-born Americans.

    The second strand of research from Cato looks at criminal conviction rates by immigration status in the state of Texas. Unlike every other state, Texas keeps track of the immigration statuses of convicted criminals and the crimes that they committed. Texas is a wonderful state to study because it borders Mexico, has a large illegal immigrant population, is a politically conservative state governed by Republicans, had no jurisdictions that limited its cooperation with federal immigration enforcement in 2015, and it has a law and order reputation for strictly enforcing criminal laws. If anything, Texas is more serious about enforcing laws against illegal immigrant criminals than other states. But even here, illegal immigrant conviction rates are about half those of native-born Americans – without any controls for age, education, ethnicity, or any other characteristic. The illegal immigrant conviction rates for homicide, larceny, and sex crimes are also below those of native-born Americans. The criminal conviction rates for legal immigrants are the lowest of all.


    https://www.cato.org/blog/illegal-immigrants-crime-assessing-evidence
    Gratz on the publication @GrundleStiltzkin
    Thank you
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