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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,057 Founders Club
    That's sobering. I don't blame him for being pissed. But your subject line is misleading. It should say "For those wondering why Michael Bennett is kneeling"
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    That's sobering. I don't blame him for being pissed. But your subject line is misleading. It should say "For those wondering why Michael Bennett is kneeling"

    I think Boobs' poont is this isn't an isolated incident.

    I've talked to too many upstanding citizens with high melanin content who have had similar experiences to disagree.
    Exactly.

    You said it better than I would have.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
    Penitent
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    @DerekJohnson thinks this is an isolated incident and that all the other negroes need to stop complaining and stand up for the anthem
  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,792
    It happened in Vegas... there's for sure going to be more footage of this that comes out from security sources or others. It happened over a week ago, which means Bennett probably now knows he has the evidence to back up what he's saying.

    Pretty damning overall and I wouldn't be shocked if more Seahawks players kneel with him.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    edited September 2017
    NEsnake12 said:

    It happened in Vegas... there's for sure going to be more footage of this that comes out from security sources or others. It happened over a week ago, which means Bennett probably now knows he has the evidence to back up what he's saying.

    Pretty damning overall and I wouldn't be shocked if more Seahawks players kneel with him.

    Guarantee there will be a bunch of them kneeling, if not all of them after this.

    I don't think that's damning evidence though. All it does is confirm Bennett was handcuffed, it doesn't confirm innocence nor brutality.

    But I'm chinclined to believe Bennett's story.
  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,792
    dnc said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    It happened in Vegas... there's for sure going to be more footage of this that comes out from security sources or others. It happened over a week ago, which means Bennett probably now knows he has the evidence to back up what he's saying.

    Pretty damning overall and I wouldn't be shocked if more Seahawks players kneel with him.

    Guarantee there will be a bunch of them kneeling, if not all of them after this.

    I don't think that's damning evidence though. All it does is confirm Bennett was handcuffed, it doesn't confirm innocence nor brutality.

    But I'm chinclined to believe Bennett's story.
    I was saying that there's probably more footage besides the TMZ stuff. Security cameras and whatnot
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    NEsnake12 said:

    dnc said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    It happened in Vegas... there's for sure going to be more footage of this that comes out from security sources or others. It happened over a week ago, which means Bennett probably now knows he has the evidence to back up what he's saying.

    Pretty damning overall and I wouldn't be shocked if more Seahawks players kneel with him.

    Guarantee there will be a bunch of them kneeling, if not all of them after this.

    I don't think that's damning evidence though. All it does is confirm Bennett was handcuffed, it doesn't confirm innocence nor brutality.

    But I'm chinclined to believe Bennett's story.
    I was saying that there's probably more footage besides the TMZ stuff. Security cameras and whatnot
    I was just responding to the "pretty damning overall" statement. My expectation is that you are correct, just saying it's not to that poont yet.
  • Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,986
    I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.
  • CaptainPJCaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
    edited September 2017
    dnc said:

    I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.

    Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

    It's a racial issue.
    Gneau any white friends who have been falsely accused, detained, or just flat out fucked up by cops and left in the gutter? I know plenty.

    Ever been to Boston?

    More of a cop issue.

    But continue on with the crusade.
  • CaptainPJCaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
    dnc said:

    I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.

    Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

    It's a racial issue.
    You have black AND meth head friends?!!!

    DDN: "The most Chinteresting Man on Earth!!"
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,812 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.

    Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

    It's a racial issue.
    I've been cuffed and taken downtown for the most silly of infractions and I'm not a meth using white person??
  • Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,986
    edited September 2017
    dnc said:

    I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.

    Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

    It's a racial issue.
    I'm not saying black people don't experience it more often. That's probably true. And while a whitey like myself has never experienced the extreme end of it, I have experienced blatant and unprofessional misuses of their power, and so have lots of white people. As such, there are white people who would love to join in on the fight for better behaving cops...but why should they if society is going to treat black people as the only victims?

    Police abusing their power is the main problem. Who they're directing that abuse toward is also a problem, but it's secondary IMO, because if they simply shifted to abusing their power against everyone equally, we still have the same problem of them abusing their power.
  • CaptainPJCaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986

    CaptainPJ said:

    dnc said:

    I just wish it weren't a racial issue. It's a cop issue, really. They overstep their boundaries to varying degrees too often, and they do it people of all races. Making it a racial issue just alienates white people who would otherwise support this cause.

    Then how come all of my black friends have had these experiences but only my meth head white friends have?

    It's a racial issue.
    No any white friends who have been falsely accused, detained, or just flat out fucked up by cops and left in the gutter? I know plenty.

    Ever been to a Boston?

    More of a cop issue.

    But continue on with the crusade.
    It's both.

    Cops abuse their power AND disproportionately abuse it against black people.

    HTH
    On cue, and no, it doesn't.

    Let's play the preponderance of violent crime by percentage of population game again, shall we?

    Fuck off, Boobs - you lose this every time.

    Big of you to concede one poont, and I won't bring up a third, as tired fallacies get stale after awhile.
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