Is Gonzaga the best program on the West Coast?
Oregon is trying but probably never going to be a perennial contender
UCLA can't seem to figure it out. Only Howland was successful for them these past 20 years
Who else is there? And how pathetic is this? And do we even care?
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Unquestionably, yes. Few is also a hof coach.
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Yes-- and it is truly pathetic. Few is a top 5 coach IMO, but a shitty catholic school in Spokane should not be running circles around the PAC.
It starts with better coaching. We'll see what replaces Miller and Alford, the PAC desperately needs those hires to be good.
In football we're seeing the same thing. Thank god for Chip. -
You can't be a top 5 coach if you hardly ever win in March.
Few is Tony Bennett with slightly better recruiting and slightly less embarrassing losses. Very good coach. Probably worthy HOF'er.
Not elite as long as he only has one F4 on his resume.
But yes they're the premier program on the West Coast.
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Lets revisit this in a few days. Only Florida State stands between the Zags and their third Elite Eight in four years.dnc said:You can't be a top 5 coach if you hardly ever win in March.
Few is Tony Bennett with slightly better recruiting and slightly less embarrassing losses. Very good coach. Probably worthy HOF'er.
Not elite as long as he only has one F4 on his resume.
But yes they're the premier program on the West Coast.
Sark > Ty
Yes Few was upset three times in the second round as a 1-3 seed (2004, 2005, 2013) but he also reached the Sweet 16s three times as a 10 or worse seed (2000, 2001, 2016.) -
Sean Miller is Romar on steroids.
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2 Elite 8s and a Final 4 in 19 years = Elite coach?FremontTroll said:
Lets revisit this in a few days. Only Florida State stands between the Zags and their third Elite Eight in four years.dnc said:You can't be a top 5 coach if you hardly ever win in March.
Few is Tony Bennett with slightly better recruiting and slightly less embarrassing losses. Very good coach. Probably worthy HOF'er.
Not elite as long as he only has one F4 on his resume.
But yes they're the premier program on the West Coast.
Sark > Ty
Yes Few was upset three times in the second round as a 1-3 seed (2004, 2005, 2013) but he also reached the Sweet 16s three times as a 10 or worse seed (2000, 2001, 2016.)
Sorry man, can't get behind that. If he wins a title this year we can revisit this conversation. Otherwise his results in March have been too mediocre for one more E8 run to overcome. -
Few has no excuse to not have another F4 this year
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People forget it took John Wooden 16 years before he made it to a Final Four.dnc said:
2 Elite 8s and a Final 4 in 19 years = Elite coach?FremontTroll said:
Lets revisit this in a few days. Only Florida State stands between the Zags and their third Elite Eight in four years.dnc said:You can't be a top 5 coach if you hardly ever win in March.
Few is Tony Bennett with slightly better recruiting and slightly less embarrassing losses. Very good coach. Probably worthy HOF'er.
Not elite as long as he only has one F4 on his resume.
But yes they're the premier program on the West Coast.
Sark > Ty
Yes Few was upset three times in the second round as a 1-3 seed (2004, 2005, 2013) but he also reached the Sweet 16s three times as a 10 or worse seed (2000, 2001, 2016.)
Sorry man, can't get behind that. If he wins a title this year we can revisit this conversation. Otherwise his results in March have been too mediocre for one more E8 run to overcome.
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At a program like Gonzaga, yes.dnc said:
2 Elite 8s and a Final 4 in 19 years = Elite coach?FremontTroll said:
Lets revisit this in a few days. Only Florida State stands between the Zags and their third Elite Eight in four years.dnc said:You can't be a top 5 coach if you hardly ever win in March.
Few is Tony Bennett with slightly better recruiting and slightly less embarrassing losses. Very good coach. Probably worthy HOF'er.
Not elite as long as he only has one F4 on his resume.
But yes they're the premier program on the West Coast.
Sark > Ty
Yes Few was upset three times in the second round as a 1-3 seed (2004, 2005, 2013) but he also reached the Sweet 16s three times as a 10 or worse seed (2000, 2001, 2016.)
Sorry man, can't get behind that. If he wins a title this year we can revisit this conversation. Otherwise his results in March have been too mediocre for one more E8 run to overcome.
Yes, prior to the last few years Gonzaga had a few chokes in the Dance. But people forget how ridiculously unlikely it was for Gonzaga to become a perennial high seed in the first place.
Gonzaga's first NIT appearance ever was 1994. First NCAA appearance ever was 1995. Their first tournament win ever was 1999 which, luckily for the Zags, Monson quickly parlayed into a big contract at Minnesota. Shades of Dan Hawkins to Colorado.
Prior to Few becoming an assistant they had only won their conference two times EVER. They won the conference four times in ten years while he was an assistant. And now 17 times in 19 years with Few in charge.
Few's success at the mid-major level is unprecedented. The closest recent comparison I can think of is Gregg Marshall at Wichita State.
Tournament record: 10-7. vs. 28-18
NCAA appearances: 7 in 11 years vs. 19 in 19.
Deepest runs: Two S16, one F4 in 11 years vs Seven S16, two E8, one runner up in 19 years (and still alive.)
Conf Champs: Five in 11 years vs. 17 in 19 years.
Overall winning pct: .747 vs. .821
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Last time GU didn't win at least one NCAA game was 11 years ago (counting this year).dnc said:You can't be a top 5 coach if you hardly ever win in March.
Few is Tony Bennett with slightly better recruiting and slightly less embarrassing losses. Very good coach. Probably worthy HOF'er.
Not elite as long as he only has one F4 on his resume.
But yes they're the premier program on the West Coast.
Sark > Ty
In that time they've had 3 S16, two E8 and a championship game.
"Hardly ever win in March?"
