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Crenshaw gets smoked by Cortez

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  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    edited February 2019
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    She stupid and wrong...most if not all teams are owned as corporations that distribute revenues to the “owners” as dividends, so those distributions would be taxed as such and not as “income”...any that aren’t will be if something this dumb ever passes. It’s a dumb discussion because implementing it will just change how a bunch of people hide and get to their money...mainly will just give accounts and lawyers more work.

    The fact that a sitting Rep, most journalists, and a good chunk of society don’t understand this simple wrinkle in our tax code is pretty sad...

    Da fuq? I like how you talk like you know something when you don't.

    First, if AOC gets her way on the 70%, do you really think it'll be only earned income and would exclude realized investment income? How cute.

    Second, while the explosion of TV revenues and great collective bargaining skills against a weak Union have allowed NFL franchises to actually turn a profit. The majority of the owners don't make a sizable profit from the franchise. Their money is made in their bread and butter, whatever it is that made them wealthy.

    I do agree that most politicians, journalists, and our society don't understand the tax code.
    Go find where she is talking about taxing dividends at 70%...I can give you a long list where she talks about marginal tax rates at 70%:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/crenshaw-ocasio-cortez-trade-twitter-barbs-over-super-bowl
    https://morningconsult.com/2019/02/04/warrens-proposed-tax-on-wealthy-draws-more-support-than-ocasio-cortezs/
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ocasio-cortez-suggests-individual-tax-rates-as-high-as-70-2019-01-04
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/4/18168431/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-70-percent

    Or keep making shit up...

    Who cares how NFL teams make there money. Let's use the Patriots as an example...Robert Kraft is the "owner", but the team is actually owned by The Kraft Group LLC:
    https://www.thekraftgroup.com/

    They get the income from everything...stadium (where they make a good chunk of their money), licensing, etc. etc. You think they give Robert Kraft a $100MM salary, or do you thing they give him a nominal "salary" and distribute earning via dividends to the shareholders, of which is probably basically him and his family/kids.

    HondoFS...

    Did you read what I wrote or just see I disagreed and started your rebuttal?

    I know exactly what AOC has said. There's no full plan right now. If this goes thru Congress, they will probably include all income, not just earned income. I also don't think it'll be 70%. (All shit I've written in this thread)

    I also addressed your NFL question. Do you really think the money Kraft makes from the Patriots is significant to his overall income? He didn't start an NFL franchise and become a billionaire. It was the other way around.
    HondoFS...

    "There's no full plan right now"...nope, but she's out there saying marginal rates at 70%. Even HondoFS with his speed limit IQ realizes that is FS, so what does he do but is now "interpreting" what AOC means as really meaning she wants to up the dividend tax rate even though she is saying something different. Mind Reading is cool...

    You could just say AOC's ramblings are stupid but we really should do X, Y, or Z, but that would involve a little more IQ power than you currently have available...

    I linked to Kraft's page...he makes a ton of money from all sorts of things, but the amazing thing is that they are all in the Kraft Group portfolio. That's the structure he set up from the beginning to protect his tax rates before his NFL team started printing him money (but the stadium has generated a fortune for him over the long haul...). Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

    Holy cow...not a good start to the day for HondoFS...



  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    Swaye said:

    jecornel said:

    Her Twitter game is strong. That matters in America now. Fucking Twitter matters! Christ. Who cares what the argument is or if she is wrong. Her tweet had 170 thousand likes. That smashes the shit out yoda tweeter Trump. She comes off misinformed, doesn't seem to understand the concept of profit and why it's important you can't give shit away for free, but her tweeting game is strong. America is reduced to 140 characters of stupidity. She is a contender and people are listening to her.

    I loathe every position she has on everything, but you would have to be an idiot to see that she isn't going to be a real issue going forward. She is telegenic, and the MSM LOVES her. And the DNC feels it because she has provided cover, in conjunction with the media, for everyone to lurch left. It is brilliant, even if I hate it. It's funny, she received just shy of 16,000 votes, in a New York precinct. That means, in essence, less than 16,000 New Yorkers are now driving the national political convo. Crazy. She is basically an invented politician, elected by statistically nobody, and she is driving the national debate on Green Deals and Medicare for all and wealth redistribution. I have never seen anything like it. I still like her tits.

    The one thing I do like about her, besides her tits and ass, is the disruptor thing. Same thing I liked about Trump. I like a small part of anyone who shits in the establishment's cheerios, because the establishment hasn't had our best interests in mind in 200 years. FTG's.
    She’s also a fucking idiot, so there’s that!
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,204
    2001400ex said:

    She stupid and wrong...most if not all teams are owned as corporations that distribute revenues to the “owners” as dividends, so those distributions would be taxed as such and not as “income”...any that aren’t will be if something this dumb ever passes. It’s a dumb discussion because implementing it will just change how a bunch of people hide and get to their money...mainly will just give accounts and lawyers more work.

    The fact that a sitting Rep, most journalists, and a good chunk of society don’t understand this simple wrinkle in our tax code is pretty sad...

    Da fuq? I like how you talk like you know something when you don't.

    First, if AOC gets her way on the 70%, do you really think it'll be only earned income and would exclude realized investment income? How cute.

    Second, while the explosion of TV revenues and great collective bargaining skills against a weak Union have allowed NFL franchises to actually turn a profit. The majority of the owners don't make a sizable profit from the franchise. Their money is made in their bread and butter, whatever it is that made them wealthy.

    I do agree that most politicians, journalists, and our society don't understand the tax code.
    Do they think there is no difference between income and payroll taxes?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,204

    She stupid and wrong...most if not all teams are owned as corporations that distribute revenues to the “owners” as dividends, so those distributions would be taxed as such and not as “income”...any that aren’t will be if something this dumb ever passes. It’s a dumb discussion because implementing it will just change how a bunch of people hide and get to their money...mainly will just give accounts and lawyers more work.

    The fact that a sitting Rep, most journalists, and a good chunk of society don’t understand this simple wrinkle in our tax code is pretty sad...

    I really enjoy the life cycle of right wing arguments.

    Last week her idea was going to destroy America. This week it won’t make any difference at all.

    Y’all making this too easy.
    This is her only idea? Another brilliant straw-man argument...
    It's all they really have.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,156 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    jecornel said:

    Her Twitter game is strong. That matters in America now. Fucking Twitter matters! Christ. Who cares what the argument is or if she is wrong. Her tweet had 170 thousand likes. That smashes the shit out yoda tweeter Trump. She comes off misinformed, doesn't seem to understand the concept of profit and why it's important you can't give shit away for free, but her tweeting game is strong. America is reduced to 140 characters of stupidity. She is a contender and people are listening to her.




    I just look at her rack.

    Whatever she says is just like Charlie Brown's teacher talk after getting locked in on her chest. Same as with any other female.
    I read nothing you wrote. Barely knew there were even words there.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_BU5hR9gXE

    It's fucking magic.

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,842 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2019
    Let's face it the new democrats want 100%. 70% is just a starter rate.

    Forward comrades!
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    I never said she would destroy the republic I said the rich wouldn't pay so the will lower the definition of rich to get the money they know where to find, the middle class

    Same as it ever was

    It is true that if passed the rich may take their toys and LEAVE as the way to avoid it which leads to the destruction of the middle class and the end of all socialist paradises - wiping your ass with leaves

    Its like we have real world examples

    Tell them to say hi to Lena Dunham for me once they leave America. Oh right, this is the same thing every asshole without an argument always says. Blank is Hitler. Blank is going to leave. Same as it ever was.
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,712 Standard Supporter

    I never said she would destroy the republic I said the rich wouldn't pay so the will lower the definition of rich to get the money they know where to find, the middle class

    Same as it ever was

    It is true that if passed the rich may take their toys and LEAVE as the way to avoid it which leads to the destruction of the middle class and the end of all socialist paradises - wiping your ass with leaves

    Its like we have real world examples

    Tell them to say hi to Lena Dunham for me once they leave America. Oh right, this is the same thing every asshole without an argument always says. Blank is Hitler. Blank is going to leave. Same as it ever was.
    https://news.yahoo.com/cuomo-announces-2-3-billion-230018445.html
    The rich are leaving tax wise
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club

    I never said she would destroy the republic I said the rich wouldn't pay so the will lower the definition of rich to get the money they know where to find, the middle class

    Same as it ever was

    It is true that if passed the rich may take their toys and LEAVE as the way to avoid it which leads to the destruction of the middle class and the end of all socialist paradises - wiping your ass with leaves

    Its like we have real world examples

    Tell them to say hi to Lena Dunham for me once they leave America. Oh right, this is the same thing every asshole without an argument always says. Blank is Hitler. Blank is going to leave. Same as it ever was.
    It happens

    Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    AOC can smoke me anytime.
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