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HillsboroDuck
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It's not exactly a hot take to say 2020 is likely going be the most important recruiting class in UW history because of the high level in state (and former in state) recruits , but I think it's going to be a real test for this staff in more ways than just "can we close 5 stars with geographic ties?"
Here is the current list of kids from what I'd consider the Pac 12 recruiting blueprint (Pac12 states plus Idaho, Nevada and Hawaii) who are currently ranked in 247's top 247. All of these kids are four stars. Obviously not all these kids will be recruited by UW and others not listed will be, somebody else can research deeper if you like. This is just a starter look at what will likely be the majority of top western kids in the class.
Top 247 ranking (kids with UW offer in bold, kids UW is basically already out of it for in strikethrough, school committed to in parentheses)
Smalls - 2
Flowe - 4
Ringo - 7
Uigalelei - 9
Milton - 10
Ricks - 11 (LSU)
Jason Harris - 19 (top unoffered prospect on the list, Buck 'spect from Arizona where we've done pretty well, lets get in on him)
Murao - 20
Johnny Wilson - 21
Bijan - 29
Bryce Young - 39 (USC)
Jermaine Burton - 54 (WR from Calabasasas, teammate of Johnny Wilson, why no offer??)
Gee Jr - 58 (tOSU)
Clark Phillips - 59
Jay Butterfield - 71
John Humphreys - 73
Jack Miller - 86 (tOSU)
Darvon Hubbard - 90 (tOSU)
Botelho - 97
McMillan - 103
Bryant, JR - 105
Reece Atteberry - 108
Darion Green-Warren - 112 (OU)
Damian Sellers - 126
Brandon Jones - 136
Jamar Sekona - 152
Bryce Farrell - 153 (Stanford)
Daniyel - 154
Geirean - 165
Jaden Navarette - 170
Xavier Carlton - 173
Noah Sewell - 177
LV Bunkley-Shelton - 182
Chad Johnson - 190
Matt Sykes - 197
Elijah Badger - 205
Logan Loya - 213
Kris Hutson - 215
Ayden Hector - 217
Andrew Gentry - 224
Max Lenzy - 239
DJ Rogers - 242 (*sniff sniff*) (don't look at his offer sheet, just don't)
Justin Houston - 245
Jared Greenfield - 246
Sam Adams II - 247
Out of area but has in state ties:
Marcus Henderson - 82
A few things of note:
Either 247 is overrating WR or this is a generational WR class (abundance?). There are 47 (!) WRs in the top 247, or 1 of every 5.25 players. I know 2018 was similar but I don't remember the exact numbers. Crazy.
13 of those WRs are in the Pac footprint states, so there are plenty of WRs out there in what will probably be a 4 WR class for UW.
We have issued 23 offers to kids on this list. Of those 23 at least 5 are already not coming here (Uigalelai, Milton, Ricks, Young, Sewell). Of the remaining 18:
Four are from Washington (Smalls, Hackett, Hector, Adams)
Just two (!) are Polynesian (Murao, Botelho)
At least twelve have at least one African American (or African in Ngata's case) parent.
Obviously there are a ton of offers still to go out. But this has the potential to be either the blackest class Pete has recruited at UW or the most disappointing. The vast majority of early offers to highly rated western kids have gone out to African American kids. This was the right year to hire an African American WR coach, and to have Will Harris show his value. We have more African Americans on staff than at any point under Pete. They have a great opportunity to make us better this class.
P.S. Obviously there are offers out there that aren't listed above. I'm not going to bother to list the Texas/OK offers until we get a feel for who we are really in on as the strategy there is obviously an outlier. Here are the other western offers:
Jordan Banks (263)
Nick Herbig (302) (whitey)
Lathan Ransom (303) (how is he not top 247??) (217 by composite)
Josh Jackson - 374 (242 by composite)
Makell Esteen (402)
Mark Redman - 403 (whitey)
Dahlin Mesake (525) (Poly? Asian? Not sure here)
Tosh Baker (527) (whitey?)
Jeffrey Persi (574)
Gaard Memmelaar (647) (viking) (commit)
Rome Odunze - 782
Ethan Garbers - 788 (whitey)
So of the 12 other offers out there four are white kids, maybe one is Poly and the other 7 are mixed or African American.
This class will be defined by our ability to close kids with at least one black parent. We won't be able to rely on getting all the Polys this time around, as there just do not appear to be enough of them in this next class, and two of the best (Uigalelei and Nowell) ain't coming here.
Major level up challenge. Major level up opportunity.
Here is the current list of kids from what I'd consider the Pac 12 recruiting blueprint (Pac12 states plus Idaho, Nevada and Hawaii) who are currently ranked in 247's top 247. All of these kids are four stars. Obviously not all these kids will be recruited by UW and others not listed will be, somebody else can research deeper if you like. This is just a starter look at what will likely be the majority of top western kids in the class.
Top 247 ranking (kids with UW offer in bold, kids UW is basically already out of it for in strikethrough, school committed to in parentheses)
Smalls - 2
Flowe - 4
Ringo - 7
Milton - 10
Ricks - 11
Jason Harris - 19 (top unoffered prospect on the list, Buck 'spect from Arizona where we've done pretty well, lets get in on him)
Murao - 20
Johnny Wilson - 21
Bijan - 29
Jermaine Burton - 54 (WR from Calabasasas, teammate of Johnny Wilson, why no offer??)
Clark Phillips - 59
Jay Butterfield - 71
John Humphreys - 73
Botelho - 97
McMillan - 103
Bryant, JR - 105
Reece Atteberry - 108
Damian Sellers - 126
Brandon Jones - 136
Jamar Sekona - 152
Bryce Farrell - 153 (Stanford)
Daniyel - 154
Geirean - 165
Jaden Navarette - 170
Xavier Carlton - 173
Noah Sewell - 177
LV Bunkley-Shelton - 182
Chad Johnson - 190
Matt Sykes - 197
Elijah Badger - 205
Logan Loya - 213
Kris Hutson - 215
Ayden Hector - 217
Andrew Gentry - 224
Max Lenzy - 239
DJ Rogers - 242 (*sniff sniff*) (don't look at his offer sheet, just don't)
Justin Houston - 245
Jared Greenfield - 246
Sam Adams II - 247
Out of area but has in state ties:
Marcus Henderson - 82
A few things of note:
Either 247 is overrating WR or this is a generational WR class (abundance?). There are 47 (!) WRs in the top 247, or 1 of every 5.25 players. I know 2018 was similar but I don't remember the exact numbers. Crazy.
13 of those WRs are in the Pac footprint states, so there are plenty of WRs out there in what will probably be a 4 WR class for UW.
We have issued 23 offers to kids on this list. Of those 23 at least 5 are already not coming here (Uigalelai, Milton, Ricks, Young, Sewell). Of the remaining 18:
Four are from Washington (Smalls, Hackett, Hector, Adams)
Just two (!) are Polynesian (Murao, Botelho)
At least twelve have at least one African American (or African in Ngata's case) parent.
Obviously there are a ton of offers still to go out. But this has the potential to be either the blackest class Pete has recruited at UW or the most disappointing. The vast majority of early offers to highly rated western kids have gone out to African American kids. This was the right year to hire an African American WR coach, and to have Will Harris show his value. We have more African Americans on staff than at any point under Pete. They have a great opportunity to make us better this class.
P.S. Obviously there are offers out there that aren't listed above. I'm not going to bother to list the Texas/OK offers until we get a feel for who we are really in on as the strategy there is obviously an outlier. Here are the other western offers:
Jordan Banks (263)
Nick Herbig (302) (whitey)
Lathan Ransom (303) (how is he not top 247??) (217 by composite)
Josh Jackson - 374 (242 by composite)
Makell Esteen (402)
Mark Redman - 403 (whitey)
Dahlin Mesake (525) (Poly? Asian? Not sure here)
Tosh Baker (527) (whitey?)
Jeffrey Persi (574)
Gaard Memmelaar (647) (viking) (commit)
Rome Odunze - 782
Ethan Garbers - 788 (whitey)
So of the 12 other offers out there four are white kids, maybe one is Poly and the other 7 are mixed or African American.
This class will be defined by our ability to close kids with at least one black parent. We won't be able to rely on getting all the Polys this time around, as there just do not appear to be enough of them in this next class, and two of the best (Uigalelei and Nowell) ain't coming here.
Major level up challenge. Major level up opportunity.
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Burton recently moved from SEC country and is almost definitely going back.
Harris I thought was playing basketball but I could be wrong. -
Good chinfo, makes sense. I'd still offer Burton but I suppose I understand if they don't.Neighbor2972 said:Burton recently moved from SEC country and is almost definitely going back.
Harris I thought was playing basketball but I could be wrong. -
We've legitimately moved from having a token diverse coaching staff to having an actually diverse coaching staff. As much as people harp on Pete for not getting far enough out of his coaching tree this is a real change in the overall makeup of the coaching staff that looks to pay real dividends.
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I pinned it!
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Most of the lineman haven’t been heavily factored into rankings yet. As you can imagine they develop slower/have less opportunity to see the field heavily as underclassman than the skill position counterparts and don’t have the same exposure opportunities as the 7v7 kids get. But it’s still a rough year for lineman out west nonetheless. Should get a better scope of all the rankings in a few weeks and then really get to see it pretty much set in stone after the rankings that come out post-regionals in May.
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Is there a Myspace or can the guys down at Radio Shack walk me through how to create a jet, warmer, cooker, whatever the youth call those sneaky tweets to compliment the kids for UW? I watched about 40 mins of news in SLC last night which has created pause and reflection. I'm ready to do my part.
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minion_doog said:
Is there a Myspace or can the guys down at Radio Shack walk me through how to create a jet, warmer, cooker, whatever the youth call those sneaky tweets to compliment the kids for UW? I watched about 40 mins of news in SLC last night which has created pause and reflection. I'm ready to do my part.
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Does anyone know why we aren’t remotely looking at Darnell Washington out of Nevada? He’d never come here, but it still seems strange that UW hasn’t even offered
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Do we get to beat Oregon this time?
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NEM?RaceBannon said:Do we get to beat Oregon this time?
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I understand the theory behind a deeper evaluation than mere 24/7 rankings and I appreciate that guys here who follow this stuff like our class better
But but but
They ranked higher. That bothers me more than beating USC makes me happy
That's how champion TBS guys are.
I know we killed it on the DL and hope they are ready to go because we don't have a lot. Our defense is always going to be good now
Getting Puca who I actually saw light ups some guy in the Poly Bowl saved the offense
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I just can’t get behind this as a good idea.HillsboroDuck said:minion_doog said:Is there a Myspace or can the guys down at Radio Shack walk me through how to create a jet, warmer, cooker, whatever the youth call those sneaky tweets to compliment the kids for UW? I watched about 40 mins of news in SLC last night which has created pause and reflection. I'm ready to do my part.
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too much war imageryRaceBannon said:Do we get to beat Oregon this time?
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Is the 2020 class where our title hopes finally come into focus?
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Most likely. We have had great players throughout the Pete era and are now adding great depth to that. The one missing piece is the elite of the elite game breakers. The 2020 class should provide at least one of those (Smalls...and at a position that has been one of the two main missing pieces along with QB).theknowledge said:Is the 2020 class where our title hopes finally come into focus?
It could very easily could provide two more - Ringo and Murao.
We have a real shot at another (Wilson).
And there are a few others sprinkled who you could imagine us getting (Bijan if KB would recruit him, Ngata who has suddenly become underrated around here) and then the Bru McCoy Memorial "he'll never come here" category of Justin Flowe.
I'd guess we add 3 or 4 higher rated players in 2020 than we have gotten to enroll to this point under Pete.
Then you stack that with Huard, Egbuka, Latu, Simon and JTT in 2021...
If UW can get 3 or 4 this year then 4 or 5 next year, especially if those include Smalls and JTT, you have completely changed the appearance of the program to elite kids going forward.
These two classes have massive significance on the field as the final stage of leveling up the roster, but maybe even bigger significance when it comes to recruiting 2022 and beyond.
It's impossible to overstate how important the next 24 months of UW recruiting is. -
Can we send this through snail mail to Jen, Pete, and each coach?HillsboroDuck said:
Most likely. We have had great players throughout the Pete era and are now adding great depth to that. The one missing piece is the elite of the elite game breakers. The 2020 class should provide at least one of those (Smalls...and at a position that has been one of the two main missing pieces along with QB).theknowledge said:Is the 2020 class where our title hopes finally come into focus?
It could very easily could provide two more - Ringo and Murao.
We have a real shot at another (Wilson).
And there are a few others sprinkled who you could imagine us getting (Bijan if KB would recruit him, Ngata who has suddenly become underrated around here) and then the Bru McCoy Memorial "he'll never come here" category of Justin Flowe.
I'd guess we add 3 or 4 higher rated players in 2020 than we have gotten to enroll to this point under Pete.
Then you stack that with Huard, Egbuka, Latu, Simon and JTT in 2021...
If UW can get 3 or 4 this year then 4 or 5 next year, especially if those include Smalls and JTT, you have completely changed the appearance of the program to elite kids going forward.
These two classes have massive significance on the field as the final stage of leveling up the roster, but maybe even bigger significance when it comes to recruiting 2022 and beyond.
It's impossible to overstate how important the next 24 months of UW recruiting is. -
HillsboroDuck said:
Most likely. We have had great players throughout the Pete era and are now adding great depth to that. The one missing piece is the elite of the elite game breakers. The 2020 class should provide at least one of those (Smalls...and at a position that has been one of the two main missing pieces along with QB).theknowledge said:Is the 2020 class where our title hopes finally come into focus?
It could very easily could provide two more - Ringo and Murao.
We have a real shot at another (Wilson).
And there are a few others sprinkled who you could imagine us getting (Bijan if KB would recruit him, Ngata who has suddenly become underrated around here) and then the Bru McCoy Memorial "he'll never come here" category of Justin Flowe.
I'd guess we add 3 or 4 higher rated players in 2020 than we have gotten to enroll to this point under Pete.
Then you stack that with Huard, Egbuka, Latu, Simon and JTT in 2021...
If UW can get 3 or 4 this year then 4 or 5 next year, especially if those include Smalls and JTT, you have completely changed the appearance of the program to elite kids going forward.
These two classes have massive significance on the field as the final stage of leveling up the roster, but maybe even bigger significance when it comes to recruiting 2022 and beyond.
It's impossible to overstate how important the next 24 months of UW recruiting is.
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This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
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Mostly agree. But we have clear strengths and weaknesses when it comes to recruiting kids of different racial backgrounds. I (and most on this bored) want us to be able to bring in great players of any race. This next class will be a great test to see if we can do that. As we've seen the last two years with the #PolyMovement, like attracts like. Our appeal to Polys is a major advantage to us going forward. It does not appear to be a major advantage in recruiting the 2020 class specifically.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
Win. -
HillsboroDuck said:
Mostly agree. But we have clear strengths and weaknesses when it comes to recruiting kids of different racial backgrounds. I (and most on this bored) want us to be able to bring in great players of any race. This next class will be a great test to see if we can do that. As we've seen the last two years with the #PolyMovement, like attracts like. Our appeal to Polys is a major advantage to us going forward. It does not appear to be a major advantage in recruiting the 2020 class specifically.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
Win.
Let me help you - our recruiting mirrors the demographics of the area of the country the school is located in. A lot of white people in WA state, with a large Asian minority and the biggest polynesian community outside of the islands.
Contrast this with southern schools.
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Yep. You're never weird about race at all PGOS. Not at all. No sir.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
Win. -
Don't be salty. The lack of rebuttals to my last post in this thread sums things up.NorwegianHusky said:
Yep. You're never weird about race at all PGOS. Not at all. No sir.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
Win.
Im right, as always
Also, @backthepack, nice bitch move chinning my post and then switching it to a wtf after the short bus all wtfed my post. You fit right in little guy dont worry -
Fat fingered it the first time, hth retard!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Don't be salty. The lack of rebuttals to my last post in this thread sums things up.NorwegianHusky said:
Yep. You're never weird about race at all PGOS. Not at all. No sir.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
Win.
Im right, as always
Also, @backthepack, nice bitch move chinning my post and then switching it to a wtf after the short bus all wtfed my post. You fit right in little guy dont worry -
Nah, you didntbackthepack said:
Fat fingered it the first time, hth retard!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Don't be salty. The lack of rebuttals to my last post in this thread sums things up.NorwegianHusky said:
Yep. You're never weird about race at all PGOS. Not at all. No sir.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
Win.
Im right, as always
Also, @backthepack, nice bitch move chinning my post and then switching it to a wtf after the short bus all wtfed my post. You fit right in little guy dont worry
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I really wanted to get on board with this and then thought about the African demo in Eugene...PostGameOrangeSlices said:HillsboroDuck said:
Mostly agree. But we have clear strengths and weaknesses when it comes to recruiting kids of different racial backgrounds. I (and most on this bored) want us to be able to bring in great players of any race. This next class will be a great test to see if we can do that. As we've seen the last two years with the #PolyMovement, like attracts like. Our appeal to Polys is a major advantage to us going forward. It does not appear to be a major advantage in recruiting the 2020 class specifically.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
Win.
Let me help you - our recruiting mirrors the demographics of the area of the country the school is located in. A lot of white people in WA state, with a large Asian minority and the biggest polynesian community outside of the islands.
Contrast this with southern schools. -
Oregon has no recruiting base outside Calidirtysouwfdawg said:
I really wanted to get on board with this and then thought about the African demo in Eugene...PostGameOrangeSlices said:HillsboroDuck said:
Mostly agree. But we have clear strengths and weaknesses when it comes to recruiting kids of different racial backgrounds. I (and most on this bored) want us to be able to bring in great players of any race. This next class will be a great test to see if we can do that. As we've seen the last two years with the #PolyMovement, like attracts like. Our appeal to Polys is a major advantage to us going forward. It does not appear to be a major advantage in recruiting the 2020 class specifically.PostGameOrangeSlices said:This board is so fucking weird when it comes to race.
I dont give a fuck if the recruits are black, brown, white, yellow, red, pink, green, or rainbow.
Win.
Let me help you - our recruiting mirrors the demographics of the area of the country the school is located in. A lot of white people in WA state, with a large Asian minority and the biggest polynesian community outside of the islands.
Contrast this with southern schools. -
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