The 90s is going to be fucking stacked. Easily the golden age. The teens is going to be the weakest by far. Timbaland probably makes the bracket if its straight 64 but I don't think he cracks the 90s top 16.
Pac Biggie Outkast (could put them in 00s for balance though) Dre Ice Cube Goodie Mobb Bushwick Bill Jadakiss Warren G Too Short Wu collectively, plus Method Man, and ODB individually Redman Juvy E40 Mace Mobb Deep Tribe Called Quest Naughty By Nature and while not my tastes you have to add Puff Daddy, Master P and Salt N Pepa as well.
All those are probably ahead of Timbaland in the 90s line, IMO and that's just off the top of my head so I'm sure I'm overlooking a few people. I'd argue for 8 Ball and MJG too though they straddle the 90s 00 line as well. Tim might fair better in the 00s.
Stacked era.
I think we might have found our tournament chairman.
I'll need to lean heavily on Grundle and some of you other old heads on 80s seeding. I know most of the generally considered best acts but wouldn't be confident in ranking them. I'd probably need BTP or some other teen boys held in the 10's because fuck rap sucks now. But I could nail the middle two decades and have a decent framework for the first and last.
80s NWA Public Enemy Ice T LL Cool J Kurtis Blow Run DMC Eric B and Rakim Doug E. Fresh Big Daddy Kane Slick Rick Whodini Geto Boys (maybe 90s?) KRS-One Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five Kool Moe Dee 2 Live Crew - shoutout to @creepycoug
We might have to be a little more creative than just decades to properly weigh how stacked the 90s would be.
I thought a little and here’s my first pass 8 team bracket for the last 10ish years, based kinda on personal preference but mostly on mainstream popularity:
Guys like Kanye and lil Wayne should be in the 2000s bracket.
I think Kanye's work the lastdecade has been more influential than his earlier stuff (though I prefer the earlier stuff). He belongs here IMO. With you on Weazy.
I always think of Graduation as Kanye’s peak popularity, and that was circa 2007. Maybe he does fit slightly better in the 2010’s... but I think there’s less depth in the 2000s rappers so for balance reasons put him there.
You think the 2010s is deeper than 2000s?
2000s gets:
Outkast Fiddy Nelly Luda Hova TI Jeezy Weezy Shady The Game Missy Ghostface Killa Cam'Ron Soul'jah Boy Fabolous Chamillionaire Scarface Timbaland Three Six
And possibly Nas (hard one to nail down)
I'm taking that bracket over 2010s rather easily.
I agree with most of what you said in the thread. But fuck off for saying OutKast is in the 2000s.
90s is more stacked so I tried putting Outkast and Nas in 00s. Not sure Outkast is even in the top half of the bracket in the 90s. 00s they're probably in the top 4.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer their 90s stuff (ATLiens was their best album to me) but Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is their most iconic shit.
We might have to be a little more creative than just decades to properly weigh how stacked the 90s would be.
I thought a little and here’s my first pass 8 team bracket for the last 10ish years, based kinda on personal preference but mostly on mainstream popularity:
Guys like Kanye and lil Wayne should be in the 2000s bracket.
I think Kanye's work the lastdecade has been more influential than his earlier stuff (though I prefer the earlier stuff). He belongs here IMO. With you on Weazy.
I always think of Graduation as Kanye’s peak popularity, and that was circa 2007. Maybe he does fit slightly better in the 2010’s... but I think there’s less depth in the 2000s rappers so for balance reasons put him there.
You think the 2010s is deeper than 2000s?
2000s gets:
Outkast Fiddy Nelly Luda Hova TI Jeezy Weezy Shady The Game Missy Ghostface Killa Cam'Ron Soul'jah Boy Fabolous Chamillionaire Scarface Timbaland Three Six
And possibly Nas (hard one to nail down)
I'm taking that bracket over 2010s rather easily.
I agree with most of what you said in the thread. But fuck off for saying OutKast is in the 2000s.
90s is more stacked so I tried putting Outkast and Nas in 00s. Not sure Outkast is even in the top half of the bracket in the 90s. 00s they're probably in the top 4.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer their 90s stuff (ATLiens was their best album to me) but Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is their most iconic shit.
Yes Atliens was by far their best album. Southernplayalisticcaddilacfunkymusic had a few good songs too.
Instead of decades. Why don't we do it by region. East coast (Wu tang, Biggie), West coast (Dre, Pac), northern (Eminem, Macklemore), southern (Outkast, Lil Wayne).
We might have to be a little more creative than just decades to properly weigh how stacked the 90s would be.
I thought a little and here’s my first pass 8 team bracket for the last 10ish years, based kinda on personal preference but mostly on mainstream popularity:
Guys like Kanye and lil Wayne should be in the 2000s bracket.
I think Kanye's work the lastdecade has been more influential than his earlier stuff (though I prefer the earlier stuff). He belongs here IMO. With you on Weazy.
I always think of Graduation as Kanye’s peak popularity, and that was circa 2007. Maybe he does fit slightly better in the 2010’s... but I think there’s less depth in the 2000s rappers so for balance reasons put him there.
You think the 2010s is deeper than 2000s?
2000s gets:
Outkast Fiddy Nelly Luda Hova TI Jeezy Weezy Shady The Game Missy Ghostface Killa Cam'Ron Soul'jah Boy Fabolous Chamillionaire Scarface Timbaland Three Six
And possibly Nas (hard one to nail down)
I'm taking that bracket over 2010s rather easily.
I agree with most of what you said in the thread. But fuck off for saying OutKast is in the 2000s.
90s is more stacked so I tried putting Outkast and Nas in 00s. Not sure Outkast is even in the top half of the bracket in the 90s. 00s they're probably in the top 4.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer their 90s stuff (ATLiens was their best album to me) but Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is their most iconic shit.
Yes Atliens was by far their best album. Southernplayalisticcaddilacfunkymusic had a few good songs too.
Instead of decades. Why don't we do it by region. East coast (Wu tang, Biggie), West coast (Dre, Pac), northern (Eminem, Macklemore), southern (Outkast, Lil Wayne).
I’ll look at that but my guess is East Coast would be even more stacked than 90s and the other 3 brackets would be pretty light.
Actually now that I think more about it I think the best solution is to stay with decades but for the 80s bracket it’s anyone who had anything of significance in the 80s and for the other decades it’s the last decade you had anything of significance. This solves both major problems: thins out the 90s and beefs up the 10s.
We might have to be a little more creative than just decades to properly weigh how stacked the 90s would be.
I thought a little and here’s my first pass 8 team bracket for the last 10ish years, based kinda on personal preference but mostly on mainstream popularity:
Guys like Kanye and lil Wayne should be in the 2000s bracket.
I think Kanye's work the lastdecade has been more influential than his earlier stuff (though I prefer the earlier stuff). He belongs here IMO. With you on Weazy.
I always think of Graduation as Kanye’s peak popularity, and that was circa 2007. Maybe he does fit slightly better in the 2010’s... but I think there’s less depth in the 2000s rappers so for balance reasons put him there.
You think the 2010s is deeper than 2000s?
2000s gets:
Outkast Fiddy Nelly Luda Hova TI Jeezy Weezy Shady The Game Missy Ghostface Killa Cam'Ron Soul'jah Boy Fabolous Chamillionaire Scarface Timbaland Three Six
And possibly Nas (hard one to nail down)
I'm taking that bracket over 2010s rather easily.
I agree with most of what you said in the thread. But fuck off for saying OutKast is in the 2000s.
90s is more stacked so I tried putting Outkast and Nas in 00s. Not sure Outkast is even in the top half of the bracket in the 90s. 00s they're probably in the top 4.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer their 90s stuff (ATLiens was their best album to me) but Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is their most iconic shit.
Yes Atliens was by far their best album. Southernplayalisticcaddilacfunkymusic had a few good songs too.
Instead of decades. Why don't we do it by region. East coast (Wu tang, Biggie), West coast (Dre, Pac), northern (Eminem, Macklemore), southern (Outkast, Lil Wayne).
We might have to be a little more creative than just decades to properly weigh how stacked the 90s would be.
I thought a little and here’s my first pass 8 team bracket for the last 10ish years, based kinda on personal preference but mostly on mainstream popularity:
Guys like Kanye and lil Wayne should be in the 2000s bracket.
I think Kanye's work the lastdecade has been more influential than his earlier stuff (though I prefer the earlier stuff). He belongs here IMO. With you on Weazy.
Yeah Twisted was one of the best albums of the decade. I think he deserves 10's status
We might have to be a little more creative than just decades to properly weigh how stacked the 90s would be.
I thought a little and here’s my first pass 8 team bracket for the last 10ish years, based kinda on personal preference but mostly on mainstream popularity:
Guys like Kanye and lil Wayne should be in the 2000s bracket.
I think Kanye's work the lastdecade has been more influential than his earlier stuff (though I prefer the earlier stuff). He belongs here IMO. With you on Weazy.
Yeah Twisted was one of the best albums of the decade. I think he deserves 10's status
Anyone that chooses another Kanye album as the best has no taste.
When you guys always play this song, it's intended as humor, right? This has to be one of the worst hip hop songs I've ever heard. And yet, it has 377,851,897 streams on Spotify. Talk about a signs of an aging genre run out of new and fresh ideas.
When you guys always play this song, it's intended as humor, right? This has to be one of the worst hip hop songs I've ever heard. And yet, it has 377,851,897 streams on Spotify. Talk about a signs of an aging genre run out of new and fresh ideas.
It's literally because everyone my age thinks it's the funniest shit they have ever heard because of how bad it is. All my friends die laughing when we hear him.
When you guys always play this song, it's intended as humor, right? This has to be one of the worst hip hop songs I've ever heard. And yet, it has 377,851,897 streams on Spotify. Talk about a signs of an aging genre run out of new and fresh ideas.
It’s more about entertainment than the music. I don’t think anyone over the age of 16 would say it’s well done art.
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NWA
Public Enemy
Ice T
LL Cool J
Kurtis Blow
Run DMC
Eric B and Rakim
Doug E. Fresh
Big Daddy Kane
Slick Rick
Whodini
Geto Boys (maybe 90s?)
KRS-One
Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five
Kool Moe Dee
2 Live Crew - shoutout to @creepycoug
Don't get me wrong, I prefer their 90s stuff (ATLiens was their best album to me) but Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is their most iconic shit.
Instead of decades. Why don't we do it by region. East coast (Wu tang, Biggie), West coast (Dre, Pac), northern (Eminem, Macklemore), southern (Outkast, Lil Wayne).
"Reconcile me a check, Motherfucker"
Going into my business rotation
Such disrespect for Grandmaster Scheffler in the North.
And FUCK HOWARD SCHULZ WITH A RUSTY AIDS-INFESTED CHEESE GRATER.
Hey you bunch of Alt Right Isolationists. Not every rapper has to come from America.
If we're not going to have a Central America Bracket, I'm out.
For the love of Allah... Please fast track this thing through in like 2 days