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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    First of all you're talking out your ass when comes to all drinking water being part of some public system. Do you fuckers ever read anything but the bullshit you're spoon fed by ThinkProgress?

    Second of all, none of the programs you tout could exist without capitalism. Capitalism is the Golden Goose that pays for all of your "socialism." Capitalism would do just fine if none of your "socialism" ever existed.




  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    Too bad for the socialists that we have actual evidence of which system was able to innovate and afford clean air and water and which system crumbled in poverty and environmental degradation

    So naturally the socialists in America choose the system that failed and left a stain on the earth

    It takes a lot of economy to afford to do things clean and America and the West can do it. Socialists can't

    Dupes

    Water purification plants, the things that make water drinkable, are publicly owned. The pipes that deliver that water are publicly owned. If you’ve ever had a sip of clean water in the US it’s because of democratic socialism.

    The police, fire department, highways, airports, public transit, parks, the FBI, the Secret Service, social security, Medicare are all democratic socialism. Your capitalist utopia was built on the foundation of what you now demonize as socialism.

    So you can fear monger all you want but your message is being delivered via the internet which was create by people using government grants and doing government research.

    B-b-but Venezuela!
    No it wasn't

    This is simplistic bullshit

    Capitalistism paid for all of it.

    China pollutes the world just like the Soviet Block did. Forward Progress to clean Lake Washington started in the 60's. The USSR was a cess pool to the day it died. People are still finding the mess they left in the ground and the water

    A country formed on the principles of freedom voting in the government they want to provide essential services is not socialism. Because someone has to pay for it

    You tell me why capitalist countries are cleaner? Just lucky?

    Capitalism is also where the innovation comes from, private, government or some sort of hybrid, all done in freedom, not slavery

    You don't know what capitalism is despite your fear mongering over hoe no one can get ahead in America and its all rigged boo hoo hoo I'm a victim

    I've said here many times I am happy to argue over hoe big and how much government does in a free capitalist society. I agreed with Bono that unfettered capitalism did damage individuals.

    Don't kill the golden goose with ignorance.

    To me, anyone arguing for socialism or communism might as well argue for Nazism too. Its all the same pile of shit

    We have something better here. Move to Venezuela and let us know if it is bullshit. Because it isn't

    Move to China and try to use the internet there without the government telling you what you can see.

    You have producers here willing to give 50% to the state. Don't fuck it up
    GOAT poast, GOAT poaster.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,053 Founders Club

    I really hope she runs for president, gets the dem nom, and takes the plunger in the election.

    She won't but she might drag the inevitable Dem candidate so far left that they get the plunger in the general. It's how Trump has a base in traditional blue states.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    I’m a nazi, Trump’s a nazi, Obama’s a nazi, Bush was a nazi, everyone’s a nazi.

    “Capitalism pays for things”

    “Let’s pay for healthcare and education”

    “You’re a nazi”

    Brilliant.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    Capitalism is not the absence of social spending.

    Lesson 2 tomorrow
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Suggest any social spending and get called a nazi.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,053 Founders Club
    Lol at another new deal proposal. The economic ignorance is so glaring it hurts. The LAST thing the current economy needs is stimulus even if you think it would work. Why do you think the Fed has been raising rates? Even super liberal economists are going to pump the brakes on this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club

    Suggest any social spending and get called a nazi.

    I see why you are on team hondo now

    My well thought out rants deserve a better opponent than this

    Any social spending. Sure
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Suggest any social spending and get called a nazi.

    I see why you are on team hondo now

    My well thought out rants deserve a better opponent than this

    Any social spending. Sure
    Is that like seeing a Democrat wearing white and calling them KKK?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Suggest any social spending and get called a nazi.

    Over half of our current budget goes to social spending. The problem with you leftists is that your desire for more "social spending" is endless. You're never satisfied and your sense of entitlement to the labor of others knows few limits.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter

    Too bad for the socialists that we have actual evidence of which system was able to innovate and afford clean air and water and which system crumbled in poverty and environmental degradation

    So naturally the socialists in America choose the system that failed and left a stain on the earth

    It takes a lot of economy to afford to do things clean and America and the West can do it. Socialists can't

    Dupes

    Water purification plants, the things that make water drinkable, are publicly owned. The pipes that deliver that water are publicly owned. If you’ve ever had a sip of clean water in the US it’s because of democratic socialism.

    The police, fire department, highways, airports, public transit, parks, the FBI, the Secret Service, social security, Medicare are all democratic socialism. Your capitalist utopia was built on the foundation of what you now demonize as socialism.

    So you can fear monger all you want but your message is being delivered via the internet which was create by people using government grants and doing government research.

    B-b-but Venezuela!
    No it wasn't

    This is simplistic bullshit

    Capitalistism paid for all of it.

    China pollutes the world just like the Soviet Block did. Forward Progress to clean Lake Washington started in the 60's. The USSR was a cess pool to the day it died. People are still finding the mess they left in the ground and the water

    A country formed on the principles of freedom voting in the government they want to provide essential services is not socialism. Because someone has to pay for it

    You tell me why capitalist countries are cleaner? Just lucky?

    Capitalism is also where the innovation comes from, private, government or some sort of hybrid, all done in freedom, not slavery

    You don't know what capitalism is despite your fear mongering over hoe no one can get ahead in America and its all rigged boo hoo hoo I'm a victim

    I've said here many times I am happy to argue over hoe big and how much government does in a free capitalist society. I agreed with Bono that unfettered capitalism did damage individuals.

    Don't kill the golden goose with ignorance.

    To me, anyone arguing for socialism or communism might as well argue for Nazism too. Its all the same pile of shit

    We have something better here. Move to Venezuela and let us know if it is bullshit. Because it isn't

    Move to China and try to use the internet there without the government telling you what you can see.

    You have producers here willing to give 50% to the state. Don't fuck it up
    GOAT poast, GOAT poaster.
    50% is too high, But yeah what Race said. Old guys rule!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,701 Standard Supporter

    Suggest any social spending and get called a nazi.

    How about you pay for YOUR education and I'll pay for mine!

    I shouldn't pay for YOUR education. It's your job!
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Suggest any social spending and get called a nazi.

    I see why you are on team hondo now

    My well thought out rants deserve a better opponent than this

    Any social spending. Sure
    Is that like seeing a Democrat wearing white and calling them KKK?
    It's consistent with the actual facts of history.


    I know it won't, but HTH.