Democratic Deficits (Tequilla fucking long)
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You're asking these corrupt whores to legislate themselves out of bidnessBearsWiin said:
Competitive redistricting will go along way towards lowering polarization (first in elected representatives then in the populace at large, it's one thing that really does trickle down), and campaign finance reform will go a long way toward reducing "bought" behavior among representation - and will free representatives from the time-consuming drudgery of begging for money, which is what many say they spend up to half of their work time doing.AZDuck said:Thanks. I'm open to ideas. I just think that what we're doing isn't working, and polarization is going to kill the Republic sooner rather than later.
Rules determine outcomes. Make better rules, get better outcomes. No need to convene a Constitutional Congress; simple legislation will do the trick. -
An Act of Congress could require proportional representation in the House tomorrow.BearsWiin said:
Competitive redistricting will go along way towards lowering polarization (first in elected representatives then in the populace at large, it's one thing that really does trickle down), and campaign finance reform will go a long way toward reducing "bought" behavior among representation - and will free representatives from the time-consuming drudgery of begging for money, which is what many say they spend up to half of their work time doing.AZDuck said:Thanks. I'm open to ideas. I just think that what we're doing isn't working, and polarization is going to kill the Republic sooner rather than later.
Rules determine outcomes. Make better rules, get better outcomes. No need to convene a Constitutional Congress; simple legislation will do the trick.
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They're people. They respond to the incentives and constraints of the system. Change the incentives and constraints, and the same people will act differently.RaceBannon said:
You're asking these corrupt whores to legislate themselves out of bidnessBearsWiin said:
Competitive redistricting will go along way towards lowering polarization (first in elected representatives then in the populace at large, it's one thing that really does trickle down), and campaign finance reform will go a long way toward reducing "bought" behavior among representation - and will free representatives from the time-consuming drudgery of begging for money, which is what many say they spend up to half of their work time doing.AZDuck said:Thanks. I'm open to ideas. I just think that what we're doing isn't working, and polarization is going to kill the Republic sooner rather than later.
Rules determine outcomes. Make better rules, get better outcomes. No need to convene a Constitutional Congress; simple legislation will do the trick.
One of the only good things that has come out of California's initiative process is the 2010 competitive redistricting proposition. Not sure how to get something enacted on a nationwide level. But as for campaign finance reform, that's something that, if crafted well, ought to get bipartisan support because it will level the playing field (appeal to fairness) and free legislators from having to beg for money, which they tend to hate doing. -
I for one am proud to see the recovery effort going on in Detroit.AZDuck said:I guess you're right. Your insightful poast made me check the facts.
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Except they never LEAVE!CuntWaffle said:Europe sucks. It will always be the place people will pretend to move to when they are SICK and DISGUSTED with this country!
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Except the Supremes already buried finance reform with the Citizens United ruling.BearsWiin said:
They're people. They respond to the incentives and constraints of the system. Change the incentives and constraints, and the same people will act differently.RaceBannon said:
You're asking these corrupt whores to legislate themselves out of bidnessBearsWiin said:
Competitive redistricting will go along way towards lowering polarization (first in elected representatives then in the populace at large, it's one thing that really does trickle down), and campaign finance reform will go a long way toward reducing "bought" behavior among representation - and will free representatives from the time-consuming drudgery of begging for money, which is what many say they spend up to half of their work time doing.AZDuck said:Thanks. I'm open to ideas. I just think that what we're doing isn't working, and polarization is going to kill the Republic sooner rather than later.
Rules determine outcomes. Make better rules, get better outcomes. No need to convene a Constitutional Congress; simple legislation will do the trick.
One of the only good things that has come out of California's initiative process is the 2010 competitive redistricting proposition. Not sure how to get something enacted on a nationwide level. But as for campaign finance reform, that's something that, if crafted well, ought to get bipartisan support because it will level the playing field (appeal to fairness) and free legislators from having to beg for money, which they tend to hate doing. -
I've spent a ton of time in Europe and it's very nice. It's obviously much older than the US so things are just done in an infinitely smarter way. We will get there eventually as well. We won't see it, but it will happen. Most of European history is filled with stupidity and learning from mistakes, just like our own.
I tell everyone to flip America 90 degrees counterclockwise and you have Europe. The top and bottom are super nice. The middle and west are kind of boring. The east is super shitty.
If you go to Germany, France, Switzerland, Sweden, or Finland you see what well ran socialism looks like. The roads are immaculate, education is top notch, everyone is healthy, and you can just see instantly where the money goes. Of course Sledoog and Race will sprint over to this thread, jerk off onto each other, then tell everyone how Cuba sucks and Capitalism is the tits. Salemcoog will just say something stupid, because that's who he is.
Every nice country has a free market; Germany, UK, Japan, etc.
The US has the highest poverty rate of any industrialized nation.
Most people aren't rich and never will be. The rest of the first world has embraced this. Every American deep down still believes that they could be rich someday, even though they won't, so they behave like $40,000 millionaires. This will end eventually and we will be like every other well ran nation. -
or Brazil with nukes, if we don't the well-run thing figured out.Mosster47 said:I've spent a ton of time in Europe and it's very nice. It's obviously much older than the US so things are just done in an infinitely smarter way. We will get there eventually as well. We won't see it, but it will happen. Most of European history is filled with stupidity and learning from mistakes, just like our own.
I tell everyone to flip America 90 degrees counterclockwise and you have Europe. The top and bottom are super nice. The middle and west are kind of boring. The east is super shitty.
If you go to Germany, France, Switzerland, Sweden, or Finland you see what well ran socialism looks like. The roads are immaculate, education is top notch, everyone is healthy, and you can just see instantly where the money goes. Of course Sledoog and Race will sprint over to this thread, jerk off onto each other, then tell everyone how Cuba sucks and Capitalism is the tits. Salemcoog will just say something stupid, because that's who he is.
Every nice country has a free market; Germany, UK, Japan, etc.
The US has the highest poverty rate of any industrialized nation.
Most people aren't rich and never will be. The rest of the first world has embraced this. Every American deep down still believes that they could be rich someday, even though they won't, so they behave like $40,000 millionaires. This will end eventually and we will be like every other well ran nation. -
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California is a one party state. I assume both parties would be in favor of being that party nationwideBearsWiin said:
They're people. They respond to the incentives and constraints of the system. Change the incentives and constraints, and the same people will act differently.RaceBannon said:
You're asking these corrupt whores to legislate themselves out of bidnessBearsWiin said:
Competitive redistricting will go along way towards lowering polarization (first in elected representatives then in the populace at large, it's one thing that really does trickle down), and campaign finance reform will go a long way toward reducing "bought" behavior among representation - and will free representatives from the time-consuming drudgery of begging for money, which is what many say they spend up to half of their work time doing.AZDuck said:Thanks. I'm open to ideas. I just think that what we're doing isn't working, and polarization is going to kill the Republic sooner rather than later.
Rules determine outcomes. Make better rules, get better outcomes. No need to convene a Constitutional Congress; simple legislation will do the trick.
One of the only good things that has come out of California's initiative process is the 2010 competitive redistricting proposition. Not sure how to get something enacted on a nationwide level. But as for campaign finance reform, that's something that, if crafted well, ought to get bipartisan support because it will level the playing field (appeal to fairness) and free legislators from having to beg for money, which they tend to hate doing.
I have noticed over my long time on this earth that winning trumps notions of fairness. That's how we got here.
