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RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,403 Founders Club
For the second or third week in a row that main event team sits their stars for ABC Saturday Night Basketball. So the Clips beat the Cavs by 30.

But the Big Three are there for the Lakers last night at a lively Forum at the Staples Center in Los Angeles of Anaheim.

The Lakers actually decide to show up and the oft maligned DeLa Russell goes point for point with Irving and Lebron and the Cavs pull away at the end to win rather easily.

Imagine the Patriots sitting Tom Brady for a NBC Sunday Night game.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,800

    For the second or third week in a row that main event team sits their stars for ABC Saturday Night Basketball. So the Clips beat the Cavs by 30.

    But the Big Three are there for the Lakers last night at a lively Forum at the Staples Center in Los Angeles of Anaheim.

    The Lakers actually decide to show up and the oft maligned DeLa Russell goes point for point with Irving and Lebron and the Cavs pull away at the end to win rather easily.

    Imagine the Patriots sitting Tom Brady for a NBC Sunday Night game.

    82 = 16
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,403 Founders Club
    If the best they can do is sit for the main event game of the week they are fucking stupid

    And Brady did sit out a NBC Game. Shout out to Rog
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Yeah it's really bad business. The Cavs should have sat their guys vs the Lakers. The schedule is collectively bargained and 82 games isn't going away because neither side wants to take less money. Coaches need to stop throwing hissy fits and sit their guys before the big TV games.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937
    Sitting guys just doesn't sit well with me ... it's a fucking joke ... coaches should largely utilize their benches more if they are worried about mileage on their top players.

    It's one thing if guys are injured ... another if it is just rest
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,800
    Tequilla said:

    Sitting guys just doesn't sit well with me ... it's a fucking joke ... coaches should largely utilize their benches more if they are worried about mileage on their top players.

    It's one thing if guys are injured ... another if it is just rest

    Completely disagree. Pop started it and he's arguably the GOAT. It's smart as hell.

    I get that it's a bad look for the big TV games, and I don't blame fans for being pissed. But if it's my team doing it I'm all for it.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,800
    AlCzervik said:

    Resting players over the course of a long season is the norm in baseball (and soccer and other sports). Golfers don't play every tournament. I really don't understand the outrage.

    It's the NBA regular season. It's all dreck anyway.

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    Bingo
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    I don't mind it like I used to. 82 games is too many, but that won't change because of the money.

    Nobody cares about guys sitting in baseball which is a less taxing game physically. It was a TV game, but nobody actually cared about it with the tournament going on.

    The Cavs will win the #1 seed in the East anyways. It's great that playing 82 was a badge of honor, but it's stupid for a team's long term goals.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    I'm fine with teams resting their players at home. On the road, you owe it to the fans who only get to see you in person once per season.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,937
    edited March 2017
    It's not about the days off in other sports ... it's about how done in basketball ...

    The two sports cited as being similar are baseball and soccer ...

    In baseball, you are playing 2-4 games in a location before moving on. It's generally known that guys may rest on a getaway day ... they often play 2-3 series per year in a location so more apples to oranges. Also, the nature of the sport differentiates the magnitude of any one particular player ... particularly a non pitcher. Most that buy tickets to see a particular player usually do so to see an elite pitcher ... the rhythm of the game makes that relatively predictable. And more than anything else, teams are trying to win each game.

    In soccer, players tend to rest more in domestic league cup competitions early in the year and/or before significant matches with multiple games in a week. That said, most of those games with rest are staggered such that the entire starting 11 isn't benched at the same time. And the clubs that are more often subjected to that know that ahead of time and have the depth to be able to play those schedules.

    The problem with basketball is that they don't stagger at all and basically throw out a guaranteed loss ... I'm not a big fan of any team walking into a game with an expectation of losing
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,403 Founders Club
    You sit your stars on your national games and you aren't going to have to worry about fans for long. They'll be gone.
  • SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,011 Founders Club

    You sit your stars on your national games and you aren't going to have to worry about fans for long. They'll be gone.

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  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    I don't mind it like I used to. 82 games is too many, but that won't change because of the money.

    Nobody cares about guys sitting in baseball which is a less taxing game physically. It was a TV game, but nobody actually cared about it with the tournament going on.

    The Cavs will win the #1 seed in the East anyways. It's great that playing 82 was a badge of honor, but it's stupid for a team's long term goals.

    Fixed.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,800

    I'm fine with teams resting their players at home. On the road, you owe it to the fans who only get to see you in person once per season.

    Stu Gotz POTD.

    I'm on the complete opposite end. I don't think you owe opposing fans anything. You do owe your home fans something.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,800
    Tequilla said:

    It's not about the days off in other sports ... it's about how done in basketball ...

    The two sports cited as being similar are baseball and soccer ...

    In baseball, you are playing 2-4 games in a location before moving on. It's generally known that guys may rest on a getaway day ... they often play 2-3 series per year in a location so more apples to oranges. Also, the nature of the sport differentiates the magnitude of any one particular player ... particularly a non pitcher. Most that buy tickets to see a particular player usually do so to see an elite pitcher ... the rhythm of the game makes that relatively predictable. And more than anything else, teams are trying to win each game.

    In soccer, players tend to rest more in domestic league cup competitions early in the year and/or before significant matches with multiple games in a week. That said, most of those games with rest are staggered such that the entire starting 11 isn't benched at the same time. And the clubs that are more often subjected to that know that ahead of time and have the depth to be able to play those schedules.

    The problem with basketball is that they don't stagger at all and basically throw out a guaranteed loss ... I'm not a big fan of any team walking into a game with an expectation of losing

    Flags fly forever. I'm a big fan of teams giving themselves the best possible chance to hang a banner.

    War > battle
  • AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    I don't mind it like I used to. 82 games is too many, but that won't change because of the money.

    Nobody cares about guys sitting in baseball which is a less taxing game physically. It was a TV game, but nobody actually cared about it with the tournament going on.

    The Cavs will win the #1 seed in the East anyways. It's great that playing 82 was a badge of honor, but it's stupid for a team's long term goals.

    You've obviously never read Ball Four or ever heard of Dock Ellis.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    I'm fine with teams resting their players at home. On the road, you owe it to the fans who only get to see you in person once per season.

    Stu Gotz POTD.

    I'm on the complete opposite end. I don't think you owe opposing fans anything. You do owe your home fans something.
    It's a socialist league. When 80% of your teams have no hope of winning a title before the season starts, you have to throw them a bone.

    I thank you for the Stugotz comparison though.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dnc said:

    I'm fine with teams resting their players at home. On the road, you owe it to the fans who only get to see you in person once per season.

    Stu Gotz POTD.

    I'm on the complete opposite end. I don't think you owe opposing fans anything. You do owe your home fans something.
    It's a socialist league. When 80% of your teams have no hope of winning a title before the season starts, you have to throw them a bone.

    I thank you for the Stugotz comparison though.
    it's more like 90%.

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