Airlines Say They’re Close to a ‘Tipping Point’ Due to the Shutdown

I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

“We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”

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MikeDamone

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

RaceBannon

Friday is tomorrow. A day early and still a dollar short

allpurpleallgold

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?

PurpleThrobber

https://guyjest.com/stewardess-makes-a-cool-million-bonking-passengers/

The Throbber is available to avert any potential slowdown in the airline industry.

MikeDamone

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?
I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?

A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.

GrundleStiltzkin

I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

“We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”

This sounds like a problem. It should be fixed.

Pitchfork51

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?
I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?
A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.

https://guyjest.com/stewardess-makes-a-cool-million-bonking-passengers/

The Throbber is available to avert any potential slowdown in the airline industry.

Throbber 202
Plus purple is red and blue but also makes women and gays feel okay.

allpurpleallgold

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?
I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?
A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.

But a private business isn’t responsible for providing their own security. If you own a store and that store gets robbed you can call the police. I’m assuming you’re not against that. It’s not preventative the way TSA is but simply having a police force on the ground is a form of prevention. And given that we can’t police the sky the same way we police the ground and the massive threat that air travel can be (see 9/11), preventative seems like to best option to me.

You seem focused on the private business aspect of this but to me your stance means American citizens have to forfeit their right to be protected from others in order to fly. In fact, I would argue making air travel security the responsibility of the airlines takes that right away from all Americans. Again, see 9/11.

I’m trying to get your position. I will be honest I’ve understood this to be the libertarian position for awhile, always thought it sounded dumb, because it’s libertarian, but I’ve never really thought it through. I’m not going to agree with it but I’m having a hard time even making sense of it.

MikeDamone

The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?
I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?
A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.
But a private business isn’t responsible for providing their own security. If you own a store and that store gets robbed you can call the police. I’m assuming you’re not against that. It’s not preventative the way TSA is but simply having a police force on the ground is a form of prevention. And given that we can’t police the sky the same way we police the ground and the massive threat that air travel can be (see 9/11), preventative seems like to best option to me.

You seem focused on the private business aspect of this but to me your stance means American citizens have to forfeit their right to be protected from others in order to fly. In fact, I would argue making air travel security the responsibility of the airlines takes that right away from all Americans. Again, see 9/11.

I’m trying to get your position. I will be honest I’ve understood this to be the libertarian position for awhile, always thought it sounded dumb, because it’s libertarian, but I’ve never really thought it through. I’m not going to agree with it but I’m having a hard time even making sense of it.

If the airline gets robbed, they can call the police. If a store (or stripclub) wants security who check every person who enters the building, they pay for their own security.

Airlines have no interest in allowing crimes to be committed while using their service and poor security would likely put them out of business. Without the current “system” they would replace it with one they control and pay for. Just my opinion.

RoadTrip

I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

“We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”

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