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Jontay Porter considering to reclassify himself to class of 2017.
Petersen3098
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This team might have enough talent to carry Romar.
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Porter is going to be the #1 overall pick, he might be good enough to carry the team to the tourney alone. Add in his little bro, and that's 2 bigs with actual bball IQ and skills.
Throw in Nowell and Davis, and this is easily the best class Romar has ever pulled out of his ass. I know how most of us feel about keeping a coach because of recruiting, but if you think Romar is getting canned before this class comes to campus, you're wrong.
UW has Markel fultz who is the arguable #1 pick, and a bunch of 4* guys on the roster.
Dickerson
Green
Thybulle
Crisp
timmons
So we're too assume that b/c nowell, davis, harris and porter are all rated 4* or higher that it will translate to winning? Nowell, davis, crisp will likely fight for similar minutes. Thybulle, green, johnson and porter(s) for other minutes. Leaving Dickerson, atewe and timmons in the post, or very skinny Porter(s). Not to mention we all know at least 1-3 of the current roster will leave per the usual exodus(my guess is johnson and green)
Recruiting stars are bullshit. Rarely do frosh ever lead teams to really good records. It's typically a combination of solid upper classmen and a couple of elite frosh. UW doesn't play anyone major minutes this season who isn't a 4*(sans Dime when he was still suiting up).
WDWH in 2017 A.
Look at future class, beat off on recruiting rankings, season sucks, look to next season, cry about how X player won't show up if the anointed isn't the coach, rinse/lather/repeat.
There is one thing constant over the last 6 years other than lack of post season(FO CBI/NIT participation fans), and it isn't talented players.
But, he is going to be 10x better than timmons by just breathing.
Porter deserves his ranking ... skill wise it's what you want from a player his size ... elite talent. That being said, you can absolutely tell he's a HS kid as his forces are obvious, he needs to learn how to turn down shots and work for better ones, and how to use the attention given to him to make others better.
Jontay is a skilled big man that could be a really nice player with 3 years in college under the right coach developing his game. He has s nice feel for the game but definitely a lot more raw.
As for Roy and Hale, I will give him credit for taking the job and doing a reasonable job. Too often it looked like Green Lake rat ball to me with isolation on offense and reaching on defense paramount. I did see some switches on defense that gave me a reason to believe that coaching exists.
But the whole under belly of Seattle AAU and youth hoops needs to be flipped upside down as it is ALL individual focused.
When Cal or coach K get 1 or 2 guys that stay, they contend for titles. Cal did the same thing with the Anthony Davis class. They had Terrence Jones and a couple other guys who weren't freshman to help. The Duke team with Okafor, Winston, and Jones had a Quinn Cook, etc.
btw, Crisp is a 3 star, not a 4 star.
I will never get into pissing matches over "videos" of recruits. Especially in basketball b/c the haves vs the have nots is vast. Nobody plays defense in high school. NOBODY. It's why guys struggle at the next level. They play better talent, more mature bodies, and teams actually scout and play defense(grain of salt poured for UW's defense the last half decade).
With most stud recruits I rarely worry if they can score at the next level. That's actually easier than anything. I worry if they can transition to play team defense, defend top level pac12 players 1-1 and rebound. As you may have noticed this year, UW doesn't play a lick of defense as a team and can't defend a simple pick and roll. If you think Garfield is preparing these guys to defend you're dooging.
Yes, I agree that they don't play defense in High school. What I'm trying to say is that this team has a shot in getting into the tourney, not making a run. We were on the bubble till the end of the season last year until we lost to OSU. We had Chriss and Murray. Last year's team had no defense too. Next year's class is probably better than last year's class. I just think that we have a great shot at making the tourney.
Fultz is Fultz. Tier 1
Dickerson was a tier 2. Florida and Georgetown wanted him.
Thybulle was tier 2/3. Gonzaga and a few others.
Dime was a 2/3. Kansas and Oklahoma offered him but I'm sure they saw him as depth/ insurance because benchwarmers leave every year. A couple blocks, a dunk, a key rebound, 5 fouls.
Green was a 3. ASU and Minnesota suck. He's not good.
Crisp is a 5'10" SG. I'll give him a 3. He really sucks though. Guys like this that play at lower levels sometimes get their 15 minutes if their team makes it to the tourney because he can get hot from outside. He's useless when he's not.
Timmins was supposedly highly touted but he's from Australia.
Romar really isn't a great recruiter and he sucks at developing anyone that doesn't come in as a stud. There really isn't that much talent on the team. It's a total dumpster fire.