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Jaden McDaniels (Federal Way) (COMMITTED) (EMFA KENTUCKY)
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He has never been coached to harness his talent. His height on offense is almost a detriment to how he tries to play. He is 6-9 but plays like a 6-3 guard wants to face you up and try and cross you up or spin off you and keep his dribble it’s a turnover machine. It’s a long time for the ball from his hand to the floor. He doesn’t get that though.
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Jerome Collins strikes again....AtomicDawg said:He has never been coached to harness his talent. His height on offense is almost a detriment to how he tries to play. He is 6-9 but plays like a 6-3 guard wants to face you up and try and cross you up or spin off you and keep his dribble it’s a turnover machine. It’s a long time for the ball from his hand to the floor. He doesn’t get that though.
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Not even sure it’s coaching with McDaniels. Most high school kids aren’t well coached and AAU coaching is a joke.
He’s a toolsy player that hasn’t put it together. He wouldn’t be substantially better anywhere else. It is what it is. -
He needs to be coached out of the 1:1 deep 2, but otherwise agree. Trouble is that’s a big part of how he scores.RoadDawg55 said:Not even sure it’s coaching with McDaniels. Most high school kids aren’t well coached and AAU coaching is a joke.
He’s a toolsy player that hasn’t put it together. He wouldn’t be substantially better anywhere else. It is what it is. -
I think he would be better at a school where they don’t encourage him to create the offense just by elimination of some of his half court ISO’s from 30 ft out.RoadDawg55 said:Not even sure it’s coaching with McDaniels. Most high school kids aren’t well coached and AAU coaching is a joke.
He’s a toolsy player that hasn’t put it together. He wouldn’t be substantially better anywhere else. It is what it is.
It’s painful watching the defense collapse on him once he starts dribbling.
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At a less talented school Mcdaniels plays even more minutes, handles the ball more, and is relied on even more. He probably struggles horribly trying to force things until he quits mid season.AtomicDawg said:
I think he would be better at a school where they don’t encourage him to create the offense just by elimination of some of his half court ISO’s from 30 ft out.RoadDawg55 said:Not even sure it’s coaching with McDaniels. Most high school kids aren’t well coached and AAU coaching is a joke.
He’s a toolsy player that hasn’t put it together. He wouldn’t be substantially better anywhere else. It is what it is.
It’s painful watching the defense collapse on him once he starts dribbling.
At a major talented school like Kentucky he is probably benched and getting extremely limited minutes.
Instead he is a hometown guy with just enough talent around him to hide the fact that he has very little usable talent on the court but is still getting regular minutes so isnt buried and called a bust.
I think Mcdaniels has been incredibly lucky to basically walk into, on accident, a Goldilocks situation for him that has mostly protected his potential projections despite his fluctuations in on court effort and relatively disappointing play. -
At a less talented school Mcdaniels plays even more minutes, handles the ball more, and is relied on even more. He probably struggles horribly trying to force things until he quits mid season.AtomicDawg said:
I think he would be better at a school where they don’t encourage him to create the offense just by elimination of some of his half court ISO’s from 30 ft out.RoadDawg55 said:Not even sure it’s coaching with McDaniels. Most high school kids aren’t well coached and AAU coaching is a joke.
He’s a toolsy player that hasn’t put it together. He wouldn’t be substantially better anywhere else. It is what it is.
It’s painful watching the defense collapse on him once he starts dribbling.
At a major talented school like Kentucky he is probably benched and getting extremely limited minutes.
Instead he is a hometown guy with just enough talent around him to hide the fact that he has very little usable talent on the court but is still getting regular minutes so isnt buried and called a bust.
I think Mcdaniels has been incredibly lucky to basically walk into, on accident, a Goldilocks situation for him that has mostly protected his potential projections despite his fluctuations in on court effort and relatively disappointing play. -
McDaniels has above-average skills/raw tools. What he(and every other guard on our team) doesn't do is take what the defense gives them. Guys like Naz and McDaniels can get mid-range jump shots at will but they would rather try to take it into the teeth of the defense for a low-percentage shot. That's on Hop.
The offense that Hop runs requires guys to get their own shot and you live and die by your shooters getting/staying hot. We don't have a single competent shooter on this team right now. When you don't have guys who can create their own shot you have to run an offense of some kind that dictates where/when shots are taken. Look at Michigan State, they run a deliberate offense where the offense relies upon guards curling off of picks and the shot that opens up is the mid-range jumper. No matter who is on that team they run the same offense. Guys don't have to create their own shot. They just play the system and the system creates open mid-range shots. -
Mcdaniels doesnt do much "above-average"louism2wash said:McDaniels has above-average skills/raw tools. What he(and every other guard on our team) doesn't do is take what the defense gives them. Guys like Naz and McDaniels can get mid-range jump shots at will but they would rather try to take it into the teeth of the defense for a low-percentage shot. That's on Hop.
The offense that Hop runs requires guys to get their own shot and you live and die by your shooters getting/staying hot. We don't have a single competent shooter on this team right now. When you don't have guys who can create their own shot you have to run an offense of some kind that dictates where/when shots are taken. Look at Michigan State, they run a deliberate offense where the offense relies upon guards curling off of picks and the shot that opens up is the mid-range jumper. No matter who is on that team they run the same offense. Guys don't have to create their own shot. They just play the system and the system creates open mid-range shots.
Shooting = below average
Ball handling = below average
without the ball = below average
rebounding = below average
perimeter defense = below average
Passing = average
he is maybe above average at low, weak-side help defense/blocks, thats about it.
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Enjoy the G-Leaguednc said: -
When people say that some people just mentally mature enough to go into the NBA McDaniels is that...Tequilla said:
Enjoy the G-Leaguednc said:
He isnt good enough to have the sleepy/mopey attitude, its going to drive coaches and trainers absolutely insane. Im not even sure he even likes to play basketball let alone has the passion and work ethic to make it in any competitive league.
81% chance he continues to not put in the work off the court, He is well below average when it comes to his shooting as a guard, ball handling, and physical development. -
Probably my least favorite husky basketball player of all time.
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Yeah it used to be Wroten for me but Wroten was significantly better in his one and done year.bananasnblondes said:Probably my least favorite husky basketball player of all time.
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I hate all those fags who transferred to Gonzaga. Dickau, Brown, Knight, Williams-Goss.dnc said:
Yeah it used to be Wroten for me but Wroten was significantly better in his one and done year.bananasnblondes said:Probably my least favorite husky basketball player of all time.
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PurpleThrobber said:
I hate all those fags who transferred to Gonzaga. Dickau, Brown, Knight, Williams-Goss.dnc said:
Yeah it used to be Wroten for me but Wroten was significantly better in his one and done year.bananasnblondes said:Probably my least favorite husky basketball player of all time.
Don’t agree on Dickau. One of my favorite college hoopers. I can’t blame NWG either. He wanted to win. -
All those guys except maybe Knight made the right choice, and hard to blame him either. IIRC he transferred because he hated Doug Wrenn.RoadDawg55 said:PurpleThrobber said:
I hate all those fags who transferred to Gonzaga. Dickau, Brown, Knight, Williams-Goss.dnc said:
Yeah it used to be Wroten for me but Wroten was significantly better in his one and done year.bananasnblondes said:Probably my least favorite husky basketball player of all time.
Don’t agree on Dickau. One of my favorite college hoopers. I can’t blame NWG either. He wanted to win.
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I can agree that his ball handling and shooting aren't as good as he thinks they are, but he wasn't necessarily a low effort player, just extremely sloppy.Houhusky said:
When people say that some people just mentally mature enough to go into the NBA McDaniels is that...Tequilla said:
Enjoy the G-Leaguednc said:
He isnt good enough to have the sleepy/mopey attitude, its going to drive coaches and trainers absolutely insane. Im not even sure he even likes to play basketball let alone has the passion and work ethic to make it in any competitive league.
81% chance he continues to not put in the work off the court, He is well below average when it comes to his shooting as a guard, ball handling, and physical development.
He was pretty disruptive on D, effort wasn’t an issue. Trying to be Kevin Durant was the issue. -
Agreed, you don't block that many shots by being lazy and not caring.Doogles said:
I can agree that his ball handling and shooting aren't as good as he thinks they are, but he wasn't necessarily a low effort player, just extremely sloppy.Houhusky said:
When people say that some people just mentally mature enough to go into the NBA McDaniels is that...Tequilla said:
Enjoy the G-Leaguednc said:
He isnt good enough to have the sleepy/mopey attitude, its going to drive coaches and trainers absolutely insane. Im not even sure he even likes to play basketball let alone has the passion and work ethic to make it in any competitive league.
81% chance he continues to not put in the work off the court, He is well below average when it comes to his shooting as a guard, ball handling, and physical development.
He was pretty disruptive on D, effort wasn’t an issue. Trying to be Kevin Durant was the issue.
His biggest problem was that he was way overhyped. -
Fair.dnc said:
All those guys except maybe Knight made the right choice, and hard to blame him either. IIRC he transferred because he hated Doug Wrenn.RoadDawg55 said:PurpleThrobber said:
I hate all those fags who transferred to Gonzaga. Dickau, Brown, Knight, Williams-Goss.dnc said:
Yeah it used to be Wroten for me but Wroten was significantly better in his one and done year.bananasnblondes said:Probably my least favorite husky basketball player of all time.
Don’t agree on Dickau. One of my favorite college hoopers. I can’t blame NWG either. He wanted to win. -
His defense sucked, except for the highlight backside block... He struggled to stay in front of his man by moving his feet and there were more than a couple games he picked up a ton of unnecessary fouls with his poor defense.Doogles said:
I can agree that his ball handling and shooting aren't as good as he thinks they are, but he wasn't necessarily a low effort player, just extremely sloppy.Houhusky said:
When people say that some people just mentally mature enough to go into the NBA McDaniels is that...Tequilla said:
Enjoy the G-Leaguednc said:
He isnt good enough to have the sleepy/mopey attitude, its going to drive coaches and trainers absolutely insane. Im not even sure he even likes to play basketball let alone has the passion and work ethic to make it in any competitive league.
81% chance he continues to not put in the work off the court, He is well below average when it comes to his shooting as a guard, ball handling, and physical development.
He was pretty disruptive on D, effort wasn’t an issue. Trying to be Kevin Durant was the issue.
Its a large part of why Hop had to move him off the top of the Zone (at the start of the season) to the wings where he was less of a liability.
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I agree that he has some motor, but he takes plays off too. He’s not a good shooter, is weak and gets pushed around the hoop, and he’s a below average playmaker.
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Agree on all frontsRoadDawg55 said:I agree that he has some motor, but he takes plays off too. He’s not a good shooter, is weak and gets pushed around the hoop, and he’s a below average playmaker.
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Effort was good when he thought he could get a steal or block ... super lazy and indifferent otherwiseDoogles said:
I can agree that his ball handling and shooting aren't as good as he thinks they are, but he wasn't necessarily a low effort player, just extremely sloppy.Houhusky said:
When people say that some people just mentally mature enough to go into the NBA McDaniels is that...Tequilla said:
Enjoy the G-Leaguednc said:
He isnt good enough to have the sleepy/mopey attitude, its going to drive coaches and trainers absolutely insane. Im not even sure he even likes to play basketball let alone has the passion and work ethic to make it in any competitive league.
81% chance he continues to not put in the work off the court, He is well below average when it comes to his shooting as a guard, ball handling, and physical development.
He was pretty disruptive on D, effort wasn’t an issue. Trying to be Kevin Durant was the issue. -
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Wait, it wasn’t official until now???
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Projected mid first round, maybe creep into the back end of the lottery.
If he came back and dominated college as a sophomore there is no reason to think he couldn't go first overall with his measurables.
There's also the strong possibility he's just not that good or willing to work on fulfilling his potential and getting exposed.
I think, like Chriss, it's right to leave early when some coach will believe they can mold you while you're still young. -
He got the roll the dice part right ... don’t spend all that money in one spot
Anybody with any kind of self confidence would say that returning to school, working on your craft, and getting drafted higher (more $$$) is a prudent play ...
Only reason this makes sense is if you believe that there won’t be a CFB season next year
