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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    LEGAL immigration where we choose who we need to help US is fine

    You are arguing for illegals which is a fucking stupid argument for the point you are trying to make

    I've been in construction for 40 years. I understand all.

    If illegals are so fucking great why aren't other countries clamoring for their share and why is Merkel and the rest of the Euros on thin ice for their own shit hole people?

    How many illegals do we need to reach economic nirvana?

    Your argument is retarded

    Who said I HAD a problem WITH legal immigration? Not me.

    I hope you don't think your new frens are serious about LEGAL immigration. Tell me you're not that gullible. Sessions and Miller are anti-immigration, period. I didn't need to read yesterday's NYT's piece to know that Sessions' views were indelibly marked by immigrants, legal and otherwise, taking jobs at the chicken factory away from his toothless, sister loving white trash frens. It's been written about before, and he's spoken of it numerous times. He wasn't checking visa cards when he formulated those views.

    This is not about legal vs. illegal buddy boy. Don't be obtuse. Your new pals don't like immigrants, especially those who look like your wife. That's not a joke, so don't get twisted. That's serious creep right there. Yes, some of them are in fact racists, and many more who support them are as well. I know you know that.

    OBK is right: this is a war. There are people who do and people who do not like people like me and my family. When people don't like you, you don't like them back. It's not manly to try and make people like you. The creep clan knows how to handle enemies. We're good at it.

    I'll win in any event because my genes are better than those who are afraid of me. And they should be afraid.
    Its all about legal versus illegal. Jesus Christ that's a stupid statement

    As stupid as thinking I said you had a problem with legal immigration

    I don't have a problem with it. Immigration should be to help America. Period

    Play the race card you fucking moron. Its what losers do
    If you don't think this issue has been politicized to politically marshal people who don't like certain types of people here, then unfortunately it's you who's gone full moron. The lower class and uneducated in this country in particular are being used for this just as much as you like to point out that Dems use immigrants for votes. Same game. You're just selective in what you chose to observe.

    While there's nothing wrong with appropriately managing immigration, there is a lot wrong with moving it to the number one spot on the hit list and making the citizenry freak out about an issue in complete disproportion to its importance. I'd rather see him continue applying pressure on our trade partners and spend less time on this shit. An immigrant raped someone. An immigrant stole some guy's car. Jesus help you if you don't see it.

    Immigration should be to help America. And it pretty much always has.

    And quit having temper tantrums. It's not manly.
    I'm arguing with 6 or 7 people across three platforms. I don't have time for niceties and if you argue like hondo you get the fuck off he gets

    Iron Law

    You have made it a race issue just like your democrat masters who want open borders like you do have told you too

    It is a huge fucking issue and has nothing to do with racism.

    When you pull that card you might as well log off and call it a day

    Its the self titled elite who make this the issue it is by trying to get open borders. We are not going to take it. And we is a whole lot of Blacks my man. A whole lot

    They see what the democrats are doing
    Yes creep... Don't argue with facts. Race hates that more than anything.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,275

    No one hates you or your family Creep, not here anyway, only your fucktarded open border philosophy, hth.

    No, not here.

    But it's not as isolated as you probably think. Sure, everyone likes everyone when they get to know them. But a lot of people don't want to know a lot of people, or won't have the occasion in any event.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,472 Founders Club
    So Mexico couldn't benefit from the free illegal labor that is passing through on the way to us?

    If its good for us its good for everyone!

    Is anyone monitoring the numbers to make sure we hit that "free market sweet spot" of illegal dirt farmers in the country?

    Isn't that why we would want to secure the border and actually you know keep fucking track of who is coming here?

    Why is America alone supposed to say fuck it to border laws?

    Yeah, fucking ludicrous dude
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,472 Founders Club

    Furthermore, when

    Fucking, Christ. You said yourself not more than a few days ago that don't argue history with Yella snow.

    @creepycoug , you ignorant slut, we were protectionists for the first 180 years or so of the Republic. We? closed the gates in 1924 for 41 years. And yet the country was considered a hell of a lot more laissez faire in the 1920s than it is now. I'm not saying to coddle the losers, but you can't fuck them over too badly either, lest they start revolting at the ballot box. We live in a democracy, Creep, not Soviet Russia, and the losers will go full pitchfork, populist.



    Too late.

    HTH

    Sad I had to point that out to you. I remember when you knew your shit. You and Race have been hanging around the wrong kinda people.

    PS: Latin Americans were still allowed in under the '24 Act, so, yeah, you're all welcome. Imagine the shit-show if we'd be left out with other 2% countries. Criminy.

    And, what happened 5 years later anyway?

    See?

    There is no American Utopia to which you can point. There has always been an advantageous exploitation (in the good way) of labor and capital in all of our historical upswings.

    Plan for the losers and ye will be a loser. I think Jefferson said that. Not sure.
    Yep, too late. I gave Hill $50 to try and stop it, but she's a loser and losers lose.

    Bad, bad, history. Yes, there have always been Messicans in California, Tejas, New Messico, etc, but the flood gates didn't open until the 1960s. In 1960 there were 788,000 people residing in the US who were born in Latin America. By 2010 that number was 19,155,077. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4638184/table/T2/?report=objectonly

    Quoting Jefferson in a discussion about free labor markets? If that's not fucking irony, then I don't no what is.
    There is a great HBO show on the Latin Explosion in entertainment which has those same numbers. Its neither good nor bad on its face. J Lo is welcome. MS 13 not so much

    America needs people that will share our common bond and be net givers to the treasury

    If unskilled illegals are such a fucking boon to a country I am surprised there are any poor folks left around the world. Mexico should have a larger economy than we do
    If you'd paid attention in Professor Hayne's course instead of sleeping off your hangover, you'd know why Mexico is poor even with a lot of poor.

    No capital.

    And we will be poor too if our capital is left to rot on the vine, because it won't be left to rot on the vine. It will be exported. You think we're shipping off jobs now. Keep it up Lenin.
    Trump is bringing capital back but still

    And jobs

    But still

    Its wrong to pursue policies that are good for America.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,472 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,472 Founders Club

    No one hates you or your family Creep, not here anyway, only your fucktarded open border philosophy, hth.

    No, not here.

    But it's not as isolated as you probably think. Sure, everyone likes everyone when they get to know them. But a lot of people don't want to know a lot of people, or won't have the occasion in any event.
    You got a link for hondo on that

    you sound like a victim
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,275
    edited June 2018

    So Mexico couldn't benefit from the free illegal labor that is passing through on the way to us?

    If its good for us its good for everyone!

    Is anyone monitoring the numbers to make sure we hit that "free market sweet spot" of illegal dirt farmers in the country?

    Isn't that why we would want to secure the border and actually you know keep fucking track of who is coming here?

    Why is America alone supposed to say fuck it to border laws?

    Yeah, fucking ludicrous dude

    Mexico and the US have very different economies and thus very different abilities to exploit economic resources. I'm not an expert on the Mexican economy, but I'll go out on a limb and say that Mexico has less interest in cheap labor than the US.

    Keep track? Of course. I don't dispute that as a legitimate national interest. Stipulated. You needn't beat that horse any more. My main issue is that it's been politicized and that has had some intended or unintended social consequences. I see it all the time.

    I didn't say America should say fuck it to border laws. You said yourself it was stupid for me to argue that you were arguing that I was arguing against legal immigration. You've gone full circle.

    The sweet spot is when the market says so, and the market always communicates. When have we ever in our history counted at the border until a buzzer went off announcing that we'd hit a sweet spot? I'm just telling you that there is work HERE, and that "they" are doing a lot of it, and are doing it cheaper. In some instances, they're doing stuff people who grew up here just won't do. Then there's a lot of made-up shit out there that they aren't doing.

    Nothing on the ground has changed that much, the country has done great things all along the way. This is just politics at this point.

    Get better at securing the border? Sure. Have at it. Make it a political issue so that every fucking loser I ever knew now has renewed focus on the source of all of his problems? Well, it certainly worked well. I can't blame them on that score.

    Still, sad.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,275

    Furthermore, when

    Fucking, Christ. You said yourself not more than a few days ago that don't argue history with Yella snow.

    @creepycoug , you ignorant slut, we were protectionists for the first 180 years or so of the Republic. We? closed the gates in 1924 for 41 years. And yet the country was considered a hell of a lot more laissez faire in the 1920s than it is now. I'm not saying to coddle the losers, but you can't fuck them over too badly either, lest they start revolting at the ballot box. We live in a democracy, Creep, not Soviet Russia, and the losers will go full pitchfork, populist.



    Too late.

    HTH

    Sad I had to point that out to you. I remember when you knew your shit. You and Race have been hanging around the wrong kinda people.

    PS: Latin Americans were still allowed in under the '24 Act, so, yeah, you're all welcome. Imagine the shit-show if we'd be left out with other 2% countries. Criminy.

    And, what happened 5 years later anyway?

    See?

    There is no American Utopia to which you can point. There has always been an advantageous exploitation (in the good way) of labor and capital in all of our historical upswings.

    Plan for the losers and ye will be a loser. I think Jefferson said that. Not sure.
    Yep, too late. I gave Hill $50 to try and stop it, but she's a loser and losers lose.

    Bad, bad, history. Yes, there have always been Messicans in California, Tejas, New Messico, etc, but the flood gates didn't open until the 1960s. In 1960 there were 788,000 people residing in the US who were born in Latin America. By 2010 that number was 19,155,077. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4638184/table/T2/?report=objectonly

    Quoting Jefferson in a discussion about free labor markets? If that's not fucking irony, then I don't no what is.
    There is a great HBO show on the Latin Explosion in entertainment which has those same numbers. Its neither good nor bad on its face. J Lo is welcome. MS 13 not so much

    America needs people that will share our common bond and be net givers to the treasury

    If unskilled illegals are such a fucking boon to a country I am surprised there are any poor folks left around the world. Mexico should have a larger economy than we do
    If you'd paid attention in Professor Hayne's course instead of sleeping off your hangover, you'd know why Mexico is poor even with a lot of poor.

    No capital.

    And we will be poor too if our capital is left to rot on the vine, because it won't be left to rot on the vine. It will be exported. You think we're shipping off jobs now. Keep it up Lenin.
    Trump is bringing capital back but still

    And jobs

    But still

    Its wrong to pursue policies that are good for America.
    1. Great.

    2. Great.

    3. But what?

    4. No, it's not.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,472 Founders Club

    So Mexico couldn't benefit from the free illegal labor that is passing through on the way to us?

    If its good for us its good for everyone!

    Is anyone monitoring the numbers to make sure we hit that "free market sweet spot" of illegal dirt farmers in the country?

    Isn't that why we would want to secure the border and actually you know keep fucking track of who is coming here?

    Why is America alone supposed to say fuck it to border laws?

    Yeah, fucking ludicrous dude

    Keep track? Of course. I don't dispute that as a legitimate national interest. Stipulated. You needn't beat that horse any more. My main issue is that it's been politicized and that has had some intended or unintended social consequences. I see it all the time.

    I didn't say America should say fuck it to border laws. You said yourself it was stupid for me to argue that you were arguing that I was arguing against legal immigration. You've gone full circle.

    The sweet spot is when the market says so, and the market always communicates. When have we ever in our history counted at the border until a buzzer went off announcing that we'd hit a sweet spot? I'm just telling you that there is work HERE, and that "they" are doing a lot of it, and are doing it cheaper. In some instances, they're doing stuff people who grew up here just won't do. Then there's a lot of made-up shit out there that they aren't doing.

    Nothing on the ground has changed that much, the country has done great things all along the way. This is just politics at this point.

    Get better at securing the border? Sure. Have at it. Make it a political issue so that every fucking loser I ever knew now has renewed focus on the source of all of his problems? Well, it certainly worked well. I can't blame them on that score.

    Still, sad.
    Why are you in these threads about illegal immigration and securing the boreder making fucktarded arguments that have nothing to do with the subject you bloviating sod buster

    If you want legal regulated immigration of people that are good for America we fucking agree

    Take your victim schtick and get the fuck out
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,275

    No one hates you or your family Creep, not here anyway, only your fucktarded open border philosophy, hth.

    No, not here.

    But it's not as isolated as you probably think. Sure, everyone likes everyone when they get to know them. But a lot of people don't want to know a lot of people, or won't have the occasion in any event.
    You got a link for hondo on that

    you sound like a victim
    never.