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Troy Brown just made Oregon and Washington better
Espn ranked 18th overall player Troy Brown just picked Oregon, which then led to Daejon Davis to re commit to Washington. Oregon only had one scholarship left and it was going to either Davis or Brown. Davis set his announcement time 15 minutes after Brown. Word is, if Brown had not picked Oregon, Davis would, but since Brown picked Oregon and used their last scholarship, Davis went back to Washington.... so win/win?
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It really sucks, because I forgot what a football skullfucking felt like. Unfortunately, thanks to Helfrich, I'm getting quite used to it.
Per Scout rankings (self flagged for Scout, self wtf'ed for TBS)
2017 - 4
2016 - 18
2015 - 6
2014 - NR*
2013 - NR*
2012 - NR*
2011 - 21
2010 - NR*
2009 - 23
2008 - 22
2007 - 30 (actually found rankings beyond 25 for that year)
2006 - 6
2005 - 16
*outside top 25
So of the 13 seasons in the Scout database UW has:
1 top 5 class.
3 top 10 classes.
5 top 20 classes.
8 top 25 classes
What's really amazing is that Romar survived that dreckfest recruiting run in 2010 - 2014 (well other than the fact that he's survived the run of 5 straight year with no tourney), but Washington hates winners.
Came from a smaller conference, but taking the big boys by storm. Altman has Oregon poised for a National Title this year or next year. It's crazy...
Like Peterson, he turned a flailing program and made them great. The one exception being, Oregon wasn't really great in basketball to begin with.
Petersen showed the ability to beat the big boys as well as dominate his smaller conference. Altman only showed the ability to dominate his conference. Before coming to Oregon he was 2-8 in the NCAA tournament.
Shoot, before last year he was only 4-3 at Oregon.
Last year was a huge breakthrough for the Ducks, but nothing in Altman's history tells me it's certain to stick. If he produces another Elite 8 run or better in the next couple of years I'll probably admit I was wrong about him, but dude's spent 27 years as a head coach (ten years at power conference schools) and made the S16 once and the elite 8 once.
I'm still skeptical he's anything more than a little above average.
What Romar does is recruit a bunch of guys and then has no idea how to actually make them play together. Look at the atmosphere he has fostered over the last 6-7 years. Teams transferring in whole, in fighting to the point where teams literally hate each other, recruiting players who have zero biz playing the pac 12 level, adding people's friends on scholy who he knows will be a problem in the locker room, keeping pimps on the team, and the examples could go on. The difference between getting big time talent(a la ross TW) and actually making it into something useful is on full display at UK every year. Romar just thinks he can throw 15 guys together and apparently make a cohesive unit. Not so in college.
He struck gold with BRoy and Conroy and Nate coming of age late, which allowed both to mature and essentially coach the team from the floor. The romar legend was born. Since that team, he has struggled with any number of player rosters and regularly missed expectations by being what we all know, a shitty in game coach and horrendous roster manager. He even tried to bring in different coaches to handle half court and he still is a mess. But his brand can be exciting for players b/c they put up points and most importantly put guys in the NBA.
As DNC pointed out, his classes haven't been earth shattering and that's with a large contingent of local talent leaving for other programs or players he brought in transferring. Christ, how many of these guys did we say this decade have zero point being on a pac-12 roster? The crown of one of his big classes is playing for Gonzaga now. Fuk me
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