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  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Posts: 7,070
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    AZDuck said:

    I'm kind of hoping we got lucky on the whole Sark part and maybe Cristoballz will be good.

    There is evidence to support that hope, but not a lot

    If Cisroballz is an average coach, with the staff + recruiting, we will be pretty good

    The list of great assistants under James who sucked under Lambo and Gilby is a long one

    Jimmy Lake coached here under Gilby
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    HuskyJW said:

    AZDuck said:

    I'm kind of hoping we got lucky on the whole Sark part and maybe Cristoballz will be good.

    There is evidence to support that hope, but not a lot

    If Cisroballz is an average coach, with the staff + recruiting, we will be pretty good

    The list of great assistants under James who sucked under Lambo and Gilby is a long one

    Jimmy Lake coached here under Gilby
    Jimmy Lake didn’t coach here under James
    dnc
  • AZDuckAZDuck Posts: 14,761
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    Pretty much every head coach was an assistant at some point. Maybe Cristoballz is good, maybe not. He gets a little tim from me to prove himself.

    Sark comparisons are a bit inapt since Sark only recruited skill players. The lines seem to be a focus for Cristoballz. This may be a good thing or not. Either way, interesting.

    Petersen is still 1-2 against Helfrich.
    haiebananasnblondesPitchfork51PetermanSoutherndawg
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    dnc said:

    AZDuck said:

    Pretty much every head coach was an assistant at some point. Maybe Cristoballz is good, maybe not. He gets a little tim from me to prove himself.

    Sark comparisons are a bit inapt since Sark only recruited skill players. The lines seem to be a focus for Cristoballz. This may be a good thing or not. Either way, interesting.

    Petersen is still 1-2 against Helfrich.

    Helfrich > Petersen!!!!
    Glad to see someone here can do maff
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Posts: 5,491
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    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    Ty Willingham was never getting a team to an NC game in a fucking playoff system.

    No one calls a fucking game as dumbly as Sark. What UW did has nothing to do with what any other program does. Just because your buddy had a brunette wife that cheated on him that doesn't mean every brunette is going to do that. Shitty projection is cute but it's not reality.

    You know who else has/had flash and sizzle? Urbs, Dabo, Spurrier, Petey C, etc. I'm in no way comparing Mario to those guys, but it would be just as dumb to say he would be Sark.

    It's also funny there is nothing that brings up my 10:1 ratio of posts about how Sling wasn't good during these same times. I'm the person that gave him the Slingblade name and that started during his first season. I was against him being hired in the first place because it was lazy.

    If Herbert is back for 2019 Oregon will be the overwhelming favorite from the Pac to make the playoffs. That would be five years instead of four. My bad.
    AZDuckSourcesPetermanCuntWafflePitchfork51UW_Doog_Botdoogville
  • AZDuckAZDuck Posts: 14,761
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    dnc said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    Ty Willingham was never getting a team to an NC game in a fucking playoff system.

    No one calls a fucking game as dumbly as Sark. What UW did has nothing to do with what any other program does. Just because your buddy had a brunette wife that cheated on him that doesn't mean every brunette is going to do that. Shitty projection is cute but it's not reality.

    You know who else has/had flash and sizzle? Urbs, Dabo, Spurrier, Petey C, etc. I'm in no way comparing Mario to those guys, but it would be just as dumb to say he would be Sark.

    It's also funny there is nothing that brings up my 10:1 ratio of posts about how Sling wasn't good during these same times. I'm the person that gave him the Slingblade name and that started during his first season. I was against him being hired in the first place because it was lazy.

    If Herbert is back for 2019 Oregon will be the overwhelming favorite from the Pac to make the playoffs. That would be five years instead of four. My bad.
    So you were against Helfrich before you were for him?
    I was.

    But then I was against him again in 2015. Winners win.
    GrundleStiltzkinYellowSnowPitchfork51
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,701
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    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.
    dnc
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,701
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    To add to earlier Shit poast.

    I think the Taggart/Sark comparison is valid. We hardly knew Willie but it’s easy to envision him as being promoted to failure at FSU as Sark was to SC. I give Cristoballin a pass for the Vegas bowel. A shit bowl that your supposed team leader sits out for the draft. Not hard to see a team laying an egg in that situation and BSU was a better team. Not just on that day.

    AZDuck
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,701
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    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.
    UW won the national title in 1991. In October of 1992 they beat top 20 Stanford 41-7 to keep the #1 ranking. Then Billy Joe hit

    James left a three time defending conference champion, two out of three Rose Bowl winner and one year removed from a natty

    Mosster level post dude
    9-3 is a good team. Not a great one. They were heading in a downward trajectory with or without Lambo.
    Gothryd
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    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.
    UW won the national title in 1991. In October of 1992 they beat top 20 Stanford 41-7 to keep the #1 ranking. Then Billy Joe hit

    James left a three time defending conference champion, two out of three Rose Bowl winner and one year removed from a natty

    Mosster level post dude
    9-3 is a good team. Not a great one. They were heading in a downward trajectory with or without Lambo.
    Complete bullshit

    Don;t be a simpleton
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,701
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    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.
    UW won the national title in 1991. In October of 1992 they beat top 20 Stanford 41-7 to keep the #1 ranking. Then Billy Joe hit

    James left a three time defending conference champion, two out of three Rose Bowl winner and one year removed from a natty

    Mosster level post dude
    9-3 is a good team. Not a great one. They were heading in a downward trajectory with or without Lambo.
    Complete bullshit

    Don;t be a simpleton
    You’re right. Don James would have made Damon Huard a GOOD QB!!!’
    Gothryd
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    ^ * Walsh, as in Bill. Not going to edit because .... Derek!!!!!!!!!!!
  • salemcoogsalemcoog Posts: 8,701
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    edited June 29

    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.
    UW won the national title in 1991. In October of 1992 they beat top 20 Stanford 41-7 to keep the #1 ranking. Then Billy Joe hit

    James left a three time defending conference champion, two out of three Rose Bowl winner and one year removed from a natty

    Mosster level post dude
    9-3 is a good team. Not a great one. They were heading in a downward trajectory with or without Lambo.
    Complete bullshit

    Don;t be a simpleton
    I think Washington had been in a downward trajectory around the tim of the 86 or 87 (whatever) Sun Bowel loss to Alabama, where Cornelius Bennett finally convinced James that he had a big, strong and slow af team. There was also rumor he took a trip to his alma mater to see what Jimmy was cooking down there as well. That one may or may not be true. In any event, it took a few recruiting cycles, but that's when he started emphasizing speed all over the field. By 1990, it was working. I still say the real national championship, as I define it to be the two teams playing the best football at the end of the season, was the Miami team that absolutely destroyed Texas in the Cotton and Washington, which did almost the same to Iowa in the Rose (score of that game was not indicative - Washington was up 33 to 7 at half and coasted in the second half, with Iowa getting some junk time scoring).

    So they were not on a downward trajectory in the early 90s ... quite the opposite. They were at the beginning of a new era, with a completely different style of play and could have owned the conference with it for years. There was really nobody in the Pac who was in a position to knock them off. Remember Wash whining about mercenaries or some such shit? That tells you where Washington was sitting. Consider, too, the roster of the 94 team Washington team. I don't think Washington has ever had a more talented 7-4 team in its history. That was talent DJ left behind. Imagine if a coach with an IQ were coaching that '94 team ....

    Washington went down because of coaching. DJ left Lambo the keys to a sports car. He just really fucked it up.

    I mean, blaming the players for losing to Air Force. Really dude? I've met him. Really, really nice man. But he was a classic example of the Peter Principle. Just like Gilby, he was really good at coaching a unit, but turrible with the whole program. It is yet another in an infinite line of examples that demonstrate clearly that there is a very unique skill involved in running a whole program that goes well beyond football IQ.
    The 1994 team had a shitty QB. If you have a shitty QB, you have a mediocre team. You are what your record is despite past glories. Don James had great runs earlier to be followed with only good runs before he left. Lambo was not left with some sort of dynasty. That so called dynasty lost 2/3 ACs. That’s really all you need to know about that.
    GothrydBaseman
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    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.
    UW won the national title in 1991. In October of 1992 they beat top 20 Stanford 41-7 to keep the #1 ranking. Then Billy Joe hit

    James left a three time defending conference champion, two out of three Rose Bowl winner and one year removed from a natty

    Mosster level post dude
    9-3 is a good team. Not a great one. They were heading in a downward trajectory with or without Lambo.
    Holy fuck.
    RaceBannondnccreepycougPeterman
  • dncdnc Posts: 36,688
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    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sources said:

    This is the kind of garbage that still pisses me off. I was lambasted for criticizing Helfrich consistently since the Tennessee home game in 2013. We won that game 59-14 mind you, but it was the sloppiest 45 point win I had ever seen. The confusion on the field was mind blowing.

    Later that year it was also apparent that Helfrich had no idea how to get DeAnthony Thomas the football in space. Let that sink in...You have the most dynamic player in college football at the time, and our? head coach had no idea how to utilize him. This led to my referring Helfrich to the guy inheriting a Ferrari, and driving it regularly without changing it's oil.

    My best friends during this time became acquaintances because they couldn't stand my "wrongful" distaste towards Helfrich, and I couldn't stand their unflinching support. Fast forward to a week after his firing, these same "friends" claimed they knew all along that Helfrich was in over his head.

    To the HHB's, is this what the Ty and Sark years were like?

    Pretty much. Helfrich is your Ty, and Taggert / Christobal is your Sark. The corollary is so spot on it's hilarious. A shit coach followed by a regime of sizzle and hype. This is why most here think Oregon is fucked.

    I don’t see any real comparisons between UWs and UOs situation when their respective Rome burned. James’ team wasn’t exactly dominating when He left. Oregon’s was when Chipper left.

    If you have to do the comparison though, Helfrich would be Oregon’s Lambo. Ty inherited a shitty program and made it the worst in the country. Lambo took a good program and made it mediocre, which more resembles Helfrich imo.
    UW won the national title in 1991. In October of 1992 they beat top 20 Stanford 41-7 to keep the #1 ranking. Then Billy Joe hit

    James left a three time defending conference champion, two out of three Rose Bowl winner and one year removed from a natty

    Mosster level post dude
    9-3 is a good team. Not a great one. They were heading in a downward trajectory with or without Lambo.
    Complete bullshit

    Don;t be a simpleton
    I think Washington had been in a downward trajectory around the tim of the 86 or 87 (whatever) Sun Bowel loss to Alabama, where Cornelius Bennett finally convinced James that he had a big, strong and slow af team. There was also rumor he took a trip to his alma mater to see what Jimmy was cooking down there as well. That one may or may not be true. In any event, it took a few recruiting cycles, but that's when he started emphasizing speed all over the field. By 1990, it was working. I still say the real national championship, as I define it to be the two teams playing the best football at the end of the season, was the Miami team that absolutely destroyed Texas in the Cotton and Washington, which did almost the same to Iowa in the Rose (score of that game was not indicative - Washington was up 33 to 7 at half and coasted in the second half, with Iowa getting some junk time scoring).

    So they were not on a downward trajectory in the early 90s ... quite the opposite. They were at the beginning of a new era, with a completely different style of play and could have owned the conference with it for years. There was really nobody in the Pac who was in a position to knock them off. Remember Wash whining about mercenaries or some such shit? That tells you where Washington was sitting. Consider, too, the roster of the 94 team Washington team. I don't think Washington has ever had a more talented 7-4 team in its history. That was talent DJ left behind. Imagine if a coach with an IQ were coaching that '94 team ....

    Washington went down because of coaching. DJ left Lambo the keys to a sports car. He just really fucked it up.

    I mean, blaming the players for losing to Air Force. Really dude? I've met him. Really, really nice man. But he was a classic example of the Peter Principle. Just like Gilby, he was really good at coaching a unit, but turrible with the whole program. It is yet another in an infinite line of examples that demonstrate clearly that there is a very unique skill involved in running a whole program that goes well beyond football IQ.
    The 1994 team had a shitty QB. If you have a shitty QB, you have a mediocre team. You are what your record is despite past glories. Don James had great runs earlier to be followed with only good runs before he left. Lambo was not left with some sort of dynasty. That so called dynasty lost 2/3 ACs. That’s really all you need to know about that.
    90: UW 55, WSU 10
    91: UW 56, WSU 21
    92: WSU 42, UW 23

    Maff is TUFF.
    MisterEmIce_Holmvik
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