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Ethan Garbers, 2020 4* QB, Newport Beach (Corona Del Mar), CA (Committed)
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Watson won a natty, not a Superbowl dumbass. I hate pro football so, I'll give you that. I would take a mobile QB also, unless the pocket passer is in a system with an elite supporting class. A mobile QB covers alot of mistakes by OL and receivers. A pocket passer relies on read8ng defenses, adjusting on fly, hot reads, outlets, and blocking schemes.
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Obviously you didn't get the sarcasm.dannarc said:
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titlesKrunkJuice said:
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.RoadDawg55 said:
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.Canadawg said:In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best -
TDDR againKrunkJuice said:
Obviously you didn't get the sarcasm.dannarc said:
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titlesKrunkJuice said:
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.RoadDawg55 said:
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.Canadawg said:In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best -
Did you really just make that fucking apples to apples comparison?dannarc said:
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titlesKrunkJuice said:
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.RoadDawg55 said:
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.Canadawg said:In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best -
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.RoadDawg55 said:
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.dannarc said:
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titlesKrunkJuice said:
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.RoadDawg55 said:
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.Canadawg said:In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them. -
Mahomes drops dimes but his ability to run and scramble helps a lot. This isn’t even an argument. The best college QB’s in recent years have been a threat with their legs.KrunkJuice said:
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.RoadDawg55 said:
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.dannarc said:
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titlesKrunkJuice said:
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.RoadDawg55 said:
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.Canadawg said:In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them. -
Who are the great college pocket passers? I’ll wait. Lawrence broke off a 60 yard TD run against Ohio State.
I didn’t say I wanted a QB that couldn’t throw. Of course throwing is better. I like guys that can buy time with their feet and pick up first downs or gain 5+ when nobody is open on first down. What are any of you even arguing? But, but... Tom Brady! -
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.KrunkJuice said:
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.RoadDawg55 said:
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.dannarc said:
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titlesKrunkJuice said:
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.RoadDawg55 said:
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.Canadawg said:In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
https://youtu.be/z0CfMDd9-IE
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play? -
A shame I can only chin this once. Bravo.ExtraChrisB said:
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.KrunkJuice said:
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.RoadDawg55 said:
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.dannarc said:
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titlesKrunkJuice said:
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.RoadDawg55 said:
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.Canadawg said:In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.https://youtu.be/z0CfMDd9-IE
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play? -
Even his avatar is an old racist trope. Thankfully for him, racism is accepted here.Emoterman said:
A shame I can only chin this once. Bravo.ExtraChrisB said:
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.KrunkJuice said:
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.RoadDawg55 said:
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.dannarc said:
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titlesKrunkJuice said:
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.RoadDawg55 said:
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.Canadawg said:In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.https://youtu.be/z0CfMDd9-IE
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
