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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    I have a few buddies who are timber cruisers. They worry about those things more than anything else, except for maybe weird people.

    All of them carry heat into the woods, and I don't blame them. They also take dogs with them if nothing else to give them a heads up. Those things are deadly af.

    There have only been a handful of cougar attacks, let alone fatalities, in the last 100 years in the U.S. If you're worried about cougars you're a pansy.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,807 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    I have a few buddies who are timber cruisers. They worry about those things more than anything else, except for maybe weird people.

    All of them carry heat into the woods, and I don't blame them. They also take dogs with them if nothing else to give them a heads up. Those things are deadly af.

    I've regularly walked 1-5 miles at a time alone in the woods for work going back to the early 90s (thousands of miles by now) and have exactly one cougar encounter. It was on a short section of stream running right through a town. It ran away from me but still scared the shit out of me. I was, like everyone in my field of work, carrying a walking stick with an small hook on one end and a flimsy knife with no point and a dull, serrated blade.

    There are dozens, hundreds at times, of people out walking in the northwest woods alone for work every day, almost year round, with no dog or weapons (by policy). While the number of fatal or dangerous cougar encounters is rising quickly, it's still at zero.

    Dogs are nothing but cougar bait unless you have multiple noisy ones with you.
    Not sure I agree with you on that point. They hear and smell the thing long before you're in a position to say "oh shit, it's a cougar".

    And the guy who had his stomach eaten last May? The guy on the bike? 1>0.

    I'm not saying it's an epidemic; but if I'm in the woods often, I'm going to be prepped. Being eaten alive is on the creep's priority list of things to avoid.
    That guy wasn't working unless I'm mistaken, so I'm still right

    U don't do as much field work anymore but still get out a few times a year alone and I fish alone all the time. I'm usually nervous when doing it and often joke about wearing a mask on the back of my head. I know many, many folks who are out there for 40ish hours a week though, and few who have ever seen one let alone had an encounter.

    One of my friends does solo owl calling at night. He is a private contractor and does carry a pistol. The one time he pulled it was for a bear that kept circling him. Scary shit.

    Cougars are well known for stalking and attacking individual dogs, wolves, and even young bears. The specialists I've talked to all agree that bringing a single dog with you, even a very large and/or vigilant one, increases your odds of being followed or even approached by a cougar.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,278

    I have a few buddies who are timber cruisers. They worry about those things more than anything else, except for maybe weird people.

    All of them carry heat into the woods, and I don't blame them. They also take dogs with them if nothing else to give them a heads up. Those things are deadly af.

    There have only been a handful of cougar attacks, let alone fatalities, in the last 100 years in the U.S. If you're worried about cougars you're a pansy.
    Tuff talk. Statistically insignificant numbers of people get bitten by white sharks, but I hard passed every invite to surf off the northern coast of California, because it does happen there.

    Even Chuck acknowledged that the run-in rate with mountain lions is increasing. Plus, I saw Deliverance when I was like 11 or 12.

    Do what you want. IDRGAF. I myself don't like to be in the woods w/o a gun, so I don't be in the woods w/o a gun.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,278
    edited February 2019
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    I have a few buddies who are timber cruisers. They worry about those things more than anything else, except for maybe weird people.

    All of them carry heat into the woods, and I don't blame them. They also take dogs with them if nothing else to give them a heads up. Those things are deadly af.

    I've regularly walked 1-5 miles at a time alone in the woods for work going back to the early 90s (thousands of miles by now) and have exactly one cougar encounter. It was on a short section of stream running right through a town. It ran away from me but still scared the shit out of me. I was, like everyone in my field of work, carrying a walking stick with an small hook on one end and a flimsy knife with no point and a dull, serrated blade.

    There are dozens, hundreds at times, of people out walking in the northwest woods alone for work every day, almost year round, with no dog or weapons (by policy). While the number of fatal or dangerous cougar encounters is rising quickly, it's still at zero.

    Dogs are nothing but cougar bait unless you have multiple noisy ones with you.
    Not sure I agree with you on that point. They hear and smell the thing long before you're in a position to say "oh shit, it's a cougar".

    And the guy who had his stomach eaten last May? The guy on the bike? 1>0.

    I'm not saying it's an epidemic; but if I'm in the woods often, I'm going to be prepped. Being eaten alive is on the creep's priority list of things to avoid.
    That guy wasn't working unless I'm mistaken, so I'm still right

    U don't do as much field work anymore but still get out a few times a year alone and I fish alone all the time. I'm usually nervous when doing it and often joke about wearing a mask on the back of my head. I know many, many folks who are out there for 40ish hours a week though, and few who have ever seen one let alone had an encounter.

    One of my friends does solo owl calling at night. He is a private contractor and does carry a pistol. The one time he pulled it was for a bear that kept circling him. Scary shit.

    Cougars are well known for stalking and attacking individual dogs, wolves, and even young bears. The specialists I've talked to all agree that bringing a single dog with you, even a very large and/or vigilant one, increases your odds of being followed or even approached by a cougar.
    Are you related to Bob?

    Interesting point about the dog. You don't want to attract, but our senses are so fucking dull compared to theirs, I think on balance I'd rather take on some marginal degree of probability and decrease the likelihood significantly that I'll be jumped w/o warning, thus rendering my gun useless.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I don’t have to be faster than the Cougar. I just have to be faster than You.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,807 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    I have a few buddies who are timber cruisers. They worry about those things more than anything else, except for maybe weird people.

    All of them carry heat into the woods, and I don't blame them. They also take dogs with them if nothing else to give them a heads up. Those things are deadly af.

    I've regularly walked 1-5 miles at a time alone in the woods for work going back to the early 90s (thousands of miles by now) and have exactly one cougar encounter. It was on a short section of stream running right through a town. It ran away from me but still scared the shit out of me. I was, like everyone in my field of work, carrying a walking stick with an small hook on one end and a flimsy knife with no point and a dull, serrated blade.

    There are dozens, hundreds at times, of people out walking in the northwest woods alone for work every day, almost year round, with no dog or weapons (by policy). While the number of fatal or dangerous cougar encounters is rising quickly, it's still at zero.

    Dogs are nothing but cougar bait unless you have multiple noisy ones with you.
    Not sure I agree with you on that point. They hear and smell the thing long before you're in a position to say "oh shit, it's a cougar".

    And the guy who had his stomach eaten last May? The guy on the bike? 1>0.

    I'm not saying it's an epidemic; but if I'm in the woods often, I'm going to be prepped. Being eaten alive is on the creep's priority list of things to avoid.
    That guy wasn't working unless I'm mistaken, so I'm still right

    U don't do as much field work anymore but still get out a few times a year alone and I fish alone all the time. I'm usually nervous when doing it and often joke about wearing a mask on the back of my head. I know many, many folks who are out there for 40ish hours a week though, and few who have ever seen one let alone had an encounter.

    One of my friends does solo owl calling at night. He is a private contractor and does carry a pistol. The one time he pulled it was for a bear that kept circling him. Scary shit.

    Cougars are well known for stalking and attacking individual dogs, wolves, and even young bears. The specialists I've talked to all agree that bringing a single dog with you, even a very large and/or vigilant one, increases your odds of being followed or even approached by a cougar.
    Are you related to Bob?

    Interesting point about the dog. You don't want to attract, but our senses are so fucking dull compared to theirs, I think on balance I'd rather take on some marginal degree of probability and decrease the likelihood significantly that I'll be jumped w/o warning, thus rendering my gun useless.
    Bob? Maybe?

    Yeah I get your thinking. If you have a way to fight then any warning is helpful. Plus there's always the good chance that it's too busy killing your dog to bother with you, which is good too.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    MisterEm said:

    He is lucky it was just a little squirt. I work with CPW predator staff. Some of the big males they've collared are 2 hundo. In that region as well.

    I’m never hiking horsetooth again...