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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleThrobber said:

    dhdawg said:

    a bigger scandal though than any russian hack was that one campaign was under criminal investigation since july.

    The public was not informed of it prior to the election. But they were of another.

    Actually -it's not.

    In this country there's an overriding presumption of "innocent until proven guilty" beyond a reasonable doubt. It keeps the government from becoming a police state or a political tool. It also keeps the government from publicizing every fucking person they are investigating so as not to look like dumbshits once all the facts of the case are presented.

    This is why there are lawyers and shit. And legal procedure and courts of appeal and a third branch of government to keep the other two in line.

    Truly - HTH. LIFPO.

    From the person that calls Hillary a criminal.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    doogie said:

    So, what is the point of this fake Russians Must Have Hacked the Election charade?

    To distract from Hillary's crimes and how they cheated to lose to the election.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,860 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    doogie said:

    So, what is the point of this fake Russians Must Have Hacked the Election charade?

    To distract from Hillary's crimes and how they cheated to lose to the election.
    Kind of like the LA detectives framing a guilty OJ
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    PurpleJ said:

    doogie said:

    So, what is the point of this fake Russians Must Have Hacked the Election charade?

    To distract from Hillary's crimes and how they cheated to lose to the election.
    Your @doogie imitation is SAD!
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    doogie said:

    So, what is the point of this fake Russians Must Have Hacked the Election charade?

    To distract from Hillary's crimes and how they cheated to lose to the election.
    Read Throbbers post.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    It seems my response generated a lot of interest in a short period of time.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    AlCzervik said:

    There are numerous links between Trump's campaign and Russia. Speculation about the extent and nature of those links is currently pointless but we do need to find out about them. I wouldn't rule out anything when it comes to Trump.

    So you agree that Trump being elected President had nothing to do with Russia then.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    dhdawg said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    dhdawg said:

    a bigger scandal though than any russian hack was that one campaign was under criminal investigation since july.

    The public was not informed of it prior to the election. But they were of another.

    Actually -it's not.

    In this country there's an overriding presumption of "innocent until proven guilty" beyond a reasonable doubt. It keeps the government from becoming a police state or a political tool. It also keeps the government from publicizing every fucking person they are investigating so as not to look like dumbshits once all the facts of the case are presented.

    This is why there are lawyers and shit. And legal procedure and courts of appeal and a third branch of government to keep the other two in line.

    Truly - HTH. LIFPO.

    You missed the point of my post.
    Keeping that secret and going public with a worthless investigation into some emails a week before that isn't political?
    If Clinton would have won, they wouldn't be so worthless.
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  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
    salemcoog said:

    AlCzervik said:

    There are numerous links between Trump's campaign and Russia. Speculation about the extent and nature of those links is currently pointless but we do need to find out about them. I wouldn't rule out anything when it comes to Trump.

    So you agree that Trump being elected President had nothing to do with Russia then.
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    Again ... I don't know yet. I'd like to. When you have a team of naive incompetents on one side and experienced intelligence operatives on the other ... this concerns me.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,730 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2017
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    dhdawg said:

    a bigger scandal though than any russian hack was that one campaign was under criminal investigation since july.

    The public was not informed of it prior to the election. But they were of another.

    Actually -it's not.

    In this country there's an overriding presumption of "innocent until proven guilty" beyond a reasonable doubt. It keeps the government from becoming a police state or a political tool. It also keeps the government from publicizing every fucking person they are investigating so as not to look like dumbshits once all the facts of the case are presented.

    This is why there are lawyers and shit. And legal procedure and courts of appeal and a third branch of government to keep the other two in line.

    Truly - HTH. LIFPO.

    From the person that calls Hillary a criminal.
    Nice deflection technique. That has nothing to do with the fact that there is due process in both the accusation phase and the judgment phase of this country's legal system. I can call whomever I want a criminal - I'm not entrusted with a legal code of ethics or bound by the public trust to conduct myself in such a manner. Or do I need to go into a full-on diatribe about how she is a public figure and subject to different standards as to what Joe Blow can and can't say about her?

    So by your response, I take it to under that you believe that prosecutors and police organizations should be able to publicize their allegations with impunity? Nice. Very nice.

    Or do you want to talk about construction being depreciable again?



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