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Daniel Day Lewis the finest actor of our time. We can all agree on this.creepycoug said:
While I was sympathetic to Bill the Butcher, it's mostly because I think Daniel Day Lewis is a good fucking actor. Otherwise, the nativist isn't my side. I much prefer the scrappy new comer.YellowSnow said:
A flaw in your argument, Creep, is that is doesn't take into account the ginormous social costs of having such a large percentage of low skilled, blue collar natives dropping out of the work force. It may cost you less to have the roofing company hire hardworking Jose to put new shingles on your house, but you're still paying hurty back, white guy's disability. We need to get the natives that can and should be working back into the labor force before we open the gates. That they don't want to work simply means we've made it too easy for them not to.creepycoug said:
If that were true, so be it. But it's not. It affects fourth generation Americans who were raised by people who can't get it done. So sorry for them. I grew up in a town full of that shit: they're mediocre and clueless, and were raised that way. Look at Salemcoog, and how he fumbles and bumbles his way around here. Exhibit A. Can you imagine him competing in a competitive labor pool?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skin fronts too. Large, unregulated immigration is racist because it primarily adversely affects minorities already living in the US.HoustonHusky said:
He is...large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skill fronts.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If Trump just focused on the economy, people would like him.RaceBannon said:
In my opinion the best we can do is get equal treatment under the law, equality in employment and housing, and the elimination of other institutional racism that effects lives.creepycoug said:
I don't disagree with that at all. I also tend to accept it as a reality of life.RaceBannon said:
Let me tell you something kid. I've experienced a lot of real racism over the last 35 years. Its probably the only issue I actually take seriously here.insinceredawg said:
It's funny that you continue to deny that Troomps are racist. While you're not as blatantly racist as others, look at your fellow deplorable Troomps on this board who are openly racist - OBK, Sledog, doogie, pawz, etc. You are the company you keep.RaceBannon said:
Hiding behind ignorance isn't a good look. Simple question - are they shitholes or not?insinceredawg said:
I wouldn't know, I've never been. You're missing the point though. The outrage isn't that he insulted the countries, it's that he said "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" which is basically saying "why are we letting more brown people in?". While I'm sure you and your fellow Troomps share the same sentiment, that is a ridiculous statement for the president to make in a formal meeting.RaceBannon said:insinceredawg said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/durbin-trump-said-shithole-repeatedly-comments-were-vile-racist-n837116RaceBannon said:
There is no evidence that Trump spoke this truth and Swaye pointing out that it is true has nothing to do with your fantasies about sucking dick2001400ex said:@Swaye I don't put you as a Trump dick sucker like Race. And I really don't give a shit if Trump calls them shit holes. However, people in those countries do care. Do you think at this point in time, we really need to alienate our country from literally every other country in the world? Except Norway I guess.
I don't know anything about Durbin but I would take almost anyone's word over the Stable Genius, who has zero credibility and proven to be a pathological liar
Do you think those countries are shitholes?
That's the point
He didn't say anything about brown people in what he may or may not have said
Calling me and Trump voters racist is all you really care about. It won't work any better next time than it did last time
Its you that has the focus on skin color for the reason the place is a shithole.
So back to the Stable Genius, why do you think he questions why we should let more immigrants in from the "shithole" countries if it's not the color of their skin?
I don't care if some ignorant twit like you calls me a racist. I care about the devaluation of racism by the left. If everything is racist nothing is and the racists get an excuse to ignore the remaining real racism left here.
The democrats need to actually put forward a platform to help all Americans including minorities rather than running on the GOP is racist and so are their voters so vote for us!
Hillary had no answers so she sat home and let Trump take the 3 states he needed. He's doing things for this economy that will get him reelected. Nothing from the dems but more cries of racism. Its all you have.
Trump and others have been clear that American immigration policy should help America. It has nothing to do with color. It has to do with skills and the ability to self support once here.
@creepycoug 's happy janitor notwithstanding
Guess what? People dislike other people for all manner of sane, rational, smart, stupid, insane, irrational, biased and other reasons. It's the way it is. I don't take it personally, but I don't pretend it's not there either.
If the standard is to get everyone thinking equality we'll never get there. The point about white racism is the historical institutions that were tainted by it.
But your right, all sorts of different races hate other races and everyone hates whitey. So there's that.
My point is the dems need a better campaign than calling everyone racist. It really does water it down to a meaningless thing. Because elections are about public policy and economic policy should benefit the most Americans regardless of race. A tax cut is not racist. How stupid does that look in print yet that's one of the arguments against it.
You think most people are going to hear 'Trump wants to limit immigration from "shithole" countries' and think 'hummm, that's not a good idea?'
Better enjoy the hysteria for the next couple of days...Monday could be interesting.
But I don't care. However they got there, they're a net drag and I'm not going to pay enough for them to mow my lawn so they can have "comparable benefits" and "have a working wage" and live like I (pretend to) do. At that price, I'll mow it myself. Fortunately, I haven't mowed my lawn in 10 years.
Besides, there's this assumption that I'm only focused on low skilled labor. I have no problem with brown immigrants from another shithole who aren't so low skilled. Bring as many Indians here as Microsoft can handle. I'm not worried; my kids are good at math.
If we run out of low skilled jobs, and if we tighten the dole (for domestic and immigrant people alike), then they won't come. It's really simple. If you let economics play out, it's really fucking simple.
Not sure of OBK's deal, but I know entirely why Salem is scured. Think about it. He lives in Salem and had to settle for the short-bus of public universities. Basically everyone is competition for him. -
Donnie comes from a place where a stranger will save your life by grabbing you by the collar and pulling you back onto the curb as you're about to step in front of a bus, then smack you upside the head, say "Wake up, asshole! You trying to kill yourself or what?" Then he'll walk away, after saving your life and trying to teach you a lesson.creepycoug said:
TQ = Tequilla?RaceBannon said:
Your pressingcreepycoug said:
Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.CuntWaffle said:They are shitholes. Another non issue being blown out of proportion.
I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.
It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.
Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.
Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.
Just fuck.
When you go TQ its a tell
Sure, that's fair.
I'm not sure which part you find to be pressing, or that I even know what pressing means here anymore, so to be clear, I posit:
- I hereby discriminate against the white Norwegian socialist;
- I want all the hungry brown and other color people we can get (as a guy pushing REITs you should agree with this);
- I don't know what Donnie said;
- I suspect Donnie is somewhat uncomfortable with non-white people;
- I don't care if he is or isn't; and
- It's entirely ok to call other countries "shit holes" if they are.
The rest is chit chat. It would be terribly unusual for a standing US Pres to say such a thing, but we know that Donnie, love him or hate him, is unusual. We also have enough to draw some inference that he's not a big fan of poor brown people from elsewhere. At least a lot of us believe that to be the case.
PS: timber REITs are particularly nice, because your dividend was always taxed at the capital gains rate, and sometimes you get a return of capital in your dividend and pay no tax on that portion at all. You're welcome.
Most people in America won't do that, and will watch quietly as you get run over and killed. I'll take the brashness and balls of the orange guy from Queens any day over the pussies that populate most American cities. Love him or hate him, Donnie's got balls and no time for Political Correctness like the guys across the couch from him who think the exact same things but are petrified to say it publicly. -
You sound poor.CirrhosisDawg said:
Don’t forget the nanny, landscapers, architects, real estate agents, personal trainers, tutors for the kids taking the Loyola entrance exam, country club membership, yoga club, kid etiquette classes, and membership at the Huntington library. It’s paradise but damn it’s expensive.RaceBannon said:The great thing about a diverse state like California is that you don't just need lawn care you need pool boys too
Land of opportunity -
No.YellowSnow said:
Daniel Day Lewis the finest actor of our time. We can all agree on this.creepycoug said:
While I was sympathetic to Bill the Butcher, it's mostly because I think Daniel Day Lewis is a good fucking actor. Otherwise, the nativist isn't my side. I much prefer the scrappy new comer.YellowSnow said:
A flaw in your argument, Creep, is that is doesn't take into account the ginormous social costs of having such a large percentage of low skilled, blue collar natives dropping out of the work force. It may cost you less to have the roofing company hire hardworking Jose to put new shingles on your house, but you're still paying hurty back, white guy's disability. We need to get the natives that can and should be working back into the labor force before we open the gates. That they don't want to work simply means we've made it too easy for them not to.creepycoug said:
If that were true, so be it. But it's not. It affects fourth generation Americans who were raised by people who can't get it done. So sorry for them. I grew up in a town full of that shit: they're mediocre and clueless, and were raised that way. Look at Salemcoog, and how he fumbles and bumbles his way around here. Exhibit A. Can you imagine him competing in a competitive labor pool?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skin fronts too. Large, unregulated immigration is racist because it primarily adversely affects minorities already living in the US.HoustonHusky said:
He is...large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skill fronts.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If Trump just focused on the economy, people would like him.RaceBannon said:
In my opinion the best we can do is get equal treatment under the law, equality in employment and housing, and the elimination of other institutional racism that effects lives.creepycoug said:
I don't disagree with that at all. I also tend to accept it as a reality of life.RaceBannon said:
Let me tell you something kid. I've experienced a lot of real racism over the last 35 years. Its probably the only issue I actually take seriously here.insinceredawg said:
It's funny that you continue to deny that Troomps are racist. While you're not as blatantly racist as others, look at your fellow deplorable Troomps on this board who are openly racist - OBK, Sledog, doogie, pawz, etc. You are the company you keep.RaceBannon said:
Hiding behind ignorance isn't a good look. Simple question - are they shitholes or not?insinceredawg said:
I wouldn't know, I've never been. You're missing the point though. The outrage isn't that he insulted the countries, it's that he said "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" which is basically saying "why are we letting more brown people in?". While I'm sure you and your fellow Troomps share the same sentiment, that is a ridiculous statement for the president to make in a formal meeting.RaceBannon said:insinceredawg said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/durbin-trump-said-shithole-repeatedly-comments-were-vile-racist-n837116RaceBannon said:
There is no evidence that Trump spoke this truth and Swaye pointing out that it is true has nothing to do with your fantasies about sucking dick2001400ex said:@Swaye I don't put you as a Trump dick sucker like Race. And I really don't give a shit if Trump calls them shit holes. However, people in those countries do care. Do you think at this point in time, we really need to alienate our country from literally every other country in the world? Except Norway I guess.
I don't know anything about Durbin but I would take almost anyone's word over the Stable Genius, who has zero credibility and proven to be a pathological liar
Do you think those countries are shitholes?
That's the point
He didn't say anything about brown people in what he may or may not have said
Calling me and Trump voters racist is all you really care about. It won't work any better next time than it did last time
Its you that has the focus on skin color for the reason the place is a shithole.
So back to the Stable Genius, why do you think he questions why we should let more immigrants in from the "shithole" countries if it's not the color of their skin?
I don't care if some ignorant twit like you calls me a racist. I care about the devaluation of racism by the left. If everything is racist nothing is and the racists get an excuse to ignore the remaining real racism left here.
The democrats need to actually put forward a platform to help all Americans including minorities rather than running on the GOP is racist and so are their voters so vote for us!
Hillary had no answers so she sat home and let Trump take the 3 states he needed. He's doing things for this economy that will get him reelected. Nothing from the dems but more cries of racism. Its all you have.
Trump and others have been clear that American immigration policy should help America. It has nothing to do with color. It has to do with skills and the ability to self support once here.
@creepycoug 's happy janitor notwithstanding
Guess what? People dislike other people for all manner of sane, rational, smart, stupid, insane, irrational, biased and other reasons. It's the way it is. I don't take it personally, but I don't pretend it's not there either.
If the standard is to get everyone thinking equality we'll never get there. The point about white racism is the historical institutions that were tainted by it.
But your right, all sorts of different races hate other races and everyone hates whitey. So there's that.
My point is the dems need a better campaign than calling everyone racist. It really does water it down to a meaningless thing. Because elections are about public policy and economic policy should benefit the most Americans regardless of race. A tax cut is not racist. How stupid does that look in print yet that's one of the arguments against it.
You think most people are going to hear 'Trump wants to limit immigration from "shithole" countries' and think 'hummm, that's not a good idea?'
Better enjoy the hysteria for the next couple of days...Monday could be interesting.
But I don't care. However they got there, they're a net drag and I'm not going to pay enough for them to mow my lawn so they can have "comparable benefits" and "have a working wage" and live like I (pretend to) do. At that price, I'll mow it myself. Fortunately, I haven't mowed my lawn in 10 years.
Besides, there's this assumption that I'm only focused on low skilled labor. I have no problem with brown immigrants from another shithole who aren't so low skilled. Bring as many Indians here as Microsoft can handle. I'm not worried; my kids are good at math.
If we run out of low skilled jobs, and if we tighten the dole (for domestic and immigrant people alike), then they won't come. It's really simple. If you let economics play out, it's really fucking simple.
Not sure of OBK's deal, but I know entirely why Salem is scured. Think about it. He lives in Salem and had to settle for the short-bus of public universities. Basically everyone is competition for him.
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Does your family hate you, too?CirrhosisDawg said:
Good Americans don’t need help. If 1 million third world refugees and immigrants threaten any natives, those natives should be deported. They wasted their opportunity and their lives. Fuck them.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:At least 70% of the countries on earth are shitholes. So fucking what. It has nothing to do with race. The media and SJW's spin it that way
One thing I hate about most liberals today is that they conflate everything into racism, sexism, or some other ism with help from media talking heads.
We have enough immigrants here already. There are more than enough. What is wrong with Trump vying for more skilled and educated types and cutting it from 1,000,000 to 500,000 per year. Half a million isn't enough? Bullshit. There are plenty of good Americans in need of help here already. Throw some resources their way. -
FRANNY busted.TurdBuffer said:
Does your family hate you, too?CirrhosisDawg said:
Good Americans don’t need help. If 1 million third world refugees and immigrants threaten any natives, those natives should be deported. They wasted their opportunity and their lives. Fuck them.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:At least 70% of the countries on earth are shitholes. So fucking what. It has nothing to do with race. The media and SJW's spin it that way
One thing I hate about most liberals today is that they conflate everything into racism, sexism, or some other ism with help from media talking heads.
We have enough immigrants here already. There are more than enough. What is wrong with Trump vying for more skilled and educated types and cutting it from 1,000,000 to 500,000 per year. Half a million isn't enough? Bullshit. There are plenty of good Americans in need of help here already. Throw some resources their way.
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Another good point. My post is obviously extreme. One million native born Americans aren’t getting deported.Dawgtona said:
Jesus Christ you are an epic level douchebag. Kill yourself. No one would miss you.CirrhosisDawg said:
Good Americans don’t need help. If 1 million third world refugees and immigrants threaten any natives, those natives should be deported. They wasted their opportunity and their lives. Fuck them.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:At least 70% of the countries on earth are shitholes. So fucking what. It has nothing to do with race. The media and SJW's spin it that way
One thing I hate about most liberals today is that they conflate everything into racism, sexism, or some other ism with help from media talking heads.
We have enough immigrants here already. There are more than enough. What is wrong with Trump vying for more skilled and educated types and cutting it from 1,000,000 to 500,000 per year. Half a million isn't enough? Bullshit. There are plenty of good Americans in need of help here already. Throw some resources their way.
They are going to go on welfare and live in public housing for the rest of their wasted lives.
It’s sad to see, but apparently a third world labor force imposes too much competition on America’s Trump class. Sad. Very sad. -
Does your family hate you, too?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
FRANNY busted.TurdBuffer said:
Does your family hate you, too?CirrhosisDawg said:
Good Americans don’t need help. If 1 million third world refugees and immigrants threaten any natives, those natives should be deported. They wasted their opportunity and their lives. Fuck them.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:At least 70% of the countries on earth are shitholes. So fucking what. It has nothing to do with race. The media and SJW's spin it that way
One thing I hate about most liberals today is that they conflate everything into racism, sexism, or some other ism with help from media talking heads.
We have enough immigrants here already. There are more than enough. What is wrong with Trump vying for more skilled and educated types and cutting it from 1,000,000 to 500,000 per year. Half a million isn't enough? Bullshit. There are plenty of good Americans in need of help here already. Throw some resources their way.
Sincerely,
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RaceBannon said:
Let me tell you something kid. I've experienced a lot of real racism over the last 35 years. Its probably the only issue I actually take seriously here.insinceredawg said:
It's funny that you continue to deny that Troomps are racist. While you're not as blatantly racist as others, look at your fellow deplorable Troomps on this board who are openly racist - OBK, Sledog, doogie, pawz, etc. You are the company you keep.RaceBannon said:
Hiding behind ignorance isn't a good look. Simple question - are they shitholes or not?insinceredawg said:
I wouldn't know, I've never been. You're missing the point though. The outrage isn't that he insulted the countries, it's that he said "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" which is basically saying "why are we letting more brown people in?". While I'm sure you and your fellow Troomps share the same sentiment, that is a ridiculous statement for the president to make in a formal meeting.RaceBannon said:insinceredawg said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/durbin-trump-said-shithole-repeatedly-comments-were-vile-racist-n837116RaceBannon said:
There is no evidence that Trump spoke this truth and Swaye pointing out that it is true has nothing to do with your fantasies about sucking dick2001400ex said:@Swaye I don't put you as a Trump dick sucker like Race. And I really don't give a shit if Trump calls them shit holes. However, people in those countries do care. Do you think at this point in time, we really need to alienate our country from literally every other country in the world? Except Norway I guess.
I don't know anything about Durbin but I would take almost anyone's word over the Stable Genius, who has zero credibility and proven to be a pathological liar
Do you think those countries are shitholes?
That's the point
He didn't say anything about brown people in what he may or may not have said
Calling me and Trump voters racist is all you really care about. It won't work any better next time than it did last time
Its you that has the focus on skin color for the reason the place is a shithole.
So back to the Stable Genius, why do you think he questions why we should let more immigrants in from the "shithole" countries if it's not the color of their skin?
I don't care if some ignorant twit like you calls me a racist. I care about the devaluation of racism by the left. If everything is racist nothing is and the racists get an excuse to ignore the remaining real racism left here.
The democrats need to actually put forward a platform to help all Americans including minorities rather than running on the GOP is racist and so are their voters so vote for us!
Hillary had no answers so she sat home and let Trump take the 3 states he needed. He's doing things for this economy that will get him reelected. Nothing from the dems but more cries of racism. Its all you have.
Trump and others have been clear that American immigration policy should help America. It has nothing to do with color. It has to do with skills and the ability to self support once here.
@creepycoug 's happy janitor notwithstanding
To expound on Senator Bannon's poont on Democrats demurring on race. It's sad because it's the most oft-played card in their deck.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect
Observer bias
The related social-science term observer bias is error introduced into measurement when observers overemphasize behavior they expect to find and fail to notice behavior they do not expect. This is why medical trials are normally double-blind rather than single-blind. Observer bias can also be introduced because researchers see a behavior and interpret it according to what it means to them, whereas it may mean something else to the person showing the behavior. See subject-expectancy effect and observer-expectancy effect.
In other words:
Meh. This is just classic confirmation bias. It's telling because Democrats want it to be telling. But these exact comments are made by Democrats every single time there's a regime change. Sometimes they're telling, most of the time they're not. Time will tell.
Either way it will not be chinteresting.
Wait. So does this mean it's actually Democrats who are racist?
