Jeremiah Martin, 2018 4* BUCK, San Bernardino (Cajon), CA (OFFERED 9/27)
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All I can say is UW has zero fucking pass rush. Zero. This is a large-scale problem and will continue to limit UW from being elite. Recruiting this year has not rectified this area. This is a problem.
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Where is Greyson Gunheim when you need him?
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Because we want to see tryhard whites from our tryhard white high schools play for our daWgsCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
Why does this website have the highest expectations about everything in the program, but in recruiting those expectations are just not there?JECAR said:
If the queen had a dick, she would be the king. Fuck off with this hypothetical bullshit. Talk about fucking doog...Dennis_DeYoung said:Yeah, let’s just act like everything is perfect because we are picked to win a conference that has 1 good team with an awful coach...
If USC had Pete and we had Helton it would be 2005 all over again.
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Uhhh...it’s not that complicated. Everyone is excited that we’re no longer just aiming for bowl games (like when locker and sark beat nebraska in the Holiday Bowl).RoadDawg55 said:
One week we have a great class, the next it sucks. One week Bob Gregory needs to be fired, the next we reel in Kaho.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
Not this again. Why can’t people be excited about the coming season and still expect more? I will never understand.RoadDawg55 said:
You are a faggot. We’re the favorites to win the PAC 12 next year.BallzDeep said:
Amazing that through the coaching change his interest in A&M hasn't wavered at all. Either he's been contacted by a bag man or he got some bomb ass pussy on his A&M visit and is highly interested no matter who the coach is. We're fucked. Coach K fucking sucks. Shit the bed recruiting pass rushers again. Couldn't even beat out LA Tech for Maureese Wren.BlastDoor said:Wiltfong CB to the Fighting Jimbos
We can always improve. You guys are entertaining and I follow everything with UW football, but we aren’t fucked. We are good and will continue to be good. Recruiting has gradually gotten better.
There was a genuinely serious duscussion about whether we would be better off without Lake because he hadn’t closed on a few guys. Then he gets Gordon and he’s a God again.
I guess I can’t deal with the ups and downs of recuriting sometimes because it’s fucking stupid.
I get that it’s for fun, but Fuck, it's just not funny anymore. It's like revenge of the nerds around here. Goes to show 80% of you guys around here are fucking geeks. Post (oh I'm supposed to say 'poast' hee hee) something refreshing. Teen boi to the Seattle storm! Hardy har har. Fucking dweeb round here now. That's what happens when you invite too many dawgmen over. Close the fucking gates Derek.
But now the Bar has been raised. YAY PETE!
People have seen us get out-talented by bama and penn state. We want dominant DLs and edge pass rushers. We want LBs that can pursue sideline-to-sideline, and DBs that can blanket WRs and enforce the run.
“We’re favored to win the pac-12?” Sorry, but most of the pac-12 sucks. In fact, nearly all of the pac-12 sucks, and last year we fucking lost to asu and stanford. I guess we should just be happy with winning this conference.
Actually, no. We shouldn’t be just happy with that.
We have a really good recruiting class. But if there are positions that we clearly whiffed on, it should be discussed. Otherwise we should all go back to doogman where everything is great and nobody is at fault for anything. -
All the new notifications and I got excited and thought maybe Martin committed when I was opening this thread. Should have known better.
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That's a great song ... but I don't picture K playing that song in his reflective moments.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Don't bother. Don't you get it...!?!?! It's no one's fault!!!!!BallzDeep said:@bananasnblondes @dnc Coach K and Coach Lubick were fucking double teaming him. Coach K flew all the way to Texas to do an in-home visit with him. When he decommitted from Arkansas they were all over him. They were telling him what he wanted to hear which they rarely do. They wanted him and lost. Period.
The Doog song plays on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pekhxxngQ3s
Snapshot of K's reflective moment ...
With the following on an endless loop ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A -
Because if you measure success purely by do you win the National Championship you are bound to be perpetually miserable ...CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
Not this again. Why can’t people be excited about the coming season and still expect more? I will never understand.RoadDawg55 said:
You are a faggot. We’re the favorites to win the PAC 12 next year.BallzDeep said:
Amazing that through the coaching change his interest in A&M hasn't wavered at all. Either he's been contacted by a bag man or he got some bomb ass pussy on his A&M visit and is highly interested no matter who the coach is. We're fucked. Coach K fucking sucks. Shit the bed recruiting pass rushers again. Couldn't even beat out LA Tech for Maureese Wren.BlastDoor said:Wiltfong CB to the Fighting Jimbos
The keys to success are, and always will be:
1) Win the North
2) Win the PAC12
3) Make at minimum New Year's 6 Game (bonus points for making CFP)
4) Win 1st Bowl Game
5) If in CFP and win Semi ... win National Title
In 2016 we accomplished 1, 2, and 3 with a star
In 2017 we accomplished only #3 with no star
Last year felt like a failure because of those standards
2016 was a really good year.
If we're lucky we'll accomplish all 5.
Accomplishing 1-4 is an excellent year.
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What honestly are the expectations?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
Why does this website have the highest expectations about everything in the program, but in recruiting those expectations are just not there?JECAR said:
If the queen had a dick, she would be the king. Fuck off with this hypothetical bullshit. Talk about fucking doog...Dennis_DeYoung said:Yeah, let’s just act like everything is perfect because we are picked to win a conference that has 1 good team with an awful coach...
If USC had Pete and we had Helton it would be 2005 all over again.
I am honestly asking for an answer.
We're likely going to end somewhere around Top 15 in the nation and 2nd in the conference in terms of quality. This is a class that you can absolutely win big with and will have a handful of instant difference makers.
If the thought is that we're going to be a Top 3 or 5 recruiting program in the country, that's just not realistic. I'd love for it to happen. You strive to accomplish it as a stretch goal. But you don't look at a Top 10 or 15 class and act like it sucks because it's not Top 5.
The recipe at Washington is really simple ...
Recruit at a comparable level to SC (we'll very rarely ever out-recruit them)
Beat everybody else in the conference
Rely on talent evaluation and player development to hold our own against the elite programs
Have a QB that doesn't have a noodle arm and can take advantage of teams that have elite athletes on defense but are not fundamentally sound -
Hell must be freezing over when I'm finding myself agreeing with RoadieRoadDawg55 said:
One week we have a great class, the next it sucks. One week Bob Gregory needs to be fired, the next we reel in Kaho.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
Not this again. Why can’t people be excited about the coming season and still expect more? I will never understand.RoadDawg55 said:
You are a faggot. We’re the favorites to win the PAC 12 next year.BallzDeep said:
Amazing that through the coaching change his interest in A&M hasn't wavered at all. Either he's been contacted by a bag man or he got some bomb ass pussy on his A&M visit and is highly interested no matter who the coach is. We're fucked. Coach K fucking sucks. Shit the bed recruiting pass rushers again. Couldn't even beat out LA Tech for Maureese Wren.BlastDoor said:Wiltfong CB to the Fighting Jimbos
There was a genuinely serious duscussion about whether we would be better off without Lake because he hadn’t closed on a few guys. Then he gets Gordon and he’s a God again.
I guess I can’t deal with the ups and downs of recuriting sometimes because it’s fucking stupid.
I get that it’s for fun, but Fuck, it's just not funny anymore. It's like revenge of the nerds around here. Goes to show 80% of you guys around here are fucking geeks. Post (oh I'm supposed to say 'poast' hee hee) something refreshing. Teen boi to the Seattle storm! Hardy har har. Fucking dweeb round here now. That's what happens when you invite too many dawgmen over. Close the fucking gates Derek.
A kid like Kaho we connected with ... he's elite and special. Our job and challenge will be finding more kids like him. Dennis is right that it's harder to find elite slow style kids than fast style kids ... but it's not impossible.
The Lake discussion to me had everything to do with succession planning and was never about his coaching. If you're thinking strategically, succession planning is a huge issue. If Jimmy Lake isn't being successful in recruiting, then you know something stinks as his track record shows he's a high producer. We found a massively outside of the box solution to the problem and we're going to (hopefully) be better for it over the next few years.
I honestly don't give 2 shits about whether or not Kwiatkowski can recruit or not. He's a tremendous DC and for coordinators I care only so much about recruiting. At some point, results matter.
This program is obviously at or near the top of the PAC 12 and there is no reason to believe that it won't continue to stay there. The arguments at this point in the program are about how we can incrementally get better. It's all about optimization.
Let's be honest, K's not getting fired or moved on from regardless of what he does recruiting unless he does an absolute no show for years and shows up fat, drunk, and stupid unprepared to be a DC. So while we can talk about how it'd sure be nice if he recruited better ... there's nothing to see here because he'll obviously be here on staff mentoring Lake as DC and pick the reigns back up full time once Lake takes a HC somewhere.
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It's a shit year for RBs on the West Coast ... we got a shit RB ... whatever.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
It is a great class that we signed early, it is clearly missing in some spots though. Do you not agree?RoadDawg55 said:
One week we have a great class, the next it sucks. One week Bob Gregory needs to be fired, the next we reel in Kaho.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
Not this again. Why can’t people be excited about the coming season and still expect more? I will never understand.RoadDawg55 said:
You are a faggot. We’re the favorites to win the PAC 12 next year.BallzDeep said:
Amazing that through the coaching change his interest in A&M hasn't wavered at all. Either he's been contacted by a bag man or he got some bomb ass pussy on his A&M visit and is highly interested no matter who the coach is. We're fucked. Coach K fucking sucks. Shit the bed recruiting pass rushers again. Couldn't even beat out LA Tech for Maureese Wren.BlastDoor said:Wiltfong CB to the Fighting Jimbos
We can always improve. You guys are entertaining and I follow everything with UW football, but we aren’t fucked. We are good and will continue to be good. Recruiting has gradually gotten better.
There was a genuinely serious duscussion about whether we would be better off without Lake because he hadn’t closed on a few guys. Then he gets Gordon and he’s a God again.
I guess I can’t deal with the ups and downs of recuriting sometimes because it’s fucking stupid.
I get that it’s for fun, but Fuck, it's just not funny anymore. It's like revenge of the nerds around here. Goes to show 80% of you guys around here are fucking geeks. Post (oh I'm supposed to say 'poast' hee hee) something refreshing. Teen boi to the Seattle storm! Hardy har har. Fucking dweeb round here now. That's what happens when you invite too many dawgmen over. Close the fucking gates Derek.
I just want the best of everything, and it’s so weird that so many on this board just don’t feel the same about recruiting and expecting our coaches to be good at it.
I'm still not convinced that part of the equation as to why we aren't great recruiting OLBs, and particularly massive pass rushers, has something to do with the way we build and play our defense.
We play a lot more containment in our defense and ask our OLBs to drop into coverage and play in space way more than a lot of other teams. I remember in 2014 and we were asking Kikaha to drop into space a ton people were going ape shit about it. It's something that obviously will be asked of a player at that position in the NFL and we're preparing players for the leap.
However, to a kid coming out of HS that was a pass rusher there, all they think about is that if they get their 10 sacks a year in college they'll get their 1st round money and then when they get their 10 sacks in the NFL they'll get that massive 2nd check. Problem is few are able to do that. Good luck telling a HS kid that thinks he's elite that that's the case ... particularly if they are of the fast style variety.




