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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    The second investigation was political. The fact that it resulted in a bad charge doesn't bother leftards who favor political charges. Zimmerman instigated nothing.

    That's because the left believes in political prosecutions. It's what they are trying to do to Kavanaugh right now. The right will use the death of someone who is killed by an illegal in order to push their agenda against illegal immigration. The left will happily prosecute an innocent person in order to advance their political objectives.
    Investigations into emails and Benghazi laugh at this post.
    Who was the innocent person they were trying to prosecute? Let the Kunt act begin!!!!
    We there any charges? Yeah no.

    I can't tell you how much it stings being called dumb by a Kunt who just wrote that.

    So your agree that you are a hypocrite. Supporting the Benghazi and email political investigations.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,277
    When Sledog does this, I know it's the expression of intellectual limitations. What's your drive here?

    I didn't say I "knew" Zimmerman did anything. I said, a lot, that (1) we had no evidence that Martin started the fight, (2) the fact that he was winning the fight did not mean, ergo, that he started it, and (3) that the evidence we did have was that Zimmerman (a) was following/tracking/stalking (pick your word) him with a purpose expressed in the taped call, (b) was in an agitated state (taped call) and had already concluded (taped call) the kid had done something wrong with no evidence to support the conclusion other than profile, and (c) left his vehicle and gave chase, thereby clearly escalating the situation and increasing his own agitation and likely Trayvon's.

    For normal, rational and well-adjusted people, the same act done in varying contexts produces varying results. Understanding those differences is one of the ways we separate smart people from stupid people. If when I go out to lunch in a moment some guy is walking behind me, it won't be a big deal. If I wind up walking quite a bit and he is behind me after every turn, then I might think he's following me and, if so, I'll be aware of it and on some level bothered by it and perhaps feel threatened. If I run to get away from him and he starts chasing me, then I'll definitely know I have a problem. From that point on, anything can happen.

    Some guy, who as @TurdBuffer noted, could be a perv or some other person who means him harm, is following a black kid in Seminole County, at night, in a car and then GETS OUT OF THE CAR and starts chasing him.

    If you think that is the same as the first stage of my hypothetical experience, you are as dumb as Sledog. But I think you know they are very different. Mysteriously (or not), you try and equate them as if you can't appreciate the difference.

    This isn't a commentary on the police or the jury who bought Z's version. Those are separate discussions. As I said elsewhere, Z was in the right place for this to happen. The problem with this case has always been with the lack of witnesses at the key moment. Legally, if there had been evidence that Zimmerman started the altercation (an entirely plausible scenario in these facts), the fact that he was getting his ass kicked would not have justified his use of lethal force. In other words, if you commit felony assault, you can't claim self-defense later, any more than you can claim self-defense by shooting a homeowner during a break-in to prevent them from shooting you. Felony murder rule.

    If on some level Zimmerman's actions don't bother you, then you cannot have a civil libertarian bone in your body. You get to walk around and mind your own business free of assault or threat. If the left's subsequent politicization of it is all you can mentally absorb, then you are a one-track minded sheep.



  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    When Sledog does this, I know it's the expression of intellectual limitations. What's your drive here?

    I didn't say I "knew" Zimmerman did anything. I said, a lot, that (1) we had no evidence that Martin started the fight, (2) the fact that he was winning the fight did not mean, ergo, that he started it, and (3) that the evidence we did have was that Zimmerman (a) was following/tracking/stalking (pick your word) him with a purpose expressed in the taped call, (b) was in an agitated state (taped call) and had already concluded (taped call) the kid had done something wrong with no evidence to support the conclusion other than profile, and (c) left his vehicle and gave chase, thereby clearly escalating the situation and increasing his own agitation and likely Trayvon's.

    For normal, rational and well-adjusted people, the same act done in varying contexts produces varying results. Understanding those differences is one of the ways we separate smart people from stupid people. If when I go out to lunch in a moment some guy is walking behind me, it won't be a big deal. If I wind up walking quite a bit and he is behind me after every turn, then I might think he's following me and, if so, I'll be aware of it and on some level bothered by it and perhaps feel threatened. If I run to get away from him and he starts chasing me, then I'll definitely know I have a problem. From that point on, anything can happen.

    Some guy, who as @TurdBuffer noted, could be a perv or some other person who means him harm, is following a black kid in Seminole County, at night, in a car and then GETS OUT OF THE CAR and starts chasing him.

    If you think that is the same as the first stage of my hypothetical experience, you are as dumb as Sledog. But I think you know they are very different. Mysteriously (or not), you try and equate them as if you can't appreciate the difference.

    This isn't a commentary on the police or the jury who bought Z's version. Those are separate discussions. As I said elsewhere, Z was in the right place for this to happen. The problem with this case has always been with the lack of witnesses at the key moment. Legally, if there had been evidence that Zimmerman started the altercation (an entirely plausible scenario in these facts), the fact that he was getting his ass kicked would not have justified his use of lethal force. In other words, if you commit felony assault, you can't claim self-defense later, any more than you can claim self-defense by shooting a homeowner during a break-in to prevent them from shooting you. Felony murder rule.

    If on some level Zimmerman's actions don't bother you, then you cannot have a civil libertarian bone in your body. You get to walk around and mind your own business free of assault or threat. If the left's subsequent politicization of it is all you can mentally absorb, then you are a one-track minded sheep.



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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:



    Btw, lets get you on the record in order to establish just how stupid and ignorant you are Hondo. Are you claiming the photos I posted aren't Trademark?

    Let's get you on record with a precise and readable reason why a 17-year old kid from Miami Gardens acting like a thug - in this case, meaning smoking weed, vandalism, a few altercations at school and acting the part on social media - is somehow germane to this case?

    Zimmerman was acquitted.

    Politically-motivated people politicize (you know, not all immigrants, illegal or otherwise, are rapey).

    What is the obsession with showing Treyvon is the most thug light as possible? Why do you so desperately cling to this point? No matter what, George didn't see any of that on the night in question.

    Rather, he saw a black kid he didn't know walking around after dark. That. Is. It. He didn't see suspicious behavior. He didn't see a gun. He didn't behavior suggestive of an intent to rob or vandalize. He saw a walker.

    So, let's get you on record for why any of that matters?

    The issue was about the images the media chose in order show pictures of Zimmerman and pictures of Trademark. Do you agree with Hondo that the images I posted of Trademark could be fake?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    The second investigation was political. The fact that it resulted in a bad charge doesn't bother leftards who favor political charges. Zimmerman instigated nothing.

    That's because the left believes in political prosecutions. It's what they are trying to do to Kavanaugh right now. The right will use the death of someone who is killed by an illegal in order to push their agenda against illegal immigration. The left will happily prosecute an innocent person in order to advance their political objectives.
    Investigations into emails and Benghazi laugh at this post.
    Who was the innocent person they were trying to prosecute? Let the Kunt act begin!!!!
    We there any charges? Yeah no.

    I can't tell you how much it stings being called dumb by a Kunt who just wrote that.

    So your agree that you are a hypocrite. Supporting the Benghazi and email political investigations.
    Yeah I believe I agreed to that right after you agreed that you're a pig fucker. Other than being a troll and a Kunt what is your purpose here Hondo?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    Btw, lets get you on the record in order to establish just how stupid and ignorant you are Hondo. Are you claiming the photos I posted aren't Trademark?

    Let's get you on record with a precise and readable reason why a 17-year old kid from Miami Gardens acting like a thug - in this case, meaning smoking weed, vandalism, a few altercations at school and acting the part on social media - is somehow germane to this case?

    Zimmerman was acquitted.

    Politically-motivated people politicize (you know, not all immigrants, illegal or otherwise, are rapey).

    What is the obsession with showing Treyvon is the most thug light as possible? Why do you so desperately cling to this point? No matter what, George didn't see any of that on the night in question.

    Rather, he saw a black kid he didn't know walking around after dark. That. Is. It. He didn't see suspicious behavior. He didn't see a gun. He didn't behavior suggestive of an intent to rob or vandalize. He saw a walker.

    So, let's get you on record for why any of that matters?

    The issue was about the images the media chose in order show pictures of Zimmerman and pictures of Trademark. Do you agree with Hondo that the images I posted of Trademark could be fake?
    I just asked for a link. Which you haven't provided. (And I've already done my research. But keep coming to conclusions about shit I didn't say).
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    When Sledog does this, I know it's the expression of intellectual limitations. What's your drive here?

    I didn't say I "knew" Zimmerman did anything. I said, a lot, that (1) we had no evidence that Martin started the fight, (2) the fact that he was winning the fight did not mean, ergo, that he started it, and (3) that the evidence we did have was that Zimmerman (a) was following/tracking/stalking (pick your word) him with a purpose expressed in the taped call, (b) was in an agitated state (taped call) and had already concluded (taped call) the kid had done something wrong with no evidence to support the conclusion other than profile, and (c) left his vehicle and gave chase, thereby clearly escalating the situation and increasing his own agitation and likely Trayvon's.

    For normal, rational and well-adjusted people, the same act done in varying contexts produces varying results. Understanding those differences is one of the ways we separate smart people from stupid people. If when I go out to lunch in a moment some guy is walking behind me, it won't be a big deal. If I wind up walking quite a bit and he is behind me after every turn, then I might think he's following me and, if so, I'll be aware of it and on some level bothered by it and perhaps feel threatened. If I run to get away from him and he starts chasing me, then I'll definitely know I have a problem. From that point on, anything can happen.

    Some guy, who as @TurdBuffer noted, could be a perv or some other person who means him harm, is following a black kid in Seminole County, at night, in a car and then GETS OUT OF THE CAR and starts chasing him.

    If you think that is the same as the first stage of my hypothetical experience, you are as dumb as Sledog. But I think you know they are very different. Mysteriously (or not), you try and equate them as if you can't appreciate the difference.

    This isn't a commentary on the police or the jury who bought Z's version. Those are separate discussions. As I said elsewhere, Z was in the right place for this to happen. The problem with this case has always been with the lack of witnesses at the key moment. Legally, if there had been evidence that Zimmerman started the altercation (an entirely plausible scenario in these facts), the fact that he was getting his ass kicked would not have justified his use of lethal force. In other words, if you commit felony assault, you can't claim self-defense later, any more than you can claim self-defense by shooting a homeowner during a break-in to prevent them from shooting you. Felony murder rule.

    If on some level Zimmerman's actions don't bother you, then you cannot have a civil libertarian bone in your body. You get to walk around and mind your own business free of assault or threat. If the left's subsequent politicization of it is all you can mentally absorb, then you are a one-track minded sheep.



    Hey Coug detail for us your evidence that Zimmerman started the fight. I don't want your conjecture, I want solid evidence that points to Zimmerman being the person who started the fight. And no, following someone in public isn't grounds for the person being followed to attack the other person.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    Btw, lets get you on the record in order to establish just how stupid and ignorant you are Hondo. Are you claiming the photos I posted aren't Trademark?

    Let's get you on record with a precise and readable reason why a 17-year old kid from Miami Gardens acting like a thug - in this case, meaning smoking weed, vandalism, a few altercations at school and acting the part on social media - is somehow germane to this case?

    Zimmerman was acquitted.

    Politically-motivated people politicize (you know, not all immigrants, illegal or otherwise, are rapey).

    What is the obsession with showing Treyvon is the most thug light as possible? Why do you so desperately cling to this point? No matter what, George didn't see any of that on the night in question.

    Rather, he saw a black kid he didn't know walking around after dark. That. Is. It. He didn't see suspicious behavior. He didn't see a gun. He didn't behavior suggestive of an intent to rob or vandalize. He saw a walker.

    So, let's get you on record for why any of that matters?

    The issue was about the images the media chose in order show pictures of Zimmerman and pictures of Trademark. Do you agree with Hondo that the images I posted of Trademark could be fake?
    I just asked for a link. Which you haven't provided. (And I've already done my research. But keep coming to conclusions about shit I didn't say).
    Stupid people make for very bad liars Hondo.

    First are you sure those are Authentic.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    The second investigation was political. The fact that it resulted in a bad charge doesn't bother leftards who favor political charges. Zimmerman instigated nothing.

    That's because the left believes in political prosecutions. It's what they are trying to do to Kavanaugh right now. The right will use the death of someone who is killed by an illegal in order to push their agenda against illegal immigration. The left will happily prosecute an innocent person in order to advance their political objectives.


    Suffice it to say the Right is mightily forgetful. And hypocritical.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    The second investigation was political. The fact that it resulted in a bad charge doesn't bother leftards who favor political charges. Zimmerman instigated nothing.

    That's because the left believes in political prosecutions. It's what they are trying to do to Kavanaugh right now. The right will use the death of someone who is killed by an illegal in order to push their agenda against illegal immigration. The left will happily prosecute an innocent person in order to advance their political objectives.


    Suffice it to say the Right is mightily forgetful. And hypocritical.
    Who is the innocent person that was being prosecuted in that case?