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Jaden McDaniels (Federal Way) (COMMITTED) (EMFA KENTUCKY)
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I think all this is likely. There's still a massive difference between being an assistant and being a head guy.Shenexon said:
If you think that the success Boeheim had over the 20 years prior to Hopkins becoming the UW head coach wasn't partly attributable to Hop, I'd beg to differ. He has a lot of experience that gets overlooked. With Boeheim, he went to the NCAA 15 times I think, and 3 championship games. Hopkins ran practices for many successful teams for Boeheim and think he's under-rated overall but with lots of promise. Boeheim's only championship was led by 2 freshmen...HillsboroDuck said:
Hop has won one NCAA tournament game.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Romar can't coach. Hop can. There's no parallel reason to temper expectations based on past failure. Let @backthepack doog.HillsboroDuck said:
They had another 5 star on the team tooGladstone said:
Should we tell him?backthepack said:
Multi 5 star class? Are you talking about softball?HillsboroDuck said:
He's just dooging extra right now.GreenRiverGatorz said:
That doesn't really refute anything. Oregon State finished 85th in the NET. If that was a one-man Tinkle show (new board motto?) then Tinkle is really fucking good for carrying his team to a top 100 ranking. If that wasn't a one-man Tinkle show then he's really fucking good for putting up those numbers despite not being the sole provider of offense.backthepack said:
You realize how fucking awful the Pac-12 was last year?HillsboroDuck said:
If Oregon State only had one player and still had a winning season in conference that player must be pretty damn good.backthepack said:
Lol because Tinkle is the only good option on OSU. Doesn’t mean that Jaden and Isaiah aren’t better options. Isaiah is going to get like 18 11 and 2.HillsboroDuck said:
If you expect Stewart and McDaniels to both be better than 20 and 8 you’re almost assuredly going to be disappointed.backthepack said:
McDaniels will be better than Tinkle or Mannion. Stewart will be the best player in the conferenceRoadDawg55 said:
I buy Stewart as a possible best player in the conference. McDaniels isn’t.HillsboroDuck said:
I’ll wager a large amount of money Stewart and McDaniels won’t be the best two players in the conference. Two of the top 5, maybe.backthepack said:
We have the two best players in the conference we’ll be fine.bigcc said:
Should also be noted it's going to be a ROUGH road for whatever team wins the conference, even given the class we have, Arizona AND USC are ahead of us in rankings, and Oregon is only 4 spots back.HillsboroDuck said:
I get it, it's fun to dream, but an Elite 8 would be fantastic to me.NEsnake12 said:Final 4 or bust
We're talking about a coach who has one exactly one tournament game and a program that hasn't been past the sweet 16 since 19 fucking 53.
We won't be top 10 preseason. Getting to the E8 would be a huge huge step.
There's been nothing but big dick energy from Hopkins so far, he'll need to keep it going.
We’re not talking Zion and Barrett.
You're talking about a highly productive fifth year senior versus two true freshman.
You're nuts if you take the freshmen.
Anyways, we already know the answer is the latter because the Thompson brothers are good too. And Tinkle is poised to be the best player in the conference next year. I don't know why you're fighting that so hard.
I get it, I remember my first multi five star class, I was mostly the same way.
He's inevitably going to be disappointed. Just part of it I guess.
hth
I think he can probably coach too, but he hasn't exactly proven himself as more than a recruiter yet.
I like Hop. A lot. I'm glad he's our coach and I'm glad we resigned him already.
It's still highly unlikely we have the two best players in the conference next year. -
I don’t understand why y’all worked up if we going to have the best players. Let’s have the best team in the conference
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Fair points but it's a team sport, no matter if you have the best players or not. Your caution on Hopkins is reasonable, but that kind of caution is part of the reason he's no longer at Syracuse. When Hopkins had to stand in for Boeheim over a number of games, the team went on a losing streak. The fan community voiced a lot of concern about handing the keys over to him when Boeheim retires. The lashings he took from Syracuse fans over 5 games is I think one of the reasons he started to look elsewhere. He wanted to get closer to his parents as well among other reasons, but for him, he'd fought as a player for 4 years and then as a coach for decades only to be slapped around on the web by fans over 5 lost games. My advice? Assume the best, not the worst...the truth will come out soon enough either way...HillsboroDuck said:
I think all this is likely. There's still a massive difference between being an assistant and being a head guy.Shenexon said:
If you think that the success Boeheim had over the 20 years prior to Hopkins becoming the UW head coach wasn't partly attributable to Hop, I'd beg to differ. He has a lot of experience that gets overlooked. With Boeheim, he went to the NCAA 15 times I think, and 3 championship games. Hopkins ran practices for many successful teams for Boeheim and think he's under-rated overall but with lots of promise. Boeheim's only championship was led by 2 freshmen...HillsboroDuck said:
Hop has won one NCAA tournament game.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Romar can't coach. Hop can. There's no parallel reason to temper expectations based on past failure. Let @backthepack doog.HillsboroDuck said:
They had another 5 star on the team tooGladstone said:
Should we tell him?backthepack said:
Multi 5 star class? Are you talking about softball?HillsboroDuck said:
He's just dooging extra right now.GreenRiverGatorz said:
That doesn't really refute anything. Oregon State finished 85th in the NET. If that was a one-man Tinkle show (new board motto?) then Tinkle is really fucking good for carrying his team to a top 100 ranking. If that wasn't a one-man Tinkle show then he's really fucking good for putting up those numbers despite not being the sole provider of offense.backthepack said:
You realize how fucking awful the Pac-12 was last year?HillsboroDuck said:
If Oregon State only had one player and still had a winning season in conference that player must be pretty damn good.backthepack said:
Lol because Tinkle is the only good option on OSU. Doesn’t mean that Jaden and Isaiah aren’t better options. Isaiah is going to get like 18 11 and 2.HillsboroDuck said:
If you expect Stewart and McDaniels to both be better than 20 and 8 you’re almost assuredly going to be disappointed.backthepack said:
McDaniels will be better than Tinkle or Mannion. Stewart will be the best player in the conferenceRoadDawg55 said:
I buy Stewart as a possible best player in the conference. McDaniels isn’t.HillsboroDuck said:
I’ll wager a large amount of money Stewart and McDaniels won’t be the best two players in the conference. Two of the top 5, maybe.backthepack said:
We have the two best players in the conference we’ll be fine.bigcc said:
Should also be noted it's going to be a ROUGH road for whatever team wins the conference, even given the class we have, Arizona AND USC are ahead of us in rankings, and Oregon is only 4 spots back.HillsboroDuck said:
I get it, it's fun to dream, but an Elite 8 would be fantastic to me.NEsnake12 said:Final 4 or bust
We're talking about a coach who has one exactly one tournament game and a program that hasn't been past the sweet 16 since 19 fucking 53.
We won't be top 10 preseason. Getting to the E8 would be a huge huge step.
There's been nothing but big dick energy from Hopkins so far, he'll need to keep it going.
We’re not talking Zion and Barrett.
You're talking about a highly productive fifth year senior versus two true freshman.
You're nuts if you take the freshmen.
Anyways, we already know the answer is the latter because the Thompson brothers are good too. And Tinkle is poised to be the best player in the conference next year. I don't know why you're fighting that so hard.
I get it, I remember my first multi five star class, I was mostly the same way.
He's inevitably going to be disappointed. Just part of it I guess.
hth
I think he can probably coach too, but he hasn't exactly proven himself as more than a recruiter yet.
I like Hop. A lot. I'm glad he's our coach and I'm glad we resigned him already.
It's still highly unlikely we have the two best players in the conference next year. -
If you aren’t dooging about this you can suck my dick!
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@Shenexon do you have a few examples of dominate rebounders from your years of watching the Syracuse zone? Dickerson averaged 8 as a junior. I have to imagine that Stewart will eclipse that easily. What say you?HillsboroDuck said:
Agree with this, though I’m interested to see how he rebounds out of Hop’s zone. In a man scheme I definitely think he’d pull 11 per, not sure in this one.BleachedAnusDawg said:
He can shoot the 3, and did so at Kentucky. That, in and of itself, is enough value.2001400ex said:I am still traumatized from Abdul Gaddy so I have an irrational fear about Quade.
Also, Stewart will average 17 and 11. He'll get three easy buckets a game just off of his energy and motor, and should get to the free throw line regularly. -
I think Stewart is going to be as good as he wants to be, with a lot of room for domination. Derrick Coleman, Rony Seikaly, and John Wallace are the best rebounders I remember with SU' s best teams anchored by a guy like Stewart but mostly 4 year guys not a talent like Stewart. Rick Jackson, Rakeem Christmas, Onuaku, and Otis Hill were all strong guys anchoring the zone as well. As long as he stays out of foul trouble and stays healthy, Stewart will be a major character in opposing coaches' nightmares. If the zone is keeping the ball on the perimeter, missed 3 pointers make for rebounds away from the basket and that could keep his rebound numbers down...
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exactlyShenexon said:I think Stewart is going to be as good as he wants to be, with a lot of room for domination. Derrick Coleman, Rony Seikaly, and John Wallace are the best rebounders I remember with SU' s best teams anchored by a guy like Stewart but mostly 4 year guys not a talent like Stewart. Rick Jackson, Rakeem Christmas, Onuaku, and Otis Hill were all strong guys anchoring the zone as well. As long as he stays out of foul trouble and stays healthy, Stewart will be a major character in opposing coaches' nightmares. If the zone is keeping the ball on the perimeter, missed 3 pointers make for rebounds away from the basket and that could keep his rebound numbers down...
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Danke to BTP for retweeting this:
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Does Fultz really count as playing with a top 3 draft pick?
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Fultz was chinsane in college. If his shot shit didn't come around he would have been a highly successful NBA player and the Sixers would have a championship.2001400ex said:Does Fultz really count as playing with a top 3 draft pick?
There is a full story there that still hasn't come out.
