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One encouraging trend in recruiting
dnc
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For me, the encouraging thing about this class is the caliber of the "plan B" guys' offer sheets. DDY or Coker can correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems there was both less reaching in this class and the reaches were not nearly as extreme (Warning: I'm going to use Scouts offer lists for lack of better info, I understand this is an imperfect measurement of actual offers but it's the best I'm aware of - if you know of a discrepancy on a particular recruits scout offer list feel free to chime in).
Not sure if Lolohea was a B guy or just a guy who decided late, but he lists offers from half the conference. Kirkland had 6 other Pac12 offers. Gaye lists offers from 5 other Pac schools plus Ole Miss. Tryon had 3 other Pac offers, Norgaard had 2, and White TE and Haener bring up the rear with one (if you believe UCLA wanted Haener at the end).
Setting aside punter because who cares, that's only four guys who had less than 6 Pac offers, and Tryon is very exciting to me at least out of that group. That only leaves two kinda meh guys (Norgaard and Otten) and one WTF guy (Haener).
Compare that to last year when we were KJ Young's only Pac offer, Chincredibles only Pac offer, DGB's only Pac offer, Nick Harris's only Pac offer (though I really like those last two), and Fuller's only Pac offer (though he had 3 Big 10 offers and an ACC offer so he's kind of a different category) . Kizer had 2 other Pac offers and Pleasant had 3 other Pac offers (for some reason I thought he was more in demand than that).
So to compare, this year we got three guys with less than four Pac offers (again, excluding punters), last we got five of those (excluding Fuller who had four other equivalent offers). Average other Pac offers for those bottom 3 guys this year was 1.3. Average other Pac offers for the bottom five last year was 0.4.
TL; DR - the bottom 20-25% of the class is much more in demand this year than last year despite the fact they're all listed as three stars.
Of course, most of that progress is really just upgrading from Pease to Bush. Still, hopefully Bush is around for awhile.
Not sure if Lolohea was a B guy or just a guy who decided late, but he lists offers from half the conference. Kirkland had 6 other Pac12 offers. Gaye lists offers from 5 other Pac schools plus Ole Miss. Tryon had 3 other Pac offers, Norgaard had 2, and White TE and Haener bring up the rear with one (if you believe UCLA wanted Haener at the end).
Setting aside punter because who cares, that's only four guys who had less than 6 Pac offers, and Tryon is very exciting to me at least out of that group. That only leaves two kinda meh guys (Norgaard and Otten) and one WTF guy (Haener).
Compare that to last year when we were KJ Young's only Pac offer, Chincredibles only Pac offer, DGB's only Pac offer, Nick Harris's only Pac offer (though I really like those last two), and Fuller's only Pac offer (though he had 3 Big 10 offers and an ACC offer so he's kind of a different category) . Kizer had 2 other Pac offers and Pleasant had 3 other Pac offers (for some reason I thought he was more in demand than that).
So to compare, this year we got three guys with less than four Pac offers (again, excluding punters), last we got five of those (excluding Fuller who had four other equivalent offers). Average other Pac offers for those bottom 3 guys this year was 1.3. Average other Pac offers for the bottom five last year was 0.4.
TL; DR - the bottom 20-25% of the class is much more in demand this year than last year despite the fact they're all listed as three stars.
Of course, most of that progress is really just upgrading from Pease to Bush. Still, hopefully Bush is around for awhile.
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much better than space filler/longshots ...
6'5" - 6'6" guys who are 240-260, raw - but with "rare" qualities can be coached up.
You can't make Nick Harris 6'5" but they recognized the potential/qualities. If he was 6'5" he would be an NFL first round pick.
Another quality winning year and the following year too will see the staggered recruiting effect and we'll be hitting the stride for up front high-end 4-5* talent.
we'll have the luxury of taking a few "gambles" after a full talented class is in the fold.
good times
Myles Gaskin
Lavon Coleman
Sean McGrew - state player of the year in California in the class of 2017
Jamon Dotson - upper class player with experience
Kamari Pleasant
For Ahmed to play, he's got to EARN his way into the rotation. That's a HUGE positive.
If you look around at the roster, that's where we're going to be at RB, WR, DL, LB, and DB. We just need to get the QB, TE (more Hunter Bryant types), and OL positions to that level. To have those levels of depth get you to the point where when you have injuries it's literally just next man up. We're getting close.
I think many here don't factor in that guys like Otten are normally obsessed with football. Football IQ is too often thrown around for guys that lack physical skills. Otten has the physical skills.
Otten is Drew Sample with twice (maybe more) the ability as a pass catcher.