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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,386 Standard Supporter

    I don’t have anything to back it up, but 4 star WR’s seem to be busts more than any other position. A lot of these guys put up big numbers in pass happy offenses in high school but actually suck. See Spiker as example #1.

    Yeah I doubt there is any data to back that up. Seems like people have that take for whatever position their team inexplicably sucks at.

    Also how do we know our 4* receivers are busts if they never get to play?
    There are tons of 4 star WR’s. It’s definitely over saturated in the rankings.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    I don’t have anything to back it up, but 4 star WR’s seem to be busts more than any other position. A lot of these guys put up big numbers in pass happy offenses in high school but actually suck. See Spiker as example #1.

    Yeah I doubt there is any data to back that up. Seems like people have that take for whatever position their team inexplicably sucks at.

    Also how do we know our 4* receivers are busts if they never get to play?
    There are tons of 4 star WR’s. It’s definitely over saturated in the rankings.
    Chin was a 4 star on ESPN.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    I don’t have anything to back it up, but 4 star WR’s seem to be busts more than any other position. A lot of these guys put up big numbers in pass happy offenses in high school but actually suck. See Spiker as example #1.

    Yeah I doubt there is any data to back that up. Seems like people have that take for whatever position their team inexplicably sucks at.

    Also how do we know our 4* receivers are busts if they never get to play?
    There are tons of 4 star WR’s. It’s definitely over saturated in the rankings.
    This is a very strong point. Every time I have checked it has easily been the most represented position in the 4 blue chip rankings.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Houhusky said:

    Domicillo said:
    On Eason having a bad game:



    On how many drops:






    The fact that Pete is outright saying the best WR were on the field has me freaking out. It's literally the only position on the team that none of the young guys ever rotate in and get a chance. Even on OL where you want it to be older guys, Kirkland showed he was the best and took over. Defensive side of the ball is only about rotating guys and getting young talent in. That's why people are frustrated today about the defense, the young guys played like young guys. But at least they played.
    WR is supposed to be the easiest position to recruit and the easiest to transition from HS early and yet all the WRs suck and never get better.
    I don't think this is true. RB is far easier to make an early impact in college and the NFL.

    It used to be the rule that receivers took three years in the NFL before they really emerged. That isn't so consistent anymore but it's still not unusual for the transition to take awhile at either level.

    I'm not saying it's the hardest position but I've never heard/seen anyone suggest it's the easiest.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,457 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Houhusky said:

    Domicillo said:
    On Eason having a bad game:



    On how many drops:






    The fact that Pete is outright saying the best WR were on the field has me freaking out. It's literally the only position on the team that none of the young guys ever rotate in and get a chance. Even on OL where you want it to be older guys, Kirkland showed he was the best and took over. Defensive side of the ball is only about rotating guys and getting young talent in. That's why people are frustrated today about the defense, the young guys played like young guys. But at least they played.
    WR is supposed to be the easiest position to recruit and the easiest to transition from HS early and yet all the WRs suck and never get better.
    I don't think this is true. RB is far easier to make an early impact in college and the NFL.

    It used to be the rule that receivers took three years in the NFL before they really emerged. That isn't so consistent anymore but it's still not unusual for the transition to take awhile at either level.

    I'm not saying it's the hardest position but I've never heard/seen anyone suggest it's the easiest.
    I wondered on Saturday as I saw Joe Ngata return a punt and nothing else at Clemson if he would be starting here

    Or would he be sitting with the rest of the kids because he's not ready

  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Apropos of nothing, the WR position and play is my least favorite in football aside from kickers, who really don't count anyway.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,386 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    Houhusky said:

    Domicillo said:
    On Eason having a bad game:



    On how many drops:






    The fact that Pete is outright saying the best WR were on the field has me freaking out. It's literally the only position on the team that none of the young guys ever rotate in and get a chance. Even on OL where you want it to be older guys, Kirkland showed he was the best and took over. Defensive side of the ball is only about rotating guys and getting young talent in. That's why people are frustrated today about the defense, the young guys played like young guys. But at least they played.
    WR is supposed to be the easiest position to recruit and the easiest to transition from HS early and yet all the WRs suck and never get better.
    I don't think this is true. RB is far easier to make an early impact in college and the NFL.

    It used to be the rule that receivers took three years in the NFL before they really emerged. That isn't so consistent anymore but it's still not unusual for the transition to take awhile at either level.

    I'm not saying it's the hardest position but I've never heard/seen anyone suggest it's the easiest.
    I wondered on Saturday as I saw Joe Ngata return a punt and nothing else at Clemson if he would be starting here

    Or would he be sitting with the rest of the kids because he's not ready

    Clemson at least has a reason for him not playing. Those WR’s ahead of him are good, future early round picks. At least the two main guys.

    I still doubt Ngata would do much more than rotate in for a few plays if he came to UW. Later in the season he would get more time.
  • bigcc
    bigcc Member Posts: 900
    Has Petersen ever actually manned up and said that anything, play calling, time management, depth chart, was actually HIS fault and not a team fuck up or added some qualifier such as this?

    I know nobody here likes Pete Carroll, but he admits when he is wrong, and will take the blame for others even when it wasn't his fault.

    Why the fuck can't Petersen admit that he fucked up the clock management and say that he will be better going forward? Fucking hell of an example to set for the kids I'm sure he would expect to own up to their mistakes