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Elizabeth Warren proposes 'wealth tax' on Americans with more than $50 million in assets
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It's unfortunate you didn't get that benefitHHusky said:Fenderbender123 said:
"capitalism"HHusky said:
The state just withers away under capitalism, of course. Dyslexic Maxr told me.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Fun fact, Ancaps and Ansocs can actually live together in a free and tolerant society.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is called voluntary socialism. The fact that it doesn't work and you aren't willing to do it tells you everything you need to know about why state socialism is theft and doesn't work.HHusky said:I suppose I could volunteer to pay taxes not due, but I’ve never ever argued anyone should do that.
Or you know, you could just donate to the poor and needy directly if you feel they need help instead of relying on the government to take 40% off the top.
Keep blaming "other people" though I guess.
It's only because of the failure of socialism that socialists have to use the force of government to push their system on the rest of society.
one of those terms that gets thrown around a lot where everyone has a different idea as to what it means.
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Not one of you has answered the question of how people are entitled to other peoples money!
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Fucking christ, who talks like thisUW_Doog_Bot said:
[Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern:[2]HHusky said:
The state just withers away under capitalism(TU QUOQUE), of course. Dyslexic Maxr told me.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Fun fact, Ancaps and Ansocs can actually live together in a free and tolerant society.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is called voluntary socialism. The fact that it doesn't work and you aren't willing to do it tells you everything you need to know about why state socialism is theft and doesn't work.HHusky said:I suppose I could volunteer to pay taxes not due, but I’ve never ever argued anyone should do that.
Or you know, you could just donate to the poor and needy directly if you feel they need help instead of relying on the government to take 40% off the top.
Keep blaming "other people" though I guess.
It's only because of the failure of socialism that socialists have to use the force of government to push their system on the rest of society.- Person A makes claim X.
- Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
- Therefore, X is false.
Peter: "Bill is guilty of defrauding the government out of tax dollars."
Bill: "How can you say that when you yourself have 20 outstanding parking tickets?"
It is a fallacy because the moral character or actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument.[3] It is often used as a red herring tactic and is a special case of the ad hominem fallacy, which is a category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of facts about the person presenting or supporting the claim or argument.[4]
Example
In the trial of Nazi criminal Klaus Barbie, the controversial lawyer Jacques Vergès tried to present what was defined as a Tu Quoque Defence—i.e., that during the Algerian War, French officers such as General Jacques Massu had committed war crimes similar to those with which Barbie was being charged, and therefore the French state had no moral right to try Barbie. This defense was rejected by the court, which convicted Barbie.[5]]
In keeping with your theme, this is also a fallacious argument. Be a better poaster. - Person A makes claim X.
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So no taxes ever, Sled?Sledog said:Not one of you has answered the question of how people are entitled to other peoples money!
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"Fucking christ, who talks like this"
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This could be the best advice I've seen given here. Ever.RaceBannon said:
Start telling people to fuck off thenFenderbender123 said:
I don't know...What are you guys talking about? I'm just trying to fit in.GrundleStiltzkin said:
What?Fenderbender123 said:I never understood the argument that if we lived in a stateless society that people would just reestablish the state or that some group of people would assume power. If we got serious enough about deconstructing centralized power to where we literally establish a stateless society, why would we be powerless to prevent a new one from forming?
Race Fucking Bannon, ladies and gentlemen.
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I’m hearing that people spend more domestically when they don’t have to pay as much tax.HHusky said:
Disincentives to consume domestically are a really awful idea. Particularly now.Fenderbender123 said:I don't see how you can say it's raising or lowering anyone's taxes. Want to pay more taxes? Spend more money. Want to pay less? Spend less. Wow!!!
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Unfortunately, our experience shows you’re incorrect, at least as to those who received significant tax cuts.salemcoog said:
I’m hearing that people spend more domestically when they don’t have to pay as much tax.HHusky said:
Disincentives to consume domestically are a really awful idea. Particularly now.Fenderbender123 said:I don't see how you can say it's raising or lowering anyone's taxes. Want to pay more taxes? Spend more money. Want to pay less? Spend less. Wow!!!
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Wealth inequality will decline when the stock market goes in the tank. More tax reform would help a little as well.
But to confiscate someone's property (assets) is crazy and would have loads of unintended consequences. Bezos would likely give up his American citizenship and move elsewhere instead of give up billions upon billions of his net worth each year. -
Significant by rate or amount paid?HHusky said:
Unfortunately, our experience shows you’re incorrect, at least as to those who received significant tax cuts.salemcoog said:
I’m hearing that people spend more domestically when they don’t have to pay as much tax.HHusky said:
Disincentives to consume domestically are a really awful idea. Particularly now.Fenderbender123 said:I don't see how you can say it's raising or lowering anyone's taxes. Want to pay more taxes? Spend more money. Want to pay less? Spend less. Wow!!!
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