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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,693 Founders Club

    By today a casual observer would think that it was Urban who smacked his wife

    The shit heel who did it is forgotten

    As much as I'd like to see Ohio State lose this guy before they can rack up another couple of titles, I think the guy is arguably the best corch in the country (yes, including Saban) and I agree with the idea that you can't hang a coach over every bad thing people do in the organization on their own time.

    Rule violations and bad behavior w/in the organization, especially when it's recurring, is another matter. But this is a little much for me. Sure, if I'd known a guy on my staff were beating his wife, whether or not she's batshit, he'd have to commit to not doing it again and get counseling or LEAVE. But we don't know what Urbs may or may not have said, what he may or may not have known and, more importantly, believed.

    It's a fine line putting your nose where it doesn't belong and doing the right thing. It's not always clear what to do in the moment.

    Challenge, however, in a circumstance like this with Urbs is he has a bit of past.
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,381 Founders Club

    By today a casual observer would think that it was Urban who smacked his wife

    The shit heel who did it is forgotten

    As much as I'd like to see Ohio State lose this guy before they can rack up another couple of titles, I think the guy is arguably the best corch in the country (yes, including Saban) and I agree with the idea that you can't hang a coach over every bad thing people do in the organization on their own time.

    Rule violations and bad behavior w/in the organization, especially when it's recurring, is another matter. But this is a little much for me. Sure, if I'd known a guy on my staff were beating his wife, whether or not she's batshit, he'd have to commit to not doing it again and get counseling or LEAVE. But we don't know what Urbs may or may not have said, what he may or may not have known and, more importantly, believed.

    It's a fine line putting your nose where it doesn't belong and doing the right thing. It's not always clear what to do in the moment.

    You know, except for when it's explicitly in your contract.

  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited August 2018
    Sources said:

    By today a casual observer would think that it was Urban who smacked his wife

    The shit heel who did it is forgotten

    As much as I'd like to see Ohio State lose this guy before they can rack up another couple of titles, I think the guy is arguably the best corch in the country (yes, including Saban) and I agree with the idea that you can't hang a coach over every bad thing people do in the organization on their own time.

    Rule violations and bad behavior w/in the organization, especially when it's recurring, is another matter. But this is a little much for me. Sure, if I'd known a guy on my staff were beating his wife, whether or not she's batshit, he'd have to commit to not doing it again and get counseling or LEAVE. But we don't know what Urbs may or may not have said, what he may or may not have known and, more importantly, believed.

    It's a fine line putting your nose where it doesn't belong and doing the right thing. It's not always clear what to do in the moment.

    You know, except for when it's explicitly in your contract.

    If the Bucks do can him, they’ll be subject to suit. @creepycoug, what think you? That the clause would hold up in court??!
  • SyphilisButter
    SyphilisButter Member Posts: 221
    more than just the title ix stuff and other contract red tape you have the #metoo movement sweeping through college campuses like yersinia pestis. there will be tons of political pressure to set an example and shitcan him
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,544 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    By today a casual observer would think that it was Urban who smacked his wife

    The shit heel who did it is forgotten

    As much as I'd like to see Ohio State lose this guy before they can rack up another couple of titles, I think the guy is arguably the best corch in the country (yes, including Saban) and I agree with the idea that you can't hang a coach over every bad thing people do in the organization on their own time.

    Rule violations and bad behavior w/in the organization, especially when it's recurring, is another matter. But this is a little much for me. Sure, if I'd known a guy on my staff were beating his wife, whether or not she's batshit, he'd have to commit to not doing it again and get counseling or LEAVE. But we don't know what Urbs may or may not have said, what he may or may not have known and, more importantly, believed.

    It's a fine line putting your nose where it doesn't belong and doing the right thing. It's not always clear what to do in the moment.

    You know, except for when it's explicitly in your contract.

    If the Bucks do can him, they’ll be subject to suit. @creepycoug, what think you? That the clause would hold up in court??!
    It's all kind of irrelevant if he's a mandated reporter as a state employee. As a mandated reporter it's pretty black and white if they can show you have any knowledge whatsoever and that ship already sailed.

    Don't know Ohio and their specific laws but in Ca he'd already pretty much be fucked.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,784 Founders Club
    Urbz is backtracking by sayying he failed to recall the allegations and wasn't prepared to discuss publicly sensitive content.

    I think it's a smart move, he's not doubling down on the lie because he and his wife will get roasted and he will for sure get fired.

    Now he has like an 81% chance to remain.
  • SyphilisButter
    SyphilisButter Member Posts: 221
    Doogles said:

    Urbz is backtracking by sayying he failed to recall the allegations and wasn't prepared to discuss publicly sensitive content.

    I think it's a smart move, he's not doubling down on the lie because he and his wife will get roasted and he will for sure get fired.

    Now he has like an 81% chance to remain.

    How is this in any way a positive?

    First he lies and says he knew nothing about the 2015 abuse and then when there is proof- he claims he has always followed reporting procedures- he has proved himself a liar- why should we believe him? Where is the report he made in 2015?