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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    BearsWiin said:

    ISAFNRC

    REAL Americans aren't scared by brown people

    Profound Professor.... Profound.

    We need those little brown hustlers to pick the fields, make the hotel beds and take care of creeps lawn. No objecting to, nor discounting this.

    What we don't need is the local governments deciding that every little brown man that ICE is attempting to deal with has somehow gotten a raw deal and is allowed to scurry back into the cracks.

    We also need our Brown people here illegally to pull their weight and not continue to expand the anchor baby factory.

    But really... It's your own fucked up state at the end of the day. So do whatever you want.

    Just don't cry to us here when your activist mayors and sheriff's start ending up in jail themselves.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,457 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    When is #Calexit happening again?

    It looks like the Cali Civil War is up first.

    Push back against sanctuary cites and the homeless camps led by The Resistance in Orange County

    State Attorney General giving veiled threats to arrest the OC Sheriff who is a woman.

    Once upon a time there was the OC Conservative who helped Nixon and Reagan win the state. Yes, the GOP once won Presidential elections in California back in the day

    As far as I know the only two Presidents from California were Nixon and RR

    The democrats have not been able to do it
    Define Irony: Totally okay for a state to dismiss and refuse to enforce federal laws, but an arrestable offense for a local government to dismiss and refuse to enforce state laws. In the same state. Got it.

    #thisonlymakessensetoaliberal
    Axe people from the Souff about a buck foty years ago.
    I've been trying to pin this states rights thing on @CirrhosisDawg for weeks here. Now you chime in

    And lets not forget Counties Rights
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club
    edited March 2018
    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    ISAFNRC

    REAL Americans aren't scared by brown people

    Profound Professor.... Profound.

    We need those little brown hustlers to pick the fields, make the hotel beds and take care of creeps lawn. No objecting to, nor discounting this.

    What we don't need is the local governments deciding that every little brown man that ICE is attempting to deal with has somehow gotten a raw deal and is allowed to scurry back into the cracks.

    We also need our Brown people here illegally to pull their weight and not continue to expand the anchor baby factory.

    But really... It's your own fucked up state at the end of the day. So do whatever you want.

    Just don't cry to us here when your activist mayors and sheriff's start ending up in jail themselves.
    Pretty much agree. The one piece of the sanctuary city logic that I am somewhat sympathetic to - and I'm sure that a compromise could be worked out here - is that we don't want every brown person who is hear illegally to be afraid to talk to the cops out of fear of deportation. We want them to rat on their neighbors when applicable.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,273

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    When is #Calexit happening again?

    It looks like the Cali Civil War is up first.

    Push back against sanctuary cites and the homeless camps led by The Resistance in Orange County

    State Attorney General giving veiled threats to arrest the OC Sheriff who is a woman.

    Once upon a time there was the OC Conservative who helped Nixon and Reagan win the state. Yes, the GOP once won Presidential elections in California back in the day

    As far as I know the only two Presidents from California were Nixon and RR

    The democrats have not been able to do it
    Define Irony: Totally okay for a state to dismiss and refuse to enforce federal laws, but an arrestable offense for a local government to dismiss and refuse to enforce state laws. In the same state. Got it.

    #thisonlymakessensetoaliberal
    Axe people from the Souff about a buck foty years ago.
    I've been trying to pin this states rights thing on @CirrhosisDawg for weeks here. Now you chime in

    And lets not forget Counties Rights
    My go-to on this is the Scalia dissents on Roe and his abortion theories. Leaving something that important to state rights? Ok, sure. If that lands w/ the states, everything else short of national security (hi @oregonblitzkrieg ) arguably lands too.

    All I'll say is this: this federalism thing is hard (it's hard), always has been, always will be. It's an ongoing experiment, as you know, and our founders knew it. You know - you were there!

    Actually, I lied. I'll say this too: during my pretend clerkship at an appellate court after LS I wrote the opinion on a case involving a partition action to separate the surface and mineral estates on a few thousand acres of timberland. Easy, right? No, it was on an Injun Rez (hi @Swaye ). Most complicated shit you'll ever deal with ... the overlay of 150 years of helter skelter Injun policy has created a jurisdictional mess on the Rez, and real property is where it's the biggest mess.

    Bottom line is that, even in those cases, federal law trumps (hee hee) supreme because the rez exists only as a matter of congressional law. The states are different. They have more teeth in this thing, and state's rights are in fact complex. Certainly too much so for Sledog.

    I'm out.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    I'm gonna have a couple little brown employees soon enough


    Gotta work on my espanol
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    When is #Calexit happening again?

    It looks like the Cali Civil War is up first.

    Push back against sanctuary cites and the homeless camps led by The Resistance in Orange County

    State Attorney General giving veiled threats to arrest the OC Sheriff who is a woman.

    Once upon a time there was the OC Conservative who helped Nixon and Reagan win the state. Yes, the GOP once won Presidential elections in California back in the day

    As far as I know the only two Presidents from California were Nixon and RR

    The democrats have not been able to do it
    Define Irony: Totally okay for a state to dismiss and refuse to enforce federal laws, but an arrestable offense for a local government to dismiss and refuse to enforce state laws. In the same state. Got it.

    #thisonlymakessensetoaliberal
    Since I got a 5 on the AP US Guvmint test let me help explain: State Law Trumps both Federal and Local Law. It's called Nullification. Axe John C Calhoun Dawg.
    photo F7FBDEC4-51B9-457D-A12A-3C9D29311FDB_zpsbi4u6sv4.jpg
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    When is #Calexit happening again?

    It looks like the Cali Civil War is up first.

    Push back against sanctuary cites and the homeless camps led by The Resistance in Orange County

    State Attorney General giving veiled threats to arrest the OC Sheriff who is a woman.

    Once upon a time there was the OC Conservative who helped Nixon and Reagan win the state. Yes, the GOP once won Presidential elections in California back in the day

    As far as I know the only two Presidents from California were Nixon and RR

    The democrats have not been able to do it
    Define Irony: Totally okay for a state to dismiss and refuse to enforce federal laws, but an arrestable offense for a local government to dismiss and refuse to enforce state laws. In the same state. Got it.

    #thisonlymakessensetoaliberal
    Axe people from the Souff about a buck foty years ago.
    I've been trying to pin this states rights thing on @CirrhosisDawg for weeks here. Now you chime in

    And lets not forget Counties Rights
    Feds make, fund and enforce immigration law. States cannot impede federal law, but they don’t have to use their personnel, jails or funds to enforce federal laws. Don’t forget: California is a sovereign state.

    This is nothing like Jim Crow. California is not rejecting federal law. If trump needs to deport Mexican nationals to promote his nationalist-nativist agenda, he’s free to do so. He will not get any California tax dollars to support that idiotic agenda. Lipo.

    US law is supreme. States are sovereign. Good luck Orange County (which has the most amazing bars and beaches btw.)
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,567 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    its pretty much a guarantee that any thread about anything CA related totally blows



    Au contraire, my little brown canadian fren.


    I aint brown brah

    In fact im standing outside as we speak so that I can get a bit of color on this Irish ass skin
    So wait, you are Irish Canadian German Messican?
    The Mexican part was made up by obk


    I am german/Irish


    Was born in Canada

    Am a German and American citizen
    Confused you are. Invade, firebomb

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    When is #Calexit happening again?

    It looks like the Cali Civil War is up first.

    Push back against sanctuary cites and the homeless camps led by The Resistance in Orange County

    State Attorney General giving veiled threats to arrest the OC Sheriff who is a woman.

    Once upon a time there was the OC Conservative who helped Nixon and Reagan win the state. Yes, the GOP once won Presidential elections in California back in the day

    As far as I know the only two Presidents from California were Nixon and RR

    The democrats have not been able to do it
    Define Irony: Totally okay for a state to dismiss and refuse to enforce federal laws, but an arrestable offense for a local government to dismiss and refuse to enforce state laws. In the same state. Got it.

    #thisonlymakessensetoaliberal
    Axe people from the Souff about a buck foty years ago.
    I've been trying to pin this states rights thing on @CirrhosisDawg for weeks here. Now you chime in

    And lets not forget Counties Rights
    Feds make, fund and enforce immigration law. States cannot impede federal law, but they don’t have to use their personnel, jails or funds to enforce federal laws. Don’t forget: California is a sovereign state.

    This is nothing like Jim Crow. California is not rejecting federal law. If trump needs to deport Mexican nationals to promote his nationalist-nativist agenda, he’s free to do so. He will not get any California tax dollars to support that idiotic agenda. Lipo.

    US law is supreme. States are sovereign. Good luck Orange County (which has the most amazing bars and beaches btw.)
    The feds kick lots of money to the states for law enforcement. That they all fora phone call isn't exactly costly.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,499 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Swaye said:

    its pretty much a guarantee that any thread about anything CA related totally blows



    Au contraire, my little brown canadian fren.


    I aint brown brah

    In fact im standing outside as we speak so that I can get a bit of color on this Irish ass skin
    So wait, you are Irish Canadian German Messican?
    The Mexican part was made up by obk


    I am german/Irish


    Was born in Canada

    Am a German and American citizen
    Confused you are. Invade, firebomb

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    When is #Calexit happening again?

    It looks like the Cali Civil War is up first.

    Push back against sanctuary cites and the homeless camps led by The Resistance in Orange County

    State Attorney General giving veiled threats to arrest the OC Sheriff who is a woman.

    Once upon a time there was the OC Conservative who helped Nixon and Reagan win the state. Yes, the GOP once won Presidential elections in California back in the day

    As far as I know the only two Presidents from California were Nixon and RR

    The democrats have not been able to do it
    Define Irony: Totally okay for a state to dismiss and refuse to enforce federal laws, but an arrestable offense for a local government to dismiss and refuse to enforce state laws. In the same state. Got it.

    #thisonlymakessensetoaliberal
    Axe people from the Souff about a buck foty years ago.
    I've been trying to pin this states rights thing on @CirrhosisDawg for weeks here. Now you chime in

    And lets not forget Counties Rights
    Feds make, fund and enforce immigration law. States cannot impede federal law, but they don’t have to use their personnel, jails or funds to enforce federal laws. Don’t forget: California is a sovereign state.

    This is nothing like Jim Crow. California is not rejecting federal law. If trump needs to deport Mexican nationals to promote his nationalist-nativist agenda, he’s free to do so. He will not get any California tax dollars to support that idiotic agenda. Lipo.

    US law is supreme. States are sovereign. Good luck Orange County (which has the most amazing bars and beaches btw.)
    The feds kick lots of money to the states for law enforcement. That they all fora phone call isn't exactly costly.
    This is truth.

    On all federal grants there is a certification requiring cities to comply with federal law. Not just some federal laws - all of them.

    At some point, this Trump card will be played and the $$$ flow will stop. My money is on Seattle or San Fran to be the poster whipping boys. If Inslee keeps up his shit, Seattle is odds on favorite.