Harbaugh /thread
Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G. At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now.
Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G. At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now. Notre Dame might not suck.
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska.
Joel Katt had Michigan in the CFP after they beat NebraskaLike our DAWGS the UM stats work better against the bad teams they playPann State and Ohio State will tell the tale. He CAN'T lose to MSU this year
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska. Which is really the kiss of deaf: when your fan base doesn't really care.That's why the single most important factor in UW's turnaround was the REFUSAL of the base that remembered DJ and Husky Tuff! football to cave into "Yeah, but we're an academis school now" tolerance for shit football.The fact that Todd Turdner was rejected for trying that shit was what gave Washington hope. There was a Trump-like reaction to the increasingly soft af, "soccer is great, Seattle has more PhDs than you do" crowd at UW that didn't give a shit where the medical school was ranked or that the Husky women's softball team won the title. We want football to win now damn it. W/o that you have no new stadium and you have no Peterman.If Michigan cares moar about the Ross School of Bidness than winning the big gayme, then they are forever sunk and will never win with any consistency ever again.Tell me I'm wrong.
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska. Which is really the kiss of deaf: when your fan base doesn't really care.That's why the single most important factor in UW's turnaround was the REFUSAL of the base that remembered DJ and Husky Tuff! football to cave into "Yeah, but we're an academis school now" tolerance for shit football.The fact that Todd Turdner was rejected for trying that shit was what gave Washington hope. There was a Trump-like reaction to the increasingly soft af, "soccer is great, Seattle has more PhDs than you do" crowd at UW that didn't give a shit where the medical school was ranked or that the Husky women's softball team won the title. We want football to win now damn it. W/o that you have no new stadium and you have no Peterman.If Michigan cares moar about the Ross School of Bidness than winning the big gayme, then they are forever sunk and will never win with any consistency ever again.Tell me I'm wrong. As the smartest poaster on our boreds @AUBURNTROJAN would say, Michigan, still has it in terms of MONEY, TRADITION, and LOCATION. Therefore as long as the institution still thinks and cares about football they will be OK in the long run. But as we know, it's better to be lucky than good some tims. The Harbaugh hire is proof the school cares about competing for titles and should have been a slam dunk. Bad luck here and the Urban Meyer factor. Petersen saved UW football, but we also benefitted from some extremely good fortune in our rapid ascent back to relevance- i.e., Helfrich, Sark, Clay Helton, etc.
They'll be fine Creep. Legacy program with better access to 'croots than Nebraska. Which is really the kiss of deaf: when your fan base doesn't really care.That's why the single most important factor in UW's turnaround was the REFUSAL of the base that remembered DJ and Husky Tuff! football to cave into "Yeah, but we're an academis school now" tolerance for shit football.The fact that Todd Turdner was rejected for trying that shit was what gave Washington hope. There was a Trump-like reaction to the increasingly soft af, "soccer is great, Seattle has more PhDs than you do" crowd at UW that didn't give a shit where the medical school was ranked or that the Husky women's softball team won the title. We want football to win now damn it. W/o that you have no new stadium and you have no Peterman.If Michigan cares moar about the Ross School of Bidness than winning the big gayme, then they are forever sunk and will never win with any consistency ever again.Tell me I'm wrong. As the smartest poaster on our boreds @AUBURNTROJAN would say, Michigan, still has it in terms of MONEY, TRADITION, and LOCATION. Therefore as long as the institution still thinks and cares about football they will be OK in the long run. But as we know, it's better to be lucky than good some tims. The Harbaugh hire is proof the school cares about competing for titles and should have been a slam dunk. Bad luck here and the Urban Meyer factor. Petersen saved UW football, but we also benefitted from some extremely good fortune in our rapid ascent back to relevance- i.e., Helfrich, Sark, Clay Helton, etc. strong poast, strong poaster.
Michigan location sucks they need national recruits to have any hope of success. Who even in Michigan would want to go there over Ohio State? National recruits who care about academics it probably their most hopeful angle, but who would want to go there over Stanford or Notre Dame? Who would want to play for that creepy freak? I look forward to watching that program turn into Cal over the next few decades.
Womp. Christ.Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar.
Womp. Christ.Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar. Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them. Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck.
Womp. Christ.Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar. Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them. Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck. Facilities are overrated. I thought you were a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!My Canes could win 5 in a row with a rented stadium 45 minutes from campus if the right coach showed up.hThMichigan has been filling that place forever. The fact that they keep doing it is evidence that (1) there's not a damn other thing to do in Michigan and (2) they'll never be back.Why should they? They keep selling out, selling T-shirts and selling blue sky to DAWGs like you.
Womp. Christ.Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar. Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them. Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck. Facilities are overrated. I thought you were a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!My Canes could win 5 in a row with a rented stadium 45 minutes from campus if the right coach showed up.hThMichigan has been filling that place forever. The fact that they keep doing it is evidence that (1) there's not a damn other thing to do in Michigan and (2) they'll never be back.Why should they? They keep selling out, selling T-shirts and selling blue sky to DAWGs like you. Axe Oregon or Okie St if facilities are overrated. The two national power, renta-stadium schools both happen to be located within 60 mins of enuff talent to stock the shelves at multiple elite programs. Miami's rise as a national power in college football is a very unique story. UW would be Pitt if we had gone to the renta-stadium model.
Womp. Christ.Ohio State, LSU, Bama, USC (historically), Miami, Florida State, most of the SEC don't have money. Texas, ND, Stanford, Michigan and Northwestern have $$. I'm not seeing the importance of that variable.Location. Many programs are in much better locations nearer to fertile recruiting grounds.Tradition. That's the point of my poast. Only lasts so long. As evidenced by Michigan's drought.That's a lot of ifs in your poast. My aunt and my uncle are different people. Nuff said on that.He didnt' whip anybody. He was gifted a title on a bad call.Really disappointed in your effert here. I've come to expect moar. Jeeze Loueze, don't get yer panties in a bunch about 2002. Everyone knows if they played that game 20 tims, Miami win 19 of them. Look, Kreep, I know you're a philosopher king and all and better at academis than me, but sometims I don't know if you understand the MONEY part of this. It's not how much money the chinstitution or the cumulative net worth of the alumni. Rather, it's about how much money can the athletic dept throw at getting the best corches and spending on facilities. The Kewgs have an endowment that is quite a bit larger than the University of Alabama but they are a pour in the world of college sports and Bamma is rich as fuck. Facilities are overrated. I thought you were a DAWG!!!!!!!!!!My Canes could win 5 in a row with a rented stadium 45 minutes from campus if the right coach showed up.hThMichigan has been filling that place forever. The fact that they keep doing it is evidence that (1) there's not a damn other thing to do in Michigan and (2) they'll never be back.Why should they? They keep selling out, selling T-shirts and selling blue sky to DAWGs like you. This is stupid. There are plenty of factions within Michigan's fanbase and donor base just like any other fanbase. Probably more factions because there is a split over what it means to be a "Michigan Man" (Bo said something about a Michigan Man should always coach Michigan.)They pushed out a national title winner who won 11 games and went to the Rose Bowl in his second to last year (Carr.)They also pushed out the next guy who was brought in to modernize Michigan football after giving him just 3 years (Rich Rod.)As a result of those two possible premature firings Hoke probably got a year too many.But Harbaugh too will be on the hot seat when its deserved. Its not yet.
Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G. At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now. Notre Dame might not suck. True, despite Brian Kelly and Brian Kelly's best efforts.I would also point out that the Michigan defense tightened up after giving up TDs on 3 of the first 4 drives against ND. The first two drives were aided by 15 yard personal fouls and the third was twice extended by penalties on failed 3rd downs. There were a few big pass plays allowed there but for the game Notre Dame only averaged 4.4 yards per play. Only 2.8 on the ground.I know these statistics go against the popular Michigan sucks narrative but on the season Michigan is easily leading the nation at just 3.4 yards per play allowed (UW allowing 4.2) Since going down 21-3 four drives into the season against ND they've allowed just 10 plays over 15 yards in 4.5+ games (6 pass, 4 rush.)
Michigan is never coming back until (if) tOSU massively fucks up (as well as Penn for that matter).This off-season showed us tOSU has no intention of fucking up.
Their defense was so fucking good coming into this season. I thought they'd be best in the country. Two elite corners in Long and Lavert Hill, and Hill was the highest graded PFF returning DB in the country. Third DB, Brandon Watson, is a 5th-year senior, with 38 games under his belt coming into this year. Ambry Thomas looked great as a freshman last year. The safeties, Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, were both alright, and Metellus was honorable mention All-B1G. At linebacker they had a preseason all-American in Devin Bush, and a returning all-B1G player in Khaleke Hudson (who plays the Jabrill Peppers "viper" position). Then there was Josh Ross, Devin Gil, and Drew Singleton fighting for the third spot. Their linebackers looked fucking great.Then on the line, at SDE and WDE respectively they have Rashan fucking Gary (no explanation needed) and Chase Winovich, who had 8 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss last season. Then at DT there's Aubrey fucking Solomon and Michael Dwumfour, who kicked ass all spring. Their backup DE's are also excellent.They legitimately have 2 top tier guys at each defensive group, and they still gave up 9,000 points to Notre Dame. That's on the coach. That defense should be tops in the country. Harbaugh should be in a much hotter seat than he is right now. Notre Dame might not suck. True, despite Brian Kelly and Brian Kelly's best efforts.I would also point out that the Michigan defense tightened up after giving up TDs on 3 of the first 4 drives against ND. The first two drives were aided by 15 yard personal fouls and the third was twice extended by penalties on failed 3rd downs. There were a few big pass plays allowed there but for the game Notre Dame only averaged 4.4 yards per play. Only 2.8 on the ground.I know these statistics go against the popular Michigan sucks narrative but on the season Michigan is easily leading the nation at just 3.4 yards per play allowed (UW allowing 4.2) Since going down 21-3 four drives into the season against ND they've allowed just 10 plays over 15 yards in 4.5+ games (6 pass, 4 rush.) Michigan just played a nail biter with Northwestern.
