Julien Simon, 4* 2021 ATH, Tacoma (Lincoln), WA (Offered 6/22)
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AtomicDawg said:
The majority of the board was dialed in on this one.WoolleyDoog said:Yikes. Mark this one down in the category of sometimes the recruiting rankings don't mean shit.
Geevis_and_Butthead said:Top 150-ish nationally four-star prospect per 247 Sports and yet couldn't get on the field for USC's absolute shit defense.
LOL at 247's grade inflation for FSP/Heir
Yes, mark this one down as a the board being right. Also shows might point that some schools with take guys rated four star on 247 just for the ratings bump and buzz. -
At some point 24/7 is going to have to adjust how they view Washington state kids. Evaluating a kid and being 50/50 on your 4 and 5* players panning out seems like a poor long term business model. I feel there should be maybe 10 5* kids a year and another 50 legit 4* kids. The rest are varied assortments if 3*. Also, bring back the 2* as an actual evaluation. Making someone 3* because they take up the 25th spot in a class is stupid. If a kids a reach then call it.
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Recruiting rankings should reflect what type of expected impact a kid should have in the first year or two at a program.theknowledge said:At some point 24/7 is going to have to adjust how they view Washington state kids. Evaluating a kid and being 50/50 on your 4 and 5* players panning out seems like a poor long term business model. I feel there should be maybe 10 5* kids a year and another 50 legit 4* kids. The rest are varied assortments if 3*. Also, bring back the 2* as an actual evaluation. Making someone 3* because they take up the 25th spot in a class is stupid. If a kids a reach then call it.
Right now, they're attempting to project NFL draft status, but that's stupid since that's more dependent on coaching and training. It doesn't make sense for 99% of people who follow recruiting.
Too bad the whole recruiting industry is drunk on star chinflation and hyping up 1000 kids a year -
Checked to see the QB in front of Huard in his class and it was Quinn Ewers with the highest rank ever. He was given a perfect 1.000
Now he's 0-1 vs. UW. -
Huard 1 Ewers 0Doogles said:Checked to see the QB in front of Huard in his class and it was Quinn Ewers with the highest rank ever. He was given a perfect 1.000
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Wasn't Caleb Williams ahead of Huard? And then Ewers became the #1 when he reclassified?Doogles said:Checked to see the QB in front of Huard in his class and it was Quinn Ewers with the highest rank ever. He was given a perfect 1.000
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I'm pretty sure Ty Thompson was ranked ahead of him in the end, at least on one if the servicesDoogerMcFarland said:
Wasn't Caleb Williams ahead of Huard? And then Ewers became the #1 when he reclassified?Doogles said:Checked to see the QB in front of Huard in his class and it was Quinn Ewers with the highest rank ever. He was given a perfect 1.000
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I think the NFL Draft status thing is a cop out to rationalize bad evaluations. How could Sam Huard be a high 5 star based on Draft projection coming out.whatshouldicareabout said:
Recruiting rankings should reflect what type of expected impact a kid should have in the first year or two at a program.theknowledge said:At some point 24/7 is going to have to adjust how they view Washington state kids. Evaluating a kid and being 50/50 on your 4 and 5* players panning out seems like a poor long term business model. I feel there should be maybe 10 5* kids a year and another 50 legit 4* kids. The rest are varied assortments if 3*. Also, bring back the 2* as an actual evaluation. Making someone 3* because they take up the 25th spot in a class is stupid. If a kids a reach then call it.
Right now, they're attempting to project NFL draft status, but that's stupid since that's more dependent on coaching and training. It doesn't make sense for 99% of people who follow recruiting.
Too bad the whole recruiting industry is drunk on star chinflation and hyping up 1000 kids a year
There's some obvious flaws in their system that are pretty blatant.
-Kids who pop really early in their high school careers or have one good camp, and get put into the system and then it's hard for 247 to shit on a kid and drop him too far. I feel like there are always 1-3 guys like this in WA each year.
-Kids who are in with groups like FSP.
-There's too many four stars. Too many kids who are four stars who it's clear only like one legit program wants.
-Kids who aren't in certain cities/areas not getting enough of a high rating - Jake Locker not being a 5* Rapp, Otton and Trey Adams being lower rated seem like fits too -
And then there was Top 5 NFL pick James Atoe who somehow was not a 5*
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The top 10 from that class has had...DoogerMcFarland said:
Wasn't Caleb Williams ahead of Huard? And then Ewers became the #1 when he reclassified?Doogles said:Checked to see the QB in front of Huard in his class and it was Quinn Ewers with the highest rank ever. He was given a perfect 1.000
Now he's 0-1 vs. UW.
-3 hits: Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, Drake Maye
-2 meh: Quinn Ewers, Jaxson Dart
-5 ??? who haven't earned real playing time: Huard, Vandagriff (UGA), McCord (OSU), Thompson (UO), Garcia (MIA)
