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Noah Nelson, 2020, 3* OT, Gilbert (Williams Field) AZ (OFFERED 5/8/2018)

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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    I know WDWHA but I'm starting to fucking hate Oklahoma. Fucking WSU knockoff think they can come out West and take whoever they want. I would very much like UW to play them soon.

    WSU knockoff, the fuck are you talking about? Oklahoma is on the Mount Rushmore of CFB programs. They're nothing like WSU. And Norman is nothing like Pullman.
    Lol Mount Rushmore of college football? Fuck outta here. They are not a top-4 program of all time. And yes, they run a knockoff Mike Leach air raid offense so they are a Texas Tech/WSU knockoff with better talent but I would still like UW if they were to play them this season or any season in the near future.
    They're 100% in the top 5. I suppose we can argue which 3 of the other 4 belongs alongside Bama. But they're right there with anybody. Longest win streak in history. Historical excellence and recent relevance. Championships, draft picks, Heismans.

    I fucking hate OU but they're in the handful of best programs ever rather easily. And they're better than UW right now.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited May 2019
    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time win/loss records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    StrongArmCobra said:

    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
    Texas?

    You're not even fucking trying.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited May 2019
    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
    Texas?

    You're not even fucking trying.
    Yes, before they let black people play, Texas was the baddest program in the country for a long time. If we're talking all-time and not just recently, Texas still trumps Oklahoma. Nobody is putting Oklahoma on the Mount Rushmore of college football over Texas.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,207 Swaye's Wigwam
    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
    Texas?

    You're not even fucking trying.
    Yes, before they let black people play, Texas was the baddest program in the country for a long time. If we're talking all-time and not just recently, Texas still trumps Oklahoma.
    Ballz, you read the bar graph... of all time for most of us doesn’t pre-date 1936 unless you’re race.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited May 2019
    dirtysouwfdawg said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
    Texas?

    You're not even fucking trying.
    Yes, before they let black people play, Texas was the baddest program in the country for a long time. If we're talking all-time and not just recently, Texas still trumps Oklahoma.
    Ballz, you read the bar graph... of all time for most of us doesn’t pre-date 1936 unless you’re race.
    I don't care about just fucking national championships. 90-95% of the all-time history of these top programs are seasons in which they didn't win national championships. So who had more success longer? Who has the highest overall win percentage? Who was dominant for longer? Who put more prominent players in the NFL? The Mount Rushmore of college football is Bama, USC, Texas, and Ohio State and I'd put Miami at #5 due to their dominance during peak eras and ridiculous amount of top NFL players they produced. Miami was also just way more swaggy than everybody else and changed college football culture so those great Miami teams will always be remembered as more legendary than any others in college football. Fuck Oklahoma.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,207 Swaye's Wigwam
    StrongArmCobra said:

    dirtysouwfdawg said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
    Texas?

    You're not even fucking trying.
    Yes, before they let black people play, Texas was the baddest program in the country for a long time. If we're talking all-time and not just recently, Texas still trumps Oklahoma.
    Ballz, you read the bar graph... of all time for most of us doesn’t pre-date 1936 unless you’re race.
    I don't care about just fucking national championships. 90-95% of the all-time history of these top programs are seasons in which they didn't win national championships. So who had more success longer? Who has the highest overall win percentage? Who was dominant for longer? Who put more prominent players in the NFL? The Mount Rushmore of college football is Bama, USC, Texas, and Ohio State and I'd put Miami at #5.
    Welcome back ballz. You had a solid few week run.

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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited May 2019
    And fuck you for making me stan for the team I hate more than any team in any sport that doesn't wear grellow or pinstripes.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
    Texas?

    You're not even fucking trying.
    Yes, before they let black people play, Texas was the baddest program in the country for a long time. If we're talking all-time and not just recently, Texas still trumps Oklahoma. Nobody is putting Oklahoma on the Mount Rushmore of college football over Texas.
    Bullshit. OU beats Texas at 10 out of 12 categories on winsipedia.

    Better all time record.
    Almost double the natties.
    18 more conference titles.
    Better bowl record.
    21 more all americans.
    5 more Heisman winners.
    More draft picks.
    More first round picks.
    110 more weeks ranked.
    Over double the weeks at #1.

    Texas wins 2 categories - they've been to 3 more bowl games and have 12 more total wins. You can be generous and add head to head record and Texas gets 3 out of 13.

    That's it. OU is just far more historically significant. It's. Not. Even. Close.

    FOH.


    Texas is Texas baby. Oklahoma will always be their little brother. Texas has won more games than Oklahoma? That settles it then. Hook 'em.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited May 2019
    greenblood said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
    Texas?

    You're not even fucking trying.
    Yes, before they let black people play, Texas was the baddest program in the country for a long time. If we're talking all-time and not just recently, Texas still trumps Oklahoma. Nobody is putting Oklahoma on the Mount Rushmore of college football over Texas.
    Bullshit. OU beats Texas at 10 out of 12 categories on winsipedia.

    Better all time record.
    Almost double the natties.
    18 more conference titles.
    Better bowl record.
    21 more all americans.
    5 more Heisman winners.
    More draft picks.
    More first round picks.
    110 more weeks ranked.
    Over double the weeks at #1.

    Texas wins 2 categories - they've been to 3 more bowl games and have 12 more total wins. You can be generous and add head to head record and Texas gets 3 out of 13.

    That's it. OU is just far more historically significant. It's. Not. Even. Close.

    FOH.


    Texas is Texas baby. Oklahoma will always be their little brother. Texas has won more games than Oklahoma? That settles it then. Hook 'em.
    12 more wins and 45 more losses. Hook ‘em horns! This shit is getting embarrassing Ballz.
    More wins is all that matters! Hook 'em Horns! Fuck Oklahoma!
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    dirtysouwfdawg said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    RaceBannon said:


    Only three national championships under Barry Switzer in the 70's and 80's and one under Stoops in 2000. The rest has been mediocre relative to their talent level and weak conference. Bama, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, and Ohio State are ahead of Oklahoma in all-time success and greatness. There's more to it than just championships. There's also all-time records, bowls games, dominance during their peak eras, length of their peak eras, and number of prominent NFL players over the years which itself gives a program more prestige.
    Texas?

    You're not even fucking trying.
    Yes, before they let black people play, Texas was the baddest program in the country for a long time. If we're talking all-time and not just recently, Texas still trumps Oklahoma.
    Ballz, you read the bar graph... of all time for most of us doesn’t pre-date 1936 unless you’re race.
    I don't care about just fucking national championships. 90-95% of the all-time history of these top programs are seasons in which they didn't win national championships. So who had more success longer? Who has the highest overall win percentage? Who was dominant for longer? Who put more prominent players in the NFL? The Mount Rushmore of college football is Bama, USC, Texas, and Ohio State and I'd put Miami at #5 due to their dominance during peak eras and ridiculous amount of top NFL players they produced. Miami was also just way more swaggy than everybody else and changed college football culture so those great Miami teams will always be remembered as more legendary than any others in college football. Fuck Oklahoma.
    Miami and Texas in the top 5? Jesus fucking Christ, we know you like to just vomit out a Skip Bayless shit take whenever you find yourself in these losing arguments, but this is a new level of Ballz dipshittery.
    The U is legendary.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:


    I don't care about just fucking national championships. 90-95% of the all-time history of these top programs are seasons in which they didn't win national championships. So who had more success longer? Who has the highest overall win percentage? Who was dominant for longer? Who put more prominent players in the NFL? The Mount Rushmore of college football is Bama, USC, Texas, and Ohio State and I'd put Miami at #5 due to their dominance during peak eras and ridiculous amount of top NFL players they produced. Miami was also just way more swaggy than everybody else and changed college football culture so those great Miami teams will always be remembered as more legendary than any others in college football. Fuck Oklahoma.

    Holy shit I didn't even see this gem. Let's do it.
    StrongArmCobra said:


    So who had more success longer?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who has the highest overall win percentage

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who was dominant for longer?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who put more prominent players in the NFL?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Fuck Oklahoma.

    Well you got one thing right.
    Texas is Texas baby. They were the first national powerhouse program in the first half of the 20th century. If you're doing a Mount Rushmore of college football programs they would be George Washington.
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  • HillsboroDuck
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    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:


    I don't care about just fucking national championships. 90-95% of the all-time history of these top programs are seasons in which they didn't win national championships. So who had more success longer? Who has the highest overall win percentage? Who was dominant for longer? Who put more prominent players in the NFL? The Mount Rushmore of college football is Bama, USC, Texas, and Ohio State and I'd put Miami at #5 due to their dominance during peak eras and ridiculous amount of top NFL players they produced. Miami was also just way more swaggy than everybody else and changed college football culture so those great Miami teams will always be remembered as more legendary than any others in college football. Fuck Oklahoma.

    Holy shit I didn't even see this gem. Let's do it.
    StrongArmCobra said:


    So who had more success longer?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who has the highest overall win percentage

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who was dominant for longer?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who put more prominent players in the NFL?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Fuck Oklahoma.

    Well you got one thing right.
    Texas is Texas baby. They were the first national powerhouse program in the first half of the 20th century. If you're doing a Mount Rushmore of college football programs they would be George Washington.
    Notre Dame was the first national powerhouse program.

    Texas doesn't even have a national championship from the first half the 20th century.

    You're seriously not even trying.
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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,525
    This kid isnt coming here. Shut down this thread. It's gone gay
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited May 2019
    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:


    I don't care about just fucking national championships. 90-95% of the all-time history of these top programs are seasons in which they didn't win national championships. So who had more success longer? Who has the highest overall win percentage? Who was dominant for longer? Who put more prominent players in the NFL? The Mount Rushmore of college football is Bama, USC, Texas, and Ohio State and I'd put Miami at #5 due to their dominance during peak eras and ridiculous amount of top NFL players they produced. Miami was also just way more swaggy than everybody else and changed college football culture so those great Miami teams will always be remembered as more legendary than any others in college football. Fuck Oklahoma.

    Holy shit I didn't even see this gem. Let's do it.
    StrongArmCobra said:


    So who had more success longer?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who has the highest overall win percentage

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who was dominant for longer?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who put more prominent players in the NFL?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Fuck Oklahoma.

    Well you got one thing right.
    Texas is Texas baby. They were the first national powerhouse program in the first half of the 20th century. If you're doing a Mount Rushmore of college football programs they would be George Washington.
    Notre Dame was the first national powerhouse program.

    Texas doesn't even have a national championship from the first half the 20th century.

    You're seriously not even trying.
    They do have two, 1914 and 1941.

    But fine the 60's and 70's since you wanna be nit picky.

    Texas is the George Washington of college football. Ain't no doubt about it.

    You wanna replace Texas with Notre Dame in the top-4 as the George Washington? That's fine. You can have that opinion. It's not blasphemous. They're up there. But Oklahoma would still be out of the top-4 in that scenario: Bama, USC, Ohio State, Notre Dame.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,207 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited May 2019
    bananasnblondes said:

    This kid isnt coming here. Shut down this thread. It's gone AIDS


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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:


    I don't care about just fucking national championships. 90-95% of the all-time history of these top programs are seasons in which they didn't win national championships. So who had more success longer? Who has the highest overall win percentage? Who was dominant for longer? Who put more prominent players in the NFL? The Mount Rushmore of college football is Bama, USC, Texas, and Ohio State and I'd put Miami at #5 due to their dominance during peak eras and ridiculous amount of top NFL players they produced. Miami was also just way more swaggy than everybody else and changed college football culture so those great Miami teams will always be remembered as more legendary than any others in college football. Fuck Oklahoma.

    Holy shit I didn't even see this gem. Let's do it.
    StrongArmCobra said:


    So who had more success longer?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who has the highest overall win percentage

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who was dominant for longer?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Who put more prominent players in the NFL?

    Oklahoma
    StrongArmCobra said:


    Fuck Oklahoma.

    Well you got one thing right.
    Texas is Texas baby. They were the first national powerhouse program in the first half of the 20th century. If you're doing a Mount Rushmore of college football programs they would be George Washington.
    Notre Dame was the first national powerhouse program.

    Texas doesn't even have a national championship from the first half the 20th century.

    You're seriously not even trying.
    They do have two, 1914 and 1941.

    But fine the 60's and 70's since you wanna be nit picky.

    Texas is the George Washington of college football. Ain't no doubt about it.

    You wanna replace Texas with Notre Dame in the top-4 as the George Washington? That's fine. You can have that opinion. It's not blasphemous. They're up there. But Oklahoma would still be out of the top-4 in that scenario: Bama, USC, Ohio State, Notre Dame.
    It's Bama in a tier by themselves.

    Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, Notre Dame interchangeable in tier 2. You could argue any 3 of these 4 and I wouldn't be mad, they're indistinguishable.

    Texas makes tier 3 with Nebraska, Michigan and the three Florida schools.
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