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Tiesto says the album is dead

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  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,861 Swaye's Wigwam
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,382
    Will Taft be to the Shoppe what Hondo is to the Tug?
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,695
    Tiesto is a bitch!

    He's just jealous he didn't make Tranceport back in the 90s!
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,695
    NEsnake12 said:

    I’ll weigh in as a millennial:

    Vast majority of popular artists these days care more about making hit songs than good albums, because that’s where all the money is. Consumers aren’t buying albums anymore, it’s almost entirely streaming based. And one hit song played 10 million times makes more money than a 15 track album that gets 100k hits on each track. And for lesser known bands/artists, it’s easier to sell concert tickets if you have a hit song.

    Essentially, the only reason to make a great album without hit songs is if you’re both established in popularity and stable financially. Best recent example of this was Kendrick Lamar’s “To Pimp a Butterfly” which got a ton of album sales and award nominations despite no hit songs. No way Kendrick makes that album (and no way it gets the recognition it got) if he wasn’t already massively popular.

    hes not. because i cant name any songs by him.

    If you listen to kendrick lamar I can assure you youre a fag.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,605 Swaye's Wigwam
    The CD has been dead since Napster. I still check out albums, but having the ability to Google the artist's best song changed things. Sifting thru an album to find the 2-3 songs you like is too much work.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,911 Founders Club

    The CD has been dead since Napster. I still check out albums, but having the ability to Google the artist's best song changed things. Sifting thru an album to find the 2-3 songs you like is too much work.

    Pretty much. I was a long time hold out for CDs but haven't bought one in years. I still play them periodically at home if I don't have a vinyl pressing of the same album and they still beat Spotify or Pandora on a home stereo by a mile.

    Interestingly enough, vinyl is up to whopping 8.6% market share for albums "purchased" - i.e., LP, CDs and Downloads. The percentage drops a lot, however, when you factor in all music consumed, inc. streaming services. Still, the record companies are reinvesting in vinyl as a lucrative, albeit niche market. Sony, for instance, just announced that they will start pressing vinyl again in house for the first time since 1989.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    The CD has been dead since Napster. I still check out albums, but having the ability to Google the artist's best song changed things. Sifting thru an album to find the 2-3 songs you like is too much work.

    This is how you miss songs that kick ass. Grinder by Judas Priest and Kicked in the Teeth by AC/DC weren't hit songs, but they are great songs, and worth taking the time to find and listen to.

    You're just cheating yourself by not listening to a whole "album". It would be like listening to You Shook Me All Night Long and thinking you heard everything good from Back In Black.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,911 Founders Club
    dflea said:

    The CD has been dead since Napster. I still check out albums, but having the ability to Google the artist's best song changed things. Sifting thru an album to find the 2-3 songs you like is too much work.

    This is how you miss songs that kick ass. Grinder by Judas Priest and Kicked in the Teeth by AC/DC weren't hit songs, but they are great songs, and worth taking the time to find and listen to.

    You're just cheating yourself by not listening to a whole "album". It would be like listening to You Shook Me All Night Long and thinking you heard everything good from Back In Black.

    One point that I don't think gets made enough as it relates to the rock of the 60's, 70' and 80's vs today, is that the further along we get it becomes harder and harder to keep reinventing the wheel. Think of it this way: Highway to Hell and B.I.B. were great albums from start to finish BUT at the point in time, AC DC, was still creating a sound that was new and fresh and had progressed a lot from Jailbreak and High Voltage. But I don't think I could even name one song of theirs past the Razor's Edge; eventually they were going to run out of ideas.

    Fast forward to the new bands, and I'll ask this: How many new ideas are there left to try out? Not saying it's impossible to still write good songs, but it gets progressively harder as time goes on.