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Husky Jacks open thread [2019]

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  • WeakarmCobraWeakarmCobra Posts: 10,909
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    Injuries and non-participants
    Linebacker Myles Rice was a full-go in drills after being in a no-contact jersey last Friday. However, the Huskies were without redshirt freshman linebacker Ben Hines, who sat out of drills in today’s practice. The three wideouts who were previously reported with injuries sat out again during Monday’s practice without pads, Ty Jones (who was not wearing a shoulder sling but had a large cast on his right arm), Quinten Pounds, and Aaron Fuller. Early enrollee Jacob Bandes was again absent from Monday’s practice. Freshman offensive lineman Troy Fautanu, who was injured in last Friday’s practice, was wearing a boot on his left foot and was using a scooter on Monday.


    Other notes
    - Myles Bryant exclusively took 11-on-11 reps at safety alongside Brandon McKinney. Keith Taylor and Dominique Hampton started with the first team defense at outside corner, with Kyler Gordon occasionally rolling in for Hampton, and Elijah Molden started in the nickel.

    - It seems like a different defensive lineman steps up each practice, as Josiah Bronson stood out in team scrimmage periods Monday morning, recording a sack and being a constant disruption in the UW offensive backfield.

    - Jacob Eason again took most of the first-team snaps at quarterback, with Jake Haener running the twos for the most part.

    - Center Nick Harris took a few of the first-team snaps during 11-on-11 periods, but it was Cole Norgaard who took the bulk of the reps with the first team on Monday.

    - Peyton Henry finished 2-of-3 for the day, missing an attempt from 37-yards out from the right hash, but nailing the second attempt from the same spot. Later in the practice the sophomore drilled a 39-yarder from the right hash.
    But Pete is going to give haener the job and Eason is in the portal. I have sources
    GrundleStiltzkinbackthepackHillsboroDuckSources
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 41,006
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    dannarc said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    The idea that you morons can't figure out is that it isn't about fucking practice. Deshaun Watson practiced worse than Cole Stoudt all fall of his freshman year, then Dabo started Cole like an idiot because of what he did in practice.

    That cost them a playoff appearance in '14. He didn't make the same mistake with Trevor Lawrence.

    When guys get experience, they get better. Anyone who doesn't know this should go fuck off.

    The Doogism is so high in our program 90% of our fans have internalized the idea that we can actually win with less talent, even though they see Clemson, Bama, Ohio State etc kill it every year.

    Fucking retards.

    Skinny isn't great right now in practice. He's inconsistent, but his highs are always higher than Haener's. You just want the variance to come down on Skinny. Haener will NEVER be able to do what Skinny can do for this offense.

    lol at anyone who thinks Pete should be trusted with this decision. His offenses have been garbage since Kellen Moore left and retard shit like this is why.

    Its just a few half assed practices during Spring... Its not the end of the world.

    Experience never helped Browning. Physical talent with QBs isn't be all end all. QB production has been shit since Keith Price Sophomore year (2011).

    Coaches regularly make the wrong decisions with starting QBs.

    A QB that consistently plays at a 6/7 with Petes system of great defense and solid OL/RB play is more valuable than a QB that plays at a 4 through 10. He obviously prefers to have a system that asks a QB to just not lose the game, rather than have to win it... The perception of this idea is negatively skewed given browning consistently played well below a 5 imo.

    If we just had mildly above average consistent QB play (6/7) we would be looking at a team with probably zero regular season losses over the past 3 years with our only losses being to either Clemson or Alabama in the playoffs.

    Tua Tagovailoa and Taylor Bean aren't walking through that door any time soon. If we can get a Drew Olson or Cade McNown type production we are good enough to make the playoffs every year and have a chance at winning it all.

    As always, do more with more, but there are plenty of physically talented QBs that sucked ass and get passed by some unathletic or short try hard that has a brain.

    And don't twist, I'm always the first to tweet #FirePete, and head coaches always suck at picking the starter QB, but it's clear the system is set up for a minimal variance QB... which is naturally in conflict with your cult leadership of best potential physical talent = best football player.
    How has Pete's QB play been outside of one person?

    FOH with this shit.

    Physical talent is NECESSARY not sufficient. You fucking idiots think it isn't even necessary. That's what makes Doogs and fuckbags like you morons.
    The offense has sucked since Ross and Pettis left... The QB play has sucked forever... Coaches suck at picking the correct QB starter...

    I get it.


    You tend to vastly over-value potential physical talent.

    The physical talent necessary to be a good productive college QB is pretty damn low. Some of the greatest QBs of all time are less athletic than an average high schooler. The high threshold requirement for QBs is intelligence and accuracy.

    Maybe the answer is Eason, maybe its Haner, chances are all of the QBs suck and we go 10-3 with no meaningful wins and the offense sucks again.

    The statement "there aren't a million programs that would take Skinny and give him a starting spot this fall you are a clown" is pointless... Iron laws; Coaches suck at picking the correct starting QB and most coaches are retards. There are a million programs that would have taken Browning after his sophomore year too.

    And, no this is not an endorsement/defense for Haner, before anybody twists.

    I'm just saying there's a lot more to being a QB than being tall and being able to throw the ball a long ways. Its entirely possible that is all Eason has.
    We scored 7 against Bama in the biggest game in Pete's life.

    Also - if you think that Jake and Skinny are the same level of prospect and would have the same level of interest you are a fucking tard and there's no way you will understand anything I'm saying.

    We've lacked talent for so long people here have really convinced themselves it doesn't matter. lol

    I over-value physical talent? Yeah. Just like Dabo and Saban you fucking idiot.

    Christ Jesus almighty.

    Do you know what the difference between SUFFICIENT and NECESSARY are you fuckbag?

    My god.
    I had chills reading this, it was like one of my dad's scolding me for scoring a 69% on a pop quiz in 5th grade. No mention of Earl Thomas, gtfo
    If I had ever brought home a 69% test score I wouldn't be alive today
    Dennis_DeYoungGilbystaint
  • dannarcdannarc Posts: 323
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    Spring practice superiority guys.....gotta love em
    GrundleStiltzkinbackthepackGreenRiverGatorz
  • picalogestabopicalogestabo Posts: 363
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    Houhusky said:

    a teenage girl on the rag.

    YKW
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Posts: 33,705
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    That's why your bitch ass still hasn't won a fucking respectable bowl game at UW you fucking bitch.


    This

    The honeymoon is over. We're back from the abyss. Pretty good isn't good enough

    Race's head explodes everytime me he tries to formulate a thought...
    RaceBannon
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Posts: 14,298
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    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    The idea that you morons can't figure out is that it isn't about fucking practice. Deshaun Watson practiced worse than Cole Stoudt all fall of his freshman year, then Dabo started Cole like an idiot because of what he did in practice.

    That cost them a playoff appearance in '14. He didn't make the same mistake with Trevor Lawrence.

    When guys get experience, they get better. Anyone who doesn't know this should go fuck off.

    The Doogism is so high in our program 90% of our fans have internalized the idea that we can actually win with less talent, even though they see Clemson, Bama, Ohio State etc kill it every year.

    Fucking retards.

    Skinny isn't great right now in practice. He's inconsistent, but his highs are always higher than Haener's. You just want the variance to come down on Skinny. Haener will NEVER be able to do what Skinny can do for this offense.

    lol at anyone who thinks Pete should be trusted with this decision. His offenses have been garbage since Kellen Moore left and retard shit like this is why.

    Its just a few half assed practices during Spring... Its not the end of the world.

    Experience never helped Browning. Physical talent with QBs isn't be all end all. QB production has been shit since Keith Price Sophomore year (2011).

    Coaches regularly make the wrong decisions with starting QBs.

    A QB that consistently plays at a 6/7 with Petes system of great defense and solid OL/RB play is more valuable than a QB that plays at a 4 through 10. He obviously prefers to have a system that asks a QB to just not lose the game, rather than have to win it... The perception of this idea is negatively skewed given browning consistently played well below a 5 imo.

    If we just had mildly above average consistent QB play (6/7) we would be looking at a team with probably zero regular season losses over the past 3 years with our only losses being to either Clemson or Alabama in the playoffs.

    Tua Tagovailoa and Taylor Bean aren't walking through that door any time soon. If we can get a Drew Olson or Cade McNown type production we are good enough to make the playoffs every year and have a chance at winning it all.

    As always, do more with more, but there are plenty of physically talented QBs that sucked ass and get passed by some unathletic or short try hard that has a brain.

    And don't twist, I'm always the first to tweet #FirePete, and head coaches always suck at picking the starter QB, but it's clear the system is set up for a minimal variance QB... which is naturally in conflict with your cult leadership of best potential physical talent = best football player.
    How has Pete's QB play been outside of one person?

    FOH with this shit.

    Physical talent is NECESSARY not sufficient. You fucking idiots think it isn't even necessary. That's what makes Doogs and fuckbags like you morons.
    The offense has sucked since Ross and Pettis left... The QB play has sucked forever... Coaches suck at picking the correct QB starter...

    I get it.


    You tend to vastly over-value potential physical talent.

    The physical talent necessary to be a good productive college QB is pretty damn low. Some of the greatest QBs of all time are less athletic than an average high schooler. The high threshold requirement for QBs is intelligence and accuracy.

    Maybe the answer is Eason, maybe its Haner, chances are all of the QBs suck and we go 10-3 with no meaningful wins and the offense sucks again.

    The statement "there aren't a million programs that would take Skinny and give him a starting spot this fall you are a clown" is pointless... Iron laws; Coaches suck at picking the correct starting QB and most coaches are retards. There are a million programs that would have taken Browning after his sophomore year too.

    And, no this is not an endorsement/defense for Haner, before anybody twists.

    I'm just saying there's a lot more to being a QB than being tall and being able to throw the ball a long ways. Its entirely possible that is all Eason has.
    We scored 7 against Bama in the biggest game in Pete's life.

    Also - if you think that Jake and Skinny are the same level of prospect and would have the same level of interest you are a fucking tard and there's no way you will understand anything I'm saying.

    We've lacked talent for so long people here have really convinced themselves it doesn't matter. lol

    I over-value physical talent? Yeah. Just like Dabo and Saban you fucking idiot.

    Christ Jesus almighty.

    Do you know what the difference between SUFFICIENT and NECESSARY are you fuckbag?

    My god.
    Talent matters... No one is arguing otherwise, you are too busy rampaging against arguments that no one is making.

    physical talent =/= football talent. Especially at QB.

    If super athletic ability was NECESSARY then QBs like Brees, Brady, or Manning wouldn't be all time greats. The threshold for NECESSARY athletic ability is incredibly low.

    Intelligence, accuracy, and leadership are key, maybe Eason doesnt have those things?


    I know its your whole shtick, but why don't you wait until we are tied at the end of halftime against EWU, or atleast until Haner is named the starter in fall, to freak out like a teenage girl on the rag.

    You think being so wrong about BBK would have chilled you out a bit on this topic, just a tad.
    Luv u bb. I’m just being needlessly confrontational as usual.

    You understand my point and know I’m right (you’re not really wrong you are just holding on to the ‘maybe doing the thing that rarely works will work in this case’ narrative for dear life) even if I’m being a dick.

    Houhuskybackthepack
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Posts: 1,960
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    It's pretty clear that Pete values 'lack of mistakes' at QB rather than play-making. This is why Browning regressed to the point where he looked like Miley.

    He makes the whole team play tight and beta with his fear of mistakes. The best half of ball Browning played in two years was the end of the Rose Bowl where he let it rip. But our team is usually tight and afraid, instead of confident and loose.

    We are really well coached in general, but this is the obvious reality of Pete.

    Pete pretty clearly prefers QBs than remind him of him.

    And anyone that says this means Sirmon, Yankoff, Skinny and Dylan suck don't understand. Pete is a fucking bag of shit when it comes to developing QBs quite obviously.

    If Haener actually wins the job and starts the whole season, Yankoff will leave for sure.

    I personally prefer scared and tight over loose. Call me old fashioned.
    NorwegianHuskyDennis_DeYoung
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Posts: 1,960
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    Time for me to go on a rant of my own:

    There is something fundamentally wrong with this program and Kyler Manu is a perfect example. As a coach, it's your job to get your most talented players ready to play at a high level as soon as possible. Not to promote a career bottom of the depth chart bench warmer to the top of the depth chart to start Spring just because "he has a lot of banked practice reps and knows what he's doing". That's so fucking stupid! If you KNOW you DON'T WANT HIM TO BE THE FUCKING STARTER when the season comes around then what the fuck are you doing? Why are you wasting those valuable reps on a fucking scrub!? Why aren't those reps going to one of the more talented young guys so he can learn and improve faster by getting more reps? If the more talented guys are improving faster, your team as a whole is improving faster! Kyler Manu has been here for FOUR fucking years. He's gotten a million practice reps and has had his fucking chance to impress. He hasn't. Common sense says he sucks and one more Spring ball and Fall camp is not gonna change that so get Jackson Sirmon ready to play by giving him as many reps as possible and stop wasting valuable reps on that fucking scrub!

    You put the best talent on the fucking field. If they make mistakes because they're young we can all live with that because at least we know we'll be better off in the long run and talent wins out. What we can't live with is watching a less talented guy out there who "knows what he's doing" but consistently gets physically beat because he's not fucking talented enough! I'm so sick of this HYPER RISK ADVERSE BULLSHIT every fucking year with these JAGs and scrubs. It's pussy shit. Chris Petersen is a fucking PUSSY! Great guy, but a pussy nonetheless. Superior talent is what wins fucking football games. If the smartest team or the most veteran team always won football games Stanford would never lose. The teams winning national championships have a bunch of dumb ass kids who wouldn't be in college without football but they whoop ass because they're way more talented than almost everybody they play. Who gives a fuck about a few mental mistakes here and there? When you're bigger, faster, and stronger than your opponent, over the course of a LONG college football game, the team with the better talent and adequate coaching almost always wins. STOP GIVING FIRST TEAM REPS TO FUCKING SCRUBS! This isn't fucking intramural sports where everybody deserves an equal chance to play. This is big-time college football. Fucking act like it you scrawny little pussy. There's no way in hell Nick Saban would be giving Kyler Manu first-team reps EVER! Saban would have cut his ass a long time ago and replaced him with somebody more talented and competitive. Dabo, who's a nice guy as well, would delegate him to scout team duties until he got the message and quit the team. PLEASE JUST STOP! Fucking pussy ass choir boy coaches don't win national championships. That's why your bitch ass still hasn't won a fucking respectable bowl game at UW you fucking bitch.

    Disagree.

    Peterman blocked me on Twitter.

    Not OKG.


    Side note, ddy worthy rant but I’m gonna need to see more “fucking retards” and “JFC” Maybe some racist shit as well.
    Dennis_DeYoung
  • backthepackbackthepack Posts: 9,541
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    Talent wins football games

    Just get physically talented kids we have the FUCKING COACHES!
    guntlove
  • WeakarmCobraWeakarmCobra Posts: 10,909
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    Talent wins football games

    Just get physically talented kids we have the FUCKING COACHES!

    I think we actually have the physical talented kids on the roster, coaches just being too conservative with them
    backthepackdirtysouwfdawgDoog_de_JourUW_Doog_Bot
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