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D.J. Johnson, 2017 7* BUCK, Miami (Da U), FL - transferring?

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,697 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    BallzDeep said:

    Tequilla said:

    Unpopular opinion alert ...

    UW’s ability to win a National Title will require us to have a Top 10 National Defense that is generally sound and having an elite level QB that plays at an elite level

    For those of you think that 1991 is the only way to do it, that was less because we had elite players (outside of Emtman) but more because we had a defensive strategy that was largely new to college and teams weren’t largely ready to combat. In the 1992 Rose Bowl the D dominated Michigan. In 1993, Michigan put up 38 and Tyrone Wheatley ran all over us as teams started finding ways to exploit the defense.

    So unless we have plans on revolutionizing defensive football our best shot is to have an elite QB. And guess what you have a great chance of finding on the West Coast compared to the SEC ... it’s the ONLY competitive advantage we almost always will have on the field going forward.

    How'd that work out for USC and UCLA this season? It takes an entire team and you have to be elite on both lines of scrimmage to compete at that level. Having an elite QB doesn't mean shit if you don't have studs across the board in the trenches on both sides.
    Neither IMO played at an elite level ... at least on a consistent basis.

    Obviously you need good line play ... which traditionally we tend to hold our own there.

    But let’s be clear, we are never competing for the National Title with a team that can run it down someone’s throat. The only way we do so is having a QB with no fear that is willing and capable of making the throws and plays necessary.
    The evidence of a Tier II school needing an elite NFL caliber QB to get to the NT game is overwhelming in the BCS/CFP era. Georgia is an outlier because they are a Tier II school that has recruited at a Tier I level for a while.
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,256
    NEsnake12 said:

    BallzDeep said:

    BallzDeep said:

    Tequilla said:

    Unpopular opinion alert ...

    UW’s ability to win a National Title will require us to have a Top 10 National Defense that is generally sound and having an elite level QB that plays at an elite level

    For those of you think that 1991 is the only way to do it, that was less because we had elite players (outside of Emtman) but more because we had a defensive strategy that was largely new to college and teams weren’t largely ready to combat. In the 1992 Rose Bowl the D dominated Michigan. In 1993, Michigan put up 38 and Tyrone Wheatley ran all over us as teams started finding ways to exploit the defense.

    So unless we have plans on revolutionizing defensive football our best shot is to have an elite QB. And guess what you have a great chance of finding on the West Coast compared to the SEC ... it’s the ONLY competitive advantage we almost always will have on the field going forward.

    How'd that work out for USC and UCLA this season? It takes an entire team and you have to be elite on both lines of scrimmage to compete at that level. Having an elite QB doesn't mean shit if you don't have studs across the board in the trenches on both sides.
    USC and UCLA didn't have elite QBs
    Both will be drafted in the top-10. What is your definition of elite?
    NFL potential =/= elite college QB

    Both were high level, but elite college QBs don’t shit the bed in the way Darnold did against Ohio St. or lose as many games as Rosen did. That would be smearing the definition of elite.

    An example of an actually elite QB is Deshaun Watson
    I would consider Lamar Jackson an elite college QB, and he threw 4 picks against MSSU.

  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    Passion said:

    Tequilla said:

    Unpopular opinion alert ...

    UW’s ability to win a National Title will require us to have a Top 10 National Defense that is generally sound and having an elite level QB that plays at an elite level

    For those of you think that 1991 is the only way to do it, that was less because we had elite players (outside of Emtman) but more because we had a defensive strategy that was largely new to college and teams weren’t largely ready to combat. In the 1992 Rose Bowl the D dominated Michigan. In 1993, Michigan put up 38 and Tyrone Wheatley ran all over us as teams started finding ways to exploit the defense.

    So unless we have plans on revolutionizing defensive football our best shot is to have an elite QB. And guess what you have a great chance of finding on the West Coast compared to the SEC ... it’s the ONLY competitive advantage we almost always will have on the field going forward.

    So you're saying that Donald Jones and Andy Mason were not elite college pass rushers?

    The reason michigan had more offense in '93 is because we lost a lot of the "elite" players, including losing Donald Jones and replacing Emtman with Steve Hoffman.
    They were great athletes that had unusual body types that were put in a great position to succeed by (1) the 46 defense, and (2) Emtman.

  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Passion said:

    Tequilla said:

    Unpopular opinion alert ...

    UW’s ability to win a National Title will require us to have a Top 10 National Defense that is generally sound and having an elite level QB that plays at an elite level

    For those of you think that 1991 is the only way to do it, that was less because we had elite players (outside of Emtman) but more because we had a defensive strategy that was largely new to college and teams weren’t largely ready to combat. In the 1992 Rose Bowl the D dominated Michigan. In 1993, Michigan put up 38 and Tyrone Wheatley ran all over us as teams started finding ways to exploit the defense.

    So unless we have plans on revolutionizing defensive football our best shot is to have an elite QB. And guess what you have a great chance of finding on the West Coast compared to the SEC ... it’s the ONLY competitive advantage we almost always will have on the field going forward.

    So you're saying that Donald Jones and Andy Mason were not elite college pass rushers?

    The reason michigan had more offense in '93 is because we lost a lot of the "elite" players, including losing Donald Jones and replacing Emtman with Steve Hoffman.
    No, that can't be right. That wouldn't fit Tequilla's narrative.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Tequilla said:

    Unpopular opinion alert ...

    UW’s ability to win a National Title will require us to have a Top 10 National Defense that is generally sound and having an elite level QB that plays at an elite level

    For those of you think that 1991 is the only way to do it, that was less because we had elite players (outside of Emtman) but more because we had a defensive strategy that was largely new to college and teams weren’t largely ready to combat. In the 1992 Rose Bowl the D dominated Michigan. In 1993, Michigan put up 38 and Tyrone Wheatley ran all over us as teams started finding ways to exploit the defense.

    So unless we have plans on revolutionizing defensive football our best shot is to have an elite QB. And guess what you have a great chance of finding on the West Coast compared to the SEC ... it’s the ONLY competitive advantage we almost always will have on the field going forward.

    This very thread is about an ELITE defensive recruit that UW could have had with better/harder recruiting.
  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840

    Passion said:

    Tequilla said:

    Unpopular opinion alert ...

    UW’s ability to win a National Title will require us to have a Top 10 National Defense that is generally sound and having an elite level QB that plays at an elite level

    For those of you think that 1991 is the only way to do it, that was less because we had elite players (outside of Emtman) but more because we had a defensive strategy that was largely new to college and teams weren’t largely ready to combat. In the 1992 Rose Bowl the D dominated Michigan. In 1993, Michigan put up 38 and Tyrone Wheatley ran all over us as teams started finding ways to exploit the defense.

    So unless we have plans on revolutionizing defensive football our best shot is to have an elite QB. And guess what you have a great chance of finding on the West Coast compared to the SEC ... it’s the ONLY competitive advantage we almost always will have on the field going forward.

    So you're saying that Donald Jones and Andy Mason were not elite college pass rushers?

    The reason michigan had more offense in '93 is because we lost a lot of the "elite" players, including losing Donald Jones and replacing Emtman with Steve Hoffman.
    No, that can't be right. That wouldn't fit Tequilla's narrative.
    It was both. The defense was always a high risk/high reward defense. With the right personnel, it could dominate the offenses of the time period. With corners that weren't quite as good in coverage or a defensive front that wasn't quite as dominating, the defense was a big play waiting to happen for the other team.