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"Explosive Play" Pete comment

godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,409
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In the post game press conf, Pete said he thought it would be a low scoring game, and we didn't hit enough explosive plays to get it done.

When I hear stuff like that, (and is something both him and JS have talked about since they've been here) I want to drink a gallon of mercury as they seem imo to be hung up on that.

If that's how you feel then

#1) You better recruit a qb who can throw it over 40 yards and hit the wr in stride (not Jake's strong suit)
#2) Have a rb with elite, home run speed (not who Gaskin is)
#3) Recruit a wr every year who can run sub 4.3 like Ross
#4) Not recruit a bunch of 6-3 Stringfellow size guys who can go over the middle and make catches like this wr class is

The better team won tonight, but this offense has been so good at grinding it down the field on teams via run and the short/intermediate passing game, yet it feels like JS doesn't believe we can win unless there's 2-4 of those type plays a game and he is going to keep calling them until he gets there.

There is a reason the completion percentage on go routes (or bombs as they were called back in the day) is around 20%.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,000
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    Look to how the Saints beat the Seahawks as a perfect example.
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    section8section8 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,581
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    The explosive plays will are great but tend to happen organically if you chip away a defense (like SC did) but JSfs persists in trying to make them happen.

    Feels like watching Sark call plays but without the bubble screens. Not using the options you have open, ignoring the short passes and trying to go long into double coverage.

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    Mad_SonMad_Son Member Posts: 10,091
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    section8 said:

    The explosive plays will are great but tend to happen organically if you chip away a defense (like SC did) but JSfs persists in trying to make them happen.

    Feels like watching Sark call plays but without the bubble screens. Not using the options you have open, ignoring the short passes and trying to go long into double coverage.

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    @Dennis_DeYoung said it perfectly in the game thread last night. Explosive plays are correlative, not causal.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,341
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    John Ross wishes Eason was throwing to him
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    Classy
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    LaZorisLaZoris Member Posts: 1,628
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    godawgst said:


    In the post game press conf, Pete said he thought it would be a low scoring game, and we didn't hit enough explosive plays to get it done.

    When I hear stuff like that, (and is something both him and JS have talked about since they've been here) I want to drink a gallon of mercury as they seem imo to be hung up on that.

    If that's how you feel then

    #1) You better recruit a qb who can throw it over 40 yards and hit the wr in stride (not Jake's strong suit)
    #2) Have a rb with elite, home run speed (not who Gaskin is)
    #3) Recruit a wr every year who can run sub 4.3 like Ross
    #4) Not recruit a bunch of 6-3 Stringfellow size guys who can go over the middle and make catches like this wr class is

    The better team won tonight, but this offense has been so good at grinding it down the field on teams via run and the short/intermediate passing game, yet it feels like JS doesn't believe we can win unless there's 2-4 of those type plays a game and he is going to keep calling them until he gets there.

    There is a reason the completion percentage on go routes (or bombs as they were called back in the day) is around 20%.

    Or you could just hire a real OC.
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    godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,409
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    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    He's not wrong in the sense that we simply missed a large amount of explosive plays last night. WRs were getting open deep and Jake either missed them or they didn't sell out to catch the ball. But there was no reason for us to rely on those throws all game to begin with. Our tendency to get cute finally caught up with us and bit us in the ass. Sometimes we need to have a little more David Shaw in our gameplan and just fuck the defense in the ass when they know it's coming.

    Up vote on tendency to get cute quote. Missing go routes vs. Cal/Rutgers/etc no big deal. Last night they killed us. I believe this team's offensive calling card could be their ability to run it, but gun to head, we are a pass first team who is in love with the notion that explosive plays HAVE to be part of the game plan.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    He's not wrong in the sense that we simply missed a large amount of explosive plays last night. WRs were getting open deep and Jake either missed them or they didn't sell out to catch the ball. But there was no reason for us to rely on those throws all game to begin with. Our tendency to get cute finally caught up with us and bit us in the ass. Sometimes we need to have a little more David Shaw in our gameplan and just fuck the defense in the ass when they know it's coming.

    Like what is called "'smash-mouth" football, versus Smiffy's superfantastic trickery specials, that his players cannot execute?
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    backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,795
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    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    backthepack said:

    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.

    No one fucking cares fuck off
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    backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,795
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    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.

    No one fucking cares fuck off
    Fuck you and your fucking cbb shitick
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.

    No one fucking cares fuck off
    Fuck you and your fucking cbb shitick
    Better than whatever it is you do.
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    backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,795
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    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.

    No one fucking cares fuck off
    Fuck you and your fucking cbb shitick
    Better than whatever it is you do.
    I enjoy CBB but christ
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.

    No one fucking cares fuck off
    Fuck you and your fucking cbb shitick
    Better than whatever it is you do.
    I enjoy CBB but christ
    I'd enjoy it if you decided to LEAVE!
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    backthepack said:

    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.

    Grandpa Sankey has a better view of our personnel than Smith does, apparently.
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    backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,795
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    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.

    No one fucking cares fuck off
    Fuck you and your fucking cbb shitick
    Better than whatever it is you do.
    I enjoy CBB but christ
    I'd enjoy it if you decided to LEAVE!
    Higher discussion
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    backthepack said:

    What he doesn't realize is he doesn't have a fucking dynamic Russell Wilson-esque QB. Looking at our personnel we should be a ball control march is down your throat type of offense. We have one of the best lines in the conf. they really had no chance to get in rythm as we never ran the ball. A deadly accaurate QB throwing with 20 yards and WRs who can open on any type of intermediate route. He needs to learn there is a time and place for an explosive and he built an offense around a QB who can't make plays with his legs and can't throw a good deep ball.

    No one fucking cares fuck off
    Fuck you and your fucking cbb shitick
    Better than whatever it is you do.
    I enjoy CBB but christ
    I'd enjoy it if you decided to LEAVE!
    Higher disscussion
    Wrong bored, new fish.
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