Lead Guitar: Jimi Page >>>> Angus Vocals: Bon Scott >>> Plant >>>> Brian Johnson Bass: John Paul Jones >>>> Cliff Williams Drums: Bonham >>>> Dirty Deeds Done Cheap Phil Rudd
3 to 1 in favor of Zeppelin.
Scott better than Plant? Sheesh. Dunno about that.
I've never once heard of Bon Scott being mentioned in the same breath as Plant until this thread. Plant's vocal range was way beyond Scott's. Not even close.
Agree, and I like them both. Bon Scott's voice was truly unique, but Plant's voice was much better than Scott's. Plant would be on the Mount Rushmore of hard blues rock voices.
On June 28, 1984, 79-year-old Jennie Vincow was found brutally murdered in her apartment in Glassell Park.[28] She had been stabbed repeatedly while asleep in her bed, and her throat slashed so deeply that she was nearly decapitated.[29] Ramirez's fingerprint was found on a mesh screen he removed to gain access through an open window.[30]
On March 17, 1985, Ramirez attacked 22-year-old Maria Hernandez outside her home in Rosemead, shooting her in the face with a .22 caliber handgun after she pulled into her garage.[31] She survived when the bullet ricocheted off the keys she held in her hands as she lifted them to protect herself.[32] Inside the house was her roommate, Dayle Okazaki, 34, who heard the gunshot and ducked behind a counter when she saw Ramirez enter the kitchen. When she raised her head he shot her once in the forehead, killing her.[33]
Within an hour of the Rosemead home invasion Ramirez pulled 30-year-old Tsai-Lian "Veronica" Yu out of her car in Monterey Park, shot her twice with a .22 caliber handgun, and fled.[34] She was pronounced dead upon arrival at the hospital.[35] The two murders (and third attempt) in a single day attracted extensive coverage from news media, who dubbed the curly-haired attacker with bulging eyes and wide-spaced, rotting teeth "The Walk-in Killer" and "The Valley Intruder".
On March 27, 1985, Ramirez entered a home that he had burglarized a year earlier in Whittier at approximately 2 a.m. and killed the sleeping Vincent Zazzara, age 64, with a gunshot to his head from a .22 caliber handgun.[36] Zazzara's wife Maxine, age 44, was awakened by her husband's murder, and Ramirez beat her and bound her hands while demanding to know where her valuables were.[37] While he ransacked the room, Maxine escaped her bonds and retrieved a shotgun from under the bed, which was not loaded.[38] An infuriated Ramirez shot her three times with the .22, then fetched a large carving knife from the kitchen.[39] Her body was mutilated with multiple stab wounds, and her eyes were gouged out and placed in a jewelry box, which Ramirez left with.[39] The autopsy determined that the mutilations were post-mortem. Ramirez left footprints from a pair of Avia sneakers in the flower beds, which the police photographed and cast. This was virtually the only evidence that the police had at the time. Bullets found at the scene were matched to those found at previous attacks, and the police realized a serial killer was at large. Vincent and Maxine's bodies were discovered by their son, Peter.[40]
On May 14, 1985, Ramirez returned to Monterey Park and entered the home of Bill Doi, 66, and his disabled wife Lillian, 56.[41] Surprising Doi in his bedroom, Ramirez shot him in the face with a .22 semi-automatic pistol as Doi went for his own handgun.[42] After beating the mortally wounded man into unconsciousness, Ramirez entered Lillian's bedroom, bound her with thumbcuffs, then raped her after he had ransacked the home for valuables.[43] Bill Doi died of his injuries while in the hospital.[44]
On the night of May 29, 1985, Ramirez drove a stolen Mercedes-Benz to Monrovia and stopped at the house of Mabel "Ma" Bell, 83, and her sister Florence "Nettie" Lang, 81.[45] Finding a hammer in the kitchen, he bludgeoned and bound the invalid Lang in her bedroom, then bound and bludgeoned Bell before using an electrical cord to shock the woman.[46] After raping Lang, he used Mabel Bell's lipstick to draw a pentagram on her thigh, as well as on the walls of both bedrooms.[46] Discovered two days later, both women were found alive but comatose; Bell later died of her injuries.[47][48]
The next day, he drove the same car to Burbank and snuck into the home of Carol Kyle, 42.[49] At gunpoint, he bound Kyle and her 11-year-old son with handcuffs and ransacked the house.[50] He released Kyle to direct him to where the family's valuables were; he then sodomized her repeatedly.[51] He also repeatedly ordered her not to look at him, telling her at one point that he would "cut her eyes out". He fled the scene after retrieving the child from the closet and binding the two together again with the handcuffs.[52]
On the night of July 2, 1985, he drove a stolen Toyota to Arcadia, randomly selecting the house of Mary Louise Cannon, 75.[53] After quietly entering the widowed grandmother's home, he found her asleep in her bedroom. He bludgeoned her into unconsciousness with a lamp and then repeatedly stabbed her using a 10-inch butcher knife from her kitchen. She was found dead at the crime scene.[53]
On July 5, 1985, Ramirez broke into a home in Sierra Madre and bludgeoned 16-year-old Whitney Bennett with a tire iron as she slept in her bedroom. After searching in vain for a knife in the kitchen, Ramirez attempted to strangle the girl with a telephone cord. He was startled to see sparks emanate from the cord, and when his victim began to breathe, he fled the house believing that Jesus Christ had intervened and saved her.[54] Bennett survived the savage beating, which required 478 stitches to close the lacerations to her scalp.[55]
On July 7, 1985, Ramirez burglarized the home of Joyce Lucille Nelson, 61, in Monterey Park. Finding her asleep on her living room couch, he beat her to death using his fists and kicking her head. A shoe print from an Avia sneaker was left imprinted on her face.[56]
After cruising two other neighborhoods, he returned to Monterey Park and chose the home of Sophie Dickman, 63.[57] Ramirez assaulted and handcuffed Dickman at gunpoint, attempted to rape her, and stole her jewelry; when she swore to him that he had taken everything of value, he told her to "swear on Satan".[58]
On July 20, 1985, Ramirez purchased a machete before driving a stolen Toyota to Glendale.[59] He chose the home of Lela Kneiding, 66, and her husband Maxon, 68.[60] He burst into the sleeping couple's bedroom and hacked them with the machete, then killed them with shots to the head from a .22 caliber handgun.[61] He further mutilated their bodies with the machete before robbing the house of valuables.[61]
After quickly fencing the stolen items from the Kneidling residence, he drove to Sun Valley. At approximately 4:15 am, he broke into the home of the Khovananth family.[62] He murdered Chainarong Khovananth, by shooting the sleeping man in the head with a .25 caliber handgun, killing him instantly.[63] He then repeatedly raped Somkid Khovananth, beating and sodomizing her. He bound the couple's terrified 8-year-old son before dragging Somkid around the house to reveal the location of any valuable items, which he stole. During his assault he demanded that she "swear to Satan" that she was not hiding any money from him.[64]
On August 6, 1985, Ramirez drove to Northridge and broke into the home of Chris and Virginia Peterson.[65][66] Ramirez crept into the bedroom, startling Virginia, 27, prompting him to shoot her in the face with a .25 caliber semi-automatic handgun.[67] He then shot Chris Peterson in the temple and attempted to flee; Chris Peterson fought back while avoiding being hit by two more shots during the struggle before Ramirez managed to escape.[68] The couple survived their injuries.[69]
On August 8, 1985, Ramirez drove a stolen car to Diamond Bar and chose the home of Sakina Abowath, 27, and her husband Elyas Abowath, 31.[70] Sometime after 2:30 am he entered the house and went into the master bedroom. He instantly killed the sleeping Elyas with a shot to the head from a .25 caliber handgun.[71] He handcuffed and beat Sakina while forcing her to reveal the locations of the family's jewelry, and then brutally raped and sodomized her. He repeatedly demanded that she "swear on Satan" that she would not scream during his assaults.[72][73] When the couple's 3-year-old son entered the bedroom, Ramirez tied the child up and then continued to rape Sakina.[74] After Ramirez left the home, Sakina untied her son and sent him to the neighbors for help.[75]
Ramirez, who had been following the media coverage of his crimes, left the Los Angeles area and headed to the San Francisco Bay area.[76] On August 18, 1985, Ramirez entered the home of Peter and Barbara Pan. Peter, aged 66, was killed in his sleep with a gunshot to his temple from a .25 caliber handgun.[77] Barbara, aged 62, was beaten and sexually violated before being shot in the head and left for dead.[78] At the crime scene, Ramirez used lipstick to scrawl a pentagram and the phrase, "Jack the Knife", on the bedroom wall[90]
On June 28, 1984, 79-year-old Jennie Vincow was found brutally murdered in her apartment in Glassell Park.[28] She had been stabbed repeatedly while asleep in her bed, and her throat slashed so deeply that she was nearly decapitated.[29] Ramirez's fingerprint was found on a mesh screen he removed to gain access through an open window.[30]
On March 17, 1985, Ramirez attacked 22-year-old Maria Hernandez outside her home in Rosemead, shooting her in the face with a .22 caliber handgun after she pulled into her garage.[31] She survived when the bullet ricocheted off the keys she held in her hands as she lifted them to protect herself.[32] Inside the house was her roommate, Dayle Okazaki, 34, who heard the gunshot and ducked behind a counter when she saw Ramirez enter the kitchen. When she raised her head he shot her once in the forehead, killing her.[33]
Within an hour of the Rosemead home invasion Ramirez pulled 30-year-old Tsai-Lian "Veronica" Yu out of her car in Monterey Park, shot her twice with a .22 caliber handgun, and fled.[34] She was pronounced dead upon arrival at the hospital.[35] The two murders (and third attempt) in a single day attracted extensive coverage from news media, who dubbed the curly-haired attacker with bulging eyes and wide-spaced, rotting teeth "The Walk-in Killer" and "The Valley Intruder".
On March 27, 1985, Ramirez entered a home that he had burglarized a year earlier in Whittier at approximately 2 a.m. and killed the sleeping Vincent Zazzara, age 64, with a gunshot to his head from a .22 caliber handgun.[36] Zazzara's wife Maxine, age 44, was awakened by her husband's murder, and Ramirez beat her and bound her hands while demanding to know where her valuables were.[37] While he ransacked the room, Maxine escaped her bonds and retrieved a shotgun from under the bed, which was not loaded.[38] An infuriated Ramirez shot her three times with the .22, then fetched a large carving knife from the kitchen.[39] Her body was mutilated with multiple stab wounds, and her eyes were gouged out and placed in a jewelry box, which Ramirez left with.[39] The autopsy determined that the mutilations were post-mortem. Ramirez left footprints from a pair of Avia sneakers in the flower beds, which the police photographed and cast. This was virtually the only evidence that the police had at the time. Bullets found at the scene were matched to those found at previous attacks, and the police realized a serial killer was at large. Vincent and Maxine's bodies were discovered by their son, Peter.[40]
On May 14, 1985, Ramirez returned to Monterey Park and entered the home of Bill Doi, 66, and his disabled wife Lillian, 56.[41] Surprising Doi in his bedroom, Ramirez shot him in the face with a .22 semi-automatic pistol as Doi went for his own handgun.[42] After beating the mortally wounded man into unconsciousness, Ramirez entered Lillian's bedroom, bound her with thumbcuffs, then raped her after he had ransacked the home for valuables.[43] Bill Doi died of his injuries while in the hospital.[44]
On the night of May 29, 1985, Ramirez drove a stolen Mercedes-Benz to Monrovia and stopped at the house of Mabel "Ma" Bell, 83, and her sister Florence "Nettie" Lang, 81.[45] Finding a hammer in the kitchen, he bludgeoned and bound the invalid Lang in her bedroom, then bound and bludgeoned Bell before using an electrical cord to shock the woman.[46] After raping Lang, he used Mabel Bell's lipstick to draw a pentagram on her thigh, as well as on the walls of both bedrooms.[46] Discovered two days later, both women were found alive but comatose; Bell later died of her injuries.[47][48]
The next day, he drove the same car to Burbank and snuck into the home of Carol Kyle, 42.[49] At gunpoint, he bound Kyle and her 11-year-old son with handcuffs and ransacked the house.[50] He released Kyle to direct him to where the family's valuables were; he then sodomized her repeatedly.[51] He also repeatedly ordered her not to look at him, telling her at one point that he would "cut her eyes out". He fled the scene after retrieving the child from the closet and binding the two together again with the handcuffs.[52]
On the night of July 2, 1985, he drove a stolen Toyota to Arcadia, randomly selecting the house of Mary Louise Cannon, 75.[53] After quietly entering the widowed grandmother's home, he found her asleep in her bedroom. He bludgeoned her into unconsciousness with a lamp and then repeatedly stabbed her using a 10-inch butcher knife from her kitchen. She was found dead at the crime scene.[53]
On July 5, 1985, Ramirez broke into a home in Sierra Madre and bludgeoned 16-year-old Whitney Bennett with a tire iron as she slept in her bedroom. After searching in vain for a knife in the kitchen, Ramirez attempted to strangle the girl with a telephone cord. He was startled to see sparks emanate from the cord, and when his victim began to breathe, he fled the house believing that Jesus Christ had intervened and saved her.[54] Bennett survived the savage beating, which required 478 stitches to close the lacerations to her scalp.[55]
On July 7, 1985, Ramirez burglarized the home of Joyce Lucille Nelson, 61, in Monterey Park. Finding her asleep on her living room couch, he beat her to death using his fists and kicking her head. A shoe print from an Avia sneaker was left imprinted on her face.[56]
After cruising two other neighborhoods, he returned to Monterey Park and chose the home of Sophie Dickman, 63.[57] Ramirez assaulted and handcuffed Dickman at gunpoint, attempted to rape her, and stole her jewelry; when she swore to him that he had taken everything of value, he told her to "swear on Satan".[58]
On July 20, 1985, Ramirez purchased a machete before driving a stolen Toyota to Glendale.[59] He chose the home of Lela Kneiding, 66, and her husband Maxon, 68.[60] He burst into the sleeping couple's bedroom and hacked them with the machete, then killed them with shots to the head from a .22 caliber handgun.[61] He further mutilated their bodies with the machete before robbing the house of valuables.[61]
After quickly fencing the stolen items from the Kneidling residence, he drove to Sun Valley. At approximately 4:15 am, he broke into the home of the Khovananth family.[62] He murdered Chainarong Khovananth, by shooting the sleeping man in the head with a .25 caliber handgun, killing him instantly.[63] He then repeatedly raped Somkid Khovananth, beating and sodomizing her. He bound the couple's terrified 8-year-old son before dragging Somkid around the house to reveal the location of any valuable items, which he stole. During his assault he demanded that she "swear to Satan" that she was not hiding any money from him.[64]
On August 6, 1985, Ramirez drove to Northridge and broke into the home of Chris and Virginia Peterson.[65][66] Ramirez crept into the bedroom, startling Virginia, 27, prompting him to shoot her in the face with a .25 caliber semi-automatic handgun.[67] He then shot Chris Peterson in the temple and attempted to flee; Chris Peterson fought back while avoiding being hit by two more shots during the struggle before Ramirez managed to escape.[68] The couple survived their injuries.[69]
On August 8, 1985, Ramirez drove a stolen car to Diamond Bar and chose the home of Sakina Abowath, 27, and her husband Elyas Abowath, 31.[70] Sometime after 2:30 am he entered the house and went into the master bedroom. He instantly killed the sleeping Elyas with a shot to the head from a .25 caliber handgun.[71] He handcuffed and beat Sakina while forcing her to reveal the locations of the family's jewelry, and then brutally raped and sodomized her. He repeatedly demanded that she "swear on Satan" that she would not scream during his assaults.[72][73] When the couple's 3-year-old son entered the bedroom, Ramirez tied the child up and then continued to rape Sakina.[74] After Ramirez left the home, Sakina untied her son and sent him to the neighbors for help.[75]
Ramirez, who had been following the media coverage of his crimes, left the Los Angeles area and headed to the San Francisco Bay area.[76] On August 18, 1985, Ramirez entered the home of Peter and Barbara Pan. Peter, aged 66, was killed in his sleep with a gunshot to his temple from a .25 caliber handgun.[77] Barbara, aged 62, was beaten and sexually violated before being shot in the head and left for dead.[78] At the crime scene, Ramirez used lipstick to scrawl a pentagram and the phrase, "Jack the Knife", on the bedroom wall[90]
On June 28, 1984, 79-year-old Jennie Vincow was found brutally murdered in her apartment in Glassell Park.[28] She had been stabbed repeatedly while asleep in her bed, and her throat slashed so deeply that she was nearly decapitated.[29] Ramirez's fingerprint was found on a mesh screen he removed to gain access through an open window.[30]
On March 17, 1985, Ramirez attacked 22-year-old Maria Hernandez outside her home in Rosemead, shooting her in the face with a .22 caliber handgun after she pulled into her garage.[31] She survived when the bullet ricocheted off the keys she held in her hands as she lifted them to protect herself.[32] Inside the house was her roommate, Dayle Okazaki, 34, who heard the gunshot and ducked behind a counter when she saw Ramirez enter the kitchen. When she raised her head he shot her once in the forehead, killing her.[33]
Within an hour of the Rosemead home invasion Ramirez pulled 30-year-old Tsai-Lian "Veronica" Yu out of her car in Monterey Park, shot her twice with a .22 caliber handgun, and fled.[34] She was pronounced dead upon arrival at the hospital.[35] The two murders (and third attempt) in a single day attracted extensive coverage from news media, who dubbed the curly-haired attacker with bulging eyes and wide-spaced, rotting teeth "The Walk-in Killer" and "The Valley Intruder".
On March 27, 1985, Ramirez entered a home that he had burglarized a year earlier in Whittier at approximately 2 a.m. and killed the sleeping Vincent Zazzara, age 64, with a gunshot to his head from a .22 caliber handgun.[36] Zazzara's wife Maxine, age 44, was awakened by her husband's murder, and Ramirez beat her and bound her hands while demanding to know where her valuables were.[37] While he ransacked the room, Maxine escaped her bonds and retrieved a shotgun from under the bed, which was not loaded.[38] An infuriated Ramirez shot her three times with the .22, then fetched a large carving knife from the kitchen.[39] Her body was mutilated with multiple stab wounds, and her eyes were gouged out and placed in a jewelry box, which Ramirez left with.[39] The autopsy determined that the mutilations were post-mortem. Ramirez left footprints from a pair of Avia sneakers in the flower beds, which the police photographed and cast. This was virtually the only evidence that the police had at the time. Bullets found at the scene were matched to those found at previous attacks, and the police realized a serial killer was at large. Vincent and Maxine's bodies were discovered by their son, Peter.[40]
On May 14, 1985, Ramirez returned to Monterey Park and entered the home of Bill Doi, 66, and his disabled wife Lillian, 56.[41] Surprising Doi in his bedroom, Ramirez shot him in the face with a .22 semi-automatic pistol as Doi went for his own handgun.[42] After beating the mortally wounded man into unconsciousness, Ramirez entered Lillian's bedroom, bound her with thumbcuffs, then raped her after he had ransacked the home for valuables.[43] Bill Doi died of his injuries while in the hospital.[44]
On the night of May 29, 1985, Ramirez drove a stolen Mercedes-Benz to Monrovia and stopped at the house of Mabel "Ma" Bell, 83, and her sister Florence "Nettie" Lang, 81.[45] Finding a hammer in the kitchen, he bludgeoned and bound the invalid Lang in her bedroom, then bound and bludgeoned Bell before using an electrical cord to shock the woman.[46] After raping Lang, he used Mabel Bell's lipstick to draw a pentagram on her thigh, as well as on the walls of both bedrooms.[46] Discovered two days later, both women were found alive but comatose; Bell later died of her injuries.[47][48]
The next day, he drove the same car to Burbank and snuck into the home of Carol Kyle, 42.[49] At gunpoint, he bound Kyle and her 11-year-old son with handcuffs and ransacked the house.[50] He released Kyle to direct him to where the family's valuables were; he then sodomized her repeatedly.[51] He also repeatedly ordered her not to look at him, telling her at one point that he would "cut her eyes out". He fled the scene after retrieving the child from the closet and binding the two together again with the handcuffs.[52]
On the night of July 2, 1985, he drove a stolen Toyota to Arcadia, randomly selecting the house of Mary Louise Cannon, 75.[53] After quietly entering the widowed grandmother's home, he found her asleep in her bedroom. He bludgeoned her into unconsciousness with a lamp and then repeatedly stabbed her using a 10-inch butcher knife from her kitchen. She was found dead at the crime scene.[53]
On July 5, 1985, Ramirez broke into a home in Sierra Madre and bludgeoned 16-year-old Whitney Bennett with a tire iron as she slept in her bedroom. After searching in vain for a knife in the kitchen, Ramirez attempted to strangle the girl with a telephone cord. He was startled to see sparks emanate from the cord, and when his victim began to breathe, he fled the house believing that Jesus Christ had intervened and saved her.[54] Bennett survived the savage beating, which required 478 stitches to close the lacerations to her scalp.[55]
On July 7, 1985, Ramirez burglarized the home of Joyce Lucille Nelson, 61, in Monterey Park. Finding her asleep on her living room couch, he beat her to death using his fists and kicking her head. A shoe print from an Avia sneaker was left imprinted on her face.[56]
After cruising two other neighborhoods, he returned to Monterey Park and chose the home of Sophie Dickman, 63.[57] Ramirez assaulted and handcuffed Dickman at gunpoint, attempted to rape her, and stole her jewelry; when she swore to him that he had taken everything of value, he told her to "swear on Satan".[58]
On July 20, 1985, Ramirez purchased a machete before driving a stolen Toyota to Glendale.[59] He chose the home of Lela Kneiding, 66, and her husband Maxon, 68.[60] He burst into the sleeping couple's bedroom and hacked them with the machete, then killed them with shots to the head from a .22 caliber handgun.[61] He further mutilated their bodies with the machete before robbing the house of valuables.[61]
After quickly fencing the stolen items from the Kneidling residence, he drove to Sun Valley. At approximately 4:15 am, he broke into the home of the Khovananth family.[62] He murdered Chainarong Khovananth, by shooting the sleeping man in the head with a .25 caliber handgun, killing him instantly.[63] He then repeatedly raped Somkid Khovananth, beating and sodomizing her. He bound the couple's terrified 8-year-old son before dragging Somkid around the house to reveal the location of any valuable items, which he stole. During his assault he demanded that she "swear to Satan" that she was not hiding any money from him.[64]
On August 6, 1985, Ramirez drove to Northridge and broke into the home of Chris and Virginia Peterson.[65][66] Ramirez crept into the bedroom, startling Virginia, 27, prompting him to shoot her in the face with a .25 caliber semi-automatic handgun.[67] He then shot Chris Peterson in the temple and attempted to flee; Chris Peterson fought back while avoiding being hit by two more shots during the struggle before Ramirez managed to escape.[68] The couple survived their injuries.[69]
On August 8, 1985, Ramirez drove a stolen car to Diamond Bar and chose the home of Sakina Abowath, 27, and her husband Elyas Abowath, 31.[70] Sometime after 2:30 am he entered the house and went into the master bedroom. He instantly killed the sleeping Elyas with a shot to the head from a .25 caliber handgun.[71] He handcuffed and beat Sakina while forcing her to reveal the locations of the family's jewelry, and then brutally raped and sodomized her. He repeatedly demanded that she "swear on Satan" that she would not scream during his assaults.[72][73] When the couple's 3-year-old son entered the bedroom, Ramirez tied the child up and then continued to rape Sakina.[74] After Ramirez left the home, Sakina untied her son and sent him to the neighbors for help.[75]
Ramirez, who had been following the media coverage of his crimes, left the Los Angeles area and headed to the San Francisco Bay area.[76] On August 18, 1985, Ramirez entered the home of Peter and Barbara Pan. Peter, aged 66, was killed in his sleep with a gunshot to his temple from a .25 caliber handgun.[77] Barbara, aged 62, was beaten and sexually violated before being shot in the head and left for dead.[78] At the crime scene, Ramirez used lipstick to scrawl a pentagram and the phrase, "Jack the Knife", on the bedroom wall[90]
ACDC getting drubbed. Did not see that one coming.
Over several sexts @Swaye was confident AC/DC would win the (fake because voted on) natty, but I felt that Zeppelin would be hard to beat. In any college football message bored, there are going to be a lot of 35- 55 year old, boring ass, slow strategy white guys, who grew up on Zeppelin.
They were never #1 on my list, but always on my Mt Rushmore of rock groups along with the Stones, Beatles and The Who and there's enough people who have them on Rushmore for Zep to always prevail in a tournament like this.
ACDC getting drubbed. Did not see that one coming.
Over several sexts @Swaye was confident AC/DC would win the (fake because voted on) natty, but I felt that Zeppelin would be hard to beat. In any college football message bored, there are going to be a lot of 35- 55 year old, boring ass, slow strategy white guys, who grew up on Zeppelin.
They were never #1 on my list, but always on my Mt Rushmore of rock groups along with the Stones, Beatles and The Who and there's enough people who have them on Rushmore for Zep to always prevail in a tournament like this.
Boring. This was a great idea and well put together. You can't help the lack of taste amongst posters in this shit hole though, and the contest never really was the same after Neil Young died prematurely.
Kinda thud ending but the milktoast degenerates have spoken.
ACDC getting drubbed. Did not see that one coming.
Over several sexts @Swaye was confident AC/DC would win the (fake because voted on) natty, but I felt that Zeppelin would be hard to beat. In any college football message bored, there are going to be a lot of 35- 55 year old, boring ass, slow strategy white guys, who grew up on Zeppelin.
They were never #1 on my list, but always on my Mt Rushmore of rock groups along with the Stones, Beatles and The Who and there's enough people who have them on Rushmore for Zep to always prevail in a tournament like this.
Boring. This was a great idea and well put together. You can't help the lack of taste amongst posters in this shit hole though, and the contest never really was the same after Neil Young died prematurely.
Kinda thud ending but the milktoast degenerates have spoken.
Yeah, not a lot of drama with a Zeppelin - AC/DC final, but, overall, I have been pleased with the interest level here. Neil Young losing to Rod hurt real bad.
ACDC getting drubbed. Did not see that one coming.
Over several sexts @Swaye was confident AC/DC would win the (fake because voted on) natty, but I felt that Zeppelin would be hard to beat. In any college football message bored, there are going to be a lot of 35- 55 year old, boring ass, slow strategy white guys, who grew up on Zeppelin.
They were never #1 on my list, but always on my Mt Rushmore of rock groups along with the Stones, Beatles and The Who and there's enough people who have them on Rushmore for Zep to always prevail in a tournament like this.
Boring. This was a great idea and well put together. You can't help the lack of taste amongst posters in this shit hole though, and the contest never really was the same after Neil Young died prematurely.
Kinda thud ending but the milktoast degenerates have spoken.
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Inspire a serial killer, then pop off.
On March 17, 1985, Ramirez attacked 22-year-old Maria Hernandez outside her home in Rosemead, shooting her in the face with a .22 caliber handgun after she pulled into her garage.[31] She survived when the bullet ricocheted off the keys she held in her hands as she lifted them to protect herself.[32] Inside the house was her roommate, Dayle Okazaki, 34, who heard the gunshot and ducked behind a counter when she saw Ramirez enter the kitchen. When she raised her head he shot her once in the forehead, killing her.[33]
Within an hour of the Rosemead home invasion Ramirez pulled 30-year-old Tsai-Lian "Veronica" Yu out of her car in Monterey Park, shot her twice with a .22 caliber handgun, and fled.[34] She was pronounced dead upon arrival at the hospital.[35] The two murders (and third attempt) in a single day attracted extensive coverage from news media, who dubbed the curly-haired attacker with bulging eyes and wide-spaced, rotting teeth "The Walk-in Killer" and "The Valley Intruder".
On March 27, 1985, Ramirez entered a home that he had burglarized a year earlier in Whittier at approximately 2 a.m. and killed the sleeping Vincent Zazzara, age 64, with a gunshot to his head from a .22 caliber handgun.[36] Zazzara's wife Maxine, age 44, was awakened by her husband's murder, and Ramirez beat her and bound her hands while demanding to know where her valuables were.[37] While he ransacked the room, Maxine escaped her bonds and retrieved a shotgun from under the bed, which was not loaded.[38] An infuriated Ramirez shot her three times with the .22, then fetched a large carving knife from the kitchen.[39] Her body was mutilated with multiple stab wounds, and her eyes were gouged out and placed in a jewelry box, which Ramirez left with.[39] The autopsy determined that the mutilations were post-mortem. Ramirez left footprints from a pair of Avia sneakers in the flower beds, which the police photographed and cast. This was virtually the only evidence that the police had at the time. Bullets found at the scene were matched to those found at previous attacks, and the police realized a serial killer was at large. Vincent and Maxine's bodies were discovered by their son, Peter.[40]
On May 14, 1985, Ramirez returned to Monterey Park and entered the home of Bill Doi, 66, and his disabled wife Lillian, 56.[41] Surprising Doi in his bedroom, Ramirez shot him in the face with a .22 semi-automatic pistol as Doi went for his own handgun.[42] After beating the mortally wounded man into unconsciousness, Ramirez entered Lillian's bedroom, bound her with thumbcuffs, then raped her after he had ransacked the home for valuables.[43] Bill Doi died of his injuries while in the hospital.[44]
On the night of May 29, 1985, Ramirez drove a stolen Mercedes-Benz to Monrovia and stopped at the house of Mabel "Ma" Bell, 83, and her sister Florence "Nettie" Lang, 81.[45] Finding a hammer in the kitchen, he bludgeoned and bound the invalid Lang in her bedroom, then bound and bludgeoned Bell before using an electrical cord to shock the woman.[46] After raping Lang, he used Mabel Bell's lipstick to draw a pentagram on her thigh, as well as on the walls of both bedrooms.[46] Discovered two days later, both women were found alive but comatose; Bell later died of her injuries.[47][48]
The next day, he drove the same car to Burbank and snuck into the home of Carol Kyle, 42.[49] At gunpoint, he bound Kyle and her 11-year-old son with handcuffs and ransacked the house.[50] He released Kyle to direct him to where the family's valuables were; he then sodomized her repeatedly.[51] He also repeatedly ordered her not to look at him, telling her at one point that he would "cut her eyes out". He fled the scene after retrieving the child from the closet and binding the two together again with the handcuffs.[52]
On the night of July 2, 1985, he drove a stolen Toyota to Arcadia, randomly selecting the house of Mary Louise Cannon, 75.[53] After quietly entering the widowed grandmother's home, he found her asleep in her bedroom. He bludgeoned her into unconsciousness with a lamp and then repeatedly stabbed her using a 10-inch butcher knife from her kitchen. She was found dead at the crime scene.[53]
On July 5, 1985, Ramirez broke into a home in Sierra Madre and bludgeoned 16-year-old Whitney Bennett with a tire iron as she slept in her bedroom. After searching in vain for a knife in the kitchen, Ramirez attempted to strangle the girl with a telephone cord. He was startled to see sparks emanate from the cord, and when his victim began to breathe, he fled the house believing that Jesus Christ had intervened and saved her.[54] Bennett survived the savage beating, which required 478 stitches to close the lacerations to her scalp.[55]
On July 7, 1985, Ramirez burglarized the home of Joyce Lucille Nelson, 61, in Monterey Park. Finding her asleep on her living room couch, he beat her to death using his fists and kicking her head. A shoe print from an Avia sneaker was left imprinted on her face.[56]
After cruising two other neighborhoods, he returned to Monterey Park and chose the home of Sophie Dickman, 63.[57] Ramirez assaulted and handcuffed Dickman at gunpoint, attempted to rape her, and stole her jewelry; when she swore to him that he had taken everything of value, he told her to "swear on Satan".[58]
On July 20, 1985, Ramirez purchased a machete before driving a stolen Toyota to Glendale.[59] He chose the home of Lela Kneiding, 66, and her husband Maxon, 68.[60] He burst into the sleeping couple's bedroom and hacked them with the machete, then killed them with shots to the head from a .22 caliber handgun.[61] He further mutilated their bodies with the machete before robbing the house of valuables.[61]
After quickly fencing the stolen items from the Kneidling residence, he drove to Sun Valley. At approximately 4:15 am, he broke into the home of the Khovananth family.[62] He murdered Chainarong Khovananth, by shooting the sleeping man in the head with a .25 caliber handgun, killing him instantly.[63] He then repeatedly raped Somkid Khovananth, beating and sodomizing her. He bound the couple's terrified 8-year-old son before dragging Somkid around the house to reveal the location of any valuable items, which he stole. During his assault he demanded that she "swear to Satan" that she was not hiding any money from him.[64]
On August 6, 1985, Ramirez drove to Northridge and broke into the home of Chris and Virginia Peterson.[65][66] Ramirez crept into the bedroom, startling Virginia, 27, prompting him to shoot her in the face with a .25 caliber semi-automatic handgun.[67] He then shot Chris Peterson in the temple and attempted to flee; Chris Peterson fought back while avoiding being hit by two more shots during the struggle before Ramirez managed to escape.[68] The couple survived their injuries.[69]
On August 8, 1985, Ramirez drove a stolen car to Diamond Bar and chose the home of Sakina Abowath, 27, and her husband Elyas Abowath, 31.[70] Sometime after 2:30 am he entered the house and went into the master bedroom. He instantly killed the sleeping Elyas with a shot to the head from a .25 caliber handgun.[71] He handcuffed and beat Sakina while forcing her to reveal the locations of the family's jewelry, and then brutally raped and sodomized her. He repeatedly demanded that she "swear on Satan" that she would not scream during his assaults.[72][73] When the couple's 3-year-old son entered the bedroom, Ramirez tied the child up and then continued to rape Sakina.[74] After Ramirez left the home, Sakina untied her son and sent him to the neighbors for help.[75]
Ramirez, who had been following the media coverage of his crimes, left the Los Angeles area and headed to the San Francisco Bay area.[76] On August 18, 1985, Ramirez entered the home of Peter and Barbara Pan. Peter, aged 66, was killed in his sleep with a gunshot to his temple from a .25 caliber handgun.[77] Barbara, aged 62, was beaten and sexually violated before being shot in the head and left for dead.[78] At the crime scene, Ramirez used lipstick to scrawl a pentagram and the phrase, "Jack the Knife", on the bedroom wall[90]
Pete good at everything
They were never #1 on my list, but always on my Mt Rushmore of rock groups along with the Stones, Beatles and The Who and there's enough people who have them on Rushmore for Zep to always prevail in a tournament like this.
Kinda thud ending but the milktoast degenerates have spoken.