Troy Brown just made Oregon and Washington better
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I'll gladly take being 2nd choice to Oregon in basketball while we're skullfucking them in football.
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Very true...NEsnake12 said:I'll gladly take being 2nd choice to Oregon in basketball while we're skullfucking them in football.
It really sucks, because I forgot what a football skullfucking felt like. Unfortunately, thanks to Helfrich, I'm getting quite used to it. -
Romar is getting cucked by Altman?
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But a serious question: How does Romar continue to get elite recruiting classes year after year? You would think that recruits would catch on to the fact that he can't coach for shit, kind of like how the recruits caught on to Ernie while he was at Oregon. But they don't...
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Because he loves Jesus and puts kids into the NBA at almost the same rate as most of the blue bloods.greenblood said:But a serious question: How does Romar continue to get elite recruiting classes year after year? You would think that recruits would catch on to the fact that he can't coach for shit, kind of like how the recruits caught on to Ernie while he was at Oregon. But they don't...
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Not sure he really does get elite classes year after year. I think his recruiting exploits have been pretty exaggerated.greenblood said:But a serious question: How does Romar continue to get elite recruiting classes year after year? You would think that recruits would catch on to the fact that he can't coach for shit, kind of like how the recruits caught on to Ernie while he was at Oregon. But they don't...
Per Scout rankings (self flagged for Scout, self wtf'ed for TBS)
2017 - 4
2016 - 18
2015 - 6
2014 - NR*
2013 - NR*
2012 - NR*
2011 - 21
2010 - NR*
2009 - 23
2008 - 22
2007 - 30 (actually found rankings beyond 25 for that year)
2006 - 6
2005 - 16
*outside top 25
So of the 13 seasons in the Scout database UW has:
1 top 5 class.
3 top 10 classes.
5 top 20 classes.
8 top 25 classes
What's really amazing is that Romar survived that dreckfest recruiting run in 2010 - 2014 (well other than the fact that he's survived the run of 5 straight year with no tourney), but Washington hates winners. -
Davis is another in a line of undisciplined UW players that will likely be 1-2 years tops in college
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I might be over stating a little bit, but I think Altman is the Chris Peterson of college basketball.
Came from a smaller conference, but taking the big boys by storm. Altman has Oregon poised for a National Title this year or next year. It's crazy...
Like Peterson, he turned a flailing program and made them great. The one exception being, Oregon wasn't really great in basketball to begin with. -
No just no... More similar to Urban Meyer jumping from Utah to Floridagreenblood said:I might be over stating a little bit, but I think Altman is the Chris Peterson of college basketball.
Came from a smaller conference, but taking the big boys by storm. Altman has Oregon poised for a National Title this year or next year. It's crazy...
Like Peterson, he turned a flailing program and made them great. The one exception being, Oregon wasn't really great in basketball to begin with.
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The only problem with that comp is that Petersen was way better at the small school than Altman was.greenblood said:I might be over stating a little bit, but I think Altman is the Chris Peterson of college basketball.
Came from a smaller conference, but taking the big boys by storm. Altman has Oregon poised for a National Title this year or next year. It's crazy...
Like Peterson, he turned a flailing program and made them great. The one exception being, Oregon wasn't really great in basketball to begin with.
Petersen showed the ability to beat the big boys as well as dominate his smaller conference. Altman only showed the ability to dominate his conference. Before coming to Oregon he was 2-8 in the NCAA tournament.
Shoot, before last year he was only 4-3 at Oregon.
Last year was a huge breakthrough for the Ducks, but nothing in Altman's history tells me it's certain to stick. If he produces another Elite 8 run or better in the next couple of years I'll probably admit I was wrong about him, but dude's spent 27 years as a head coach (ten years at power conference schools) and made the S16 once and the elite 8 once.
I'm still skeptical he's anything more than a little above average. -
Keep in mind a few other tidbits outside of TF mentioning the NBA angle. Romar allows his players to play more of an NBA style with more freedom to be an athlete, and a lot less on being a team. That is fabulous if you want to showcase your talent for NBA, however undisciplined basketball is exactly what UW sells in recruiting and then showcases annually.greenblood said:But a serious question: How does Romar continue to get elite recruiting classes year after year? You would think that recruits would catch on to the fact that he can't coach for shit, kind of like how the recruits caught on to Ernie while he was at Oregon. But they don't...
What Romar does is recruit a bunch of guys and then has no idea how to actually make them play together. Look at the atmosphere he has fostered over the last 6-7 years. Teams transferring in whole, in fighting to the point where teams literally hate each other, recruiting players who have zero biz playing the pac 12 level, adding people's friends on scholy who he knows will be a problem in the locker room, keeping pimps on the team, and the examples could go on. The difference between getting big time talent(a la ross TW) and actually making it into something useful is on full display at UK every year. Romar just thinks he can throw 15 guys together and apparently make a cohesive unit. Not so in college.
He struck gold with BRoy and Conroy and Nate coming of age late, which allowed both to mature and essentially coach the team from the floor. The romar legend was born. Since that team, he has struggled with any number of player rosters and regularly missed expectations by being what we all know, a shitty in game coach and horrendous roster manager. He even tried to bring in different coaches to handle half court and he still is a mess. But his brand can be exciting for players b/c they put up points and most importantly put guys in the NBA.
As DNC pointed out, his classes haven't been earth shattering and that's with a large contingent of local talent leaving for other programs or players he brought in transferring. Christ, how many of these guys did we say this decade have zero point being on a pac-12 roster? The crown of one of his big classes is playing for Gonzaga now. Fuk me
where's the tylenol
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If you're going to bash Venoy I'm fucking out of here.FreeChavez said:
Keep in mind a few other tidbits outside of TF mentioning the NBA angle. Romar allows his players to play more of an NBA style with more freedom to be an athlete, and a lot less on being a team. That is fabulous if you want to showcase your talent for NBA, however undisciplined basketball is exactly what UW sells in recruiting and then showcases annually.greenblood said:But a serious question: How does Romar continue to get elite recruiting classes year after year? You would think that recruits would catch on to the fact that he can't coach for shit, kind of like how the recruits caught on to Ernie while he was at Oregon. But they don't...
What Romar does is recruit a bunch of guys and then has no idea how to actually make them play together. Look at the atmosphere he has fostered over the last 6-7 years. Teams transferring in whole, in fighting to the point where teams literally hate each other, recruiting players who have zero biz playing the pac 12 level, adding people's friends on scholy who he knows will be a problem in the locker room, keeping pimps on the team, and the examples could go on. The difference between getting big time talent(a la ross TW) and actually making it into something useful is on full display at UK every year. Romar just thinks he can throw 15 guys together and apparently make a cohesive unit. Not so in college.
He struck gold with BRoy and Conroy and Nate coming of age late, which allowed both to mature and essentially coach the team from the floor. The romar legend was born. Since that team, he has struggled with any number of player rosters and regularly missed expectations by being what we all know, a shitty in game coach and horrendous roster manager. He even tried to bring in different coaches to handle half court and he still is a mess. But his brand can be exciting for players b/c they put up points and most importantly put guys in the NBA.
As DNC pointed out, his classes haven't been earth shattering and that's with a large contingent of local talent leaving for other programs or players he brought in transferring. Christ, how many of these guys did we say this decade have zero point being on a pac-12 roster? The crown of one of his big classes is playing for Gonzaga now. Fuk me
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Honest question because I don't follow college basketball anymore: why do all these kids want to go to Oregon all of the sudden?
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I don't care what anyone says, Venoy as a player was fucking awesome. Loved the shit talking swagger. He was no IT but complimented IT with tough defense and clutch free throw shooting.
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The program is a joke ... until LoRo leaves I'm very disinterested
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I loved his early years, but he reached Jensen-level of fucktardedness for his half court heave against UNC when there was still five seconds left.huskyhooligan said:I don't care what anyone says, Venoy as a player was fucking awesome. Loved the shit talking swagger. He was no IT but complimented IT with tough defense and clutch free throw shooting.
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Ah, the memories of playing in march. So fond, and yet still bitter to the tasteUWhuskytskeet said:
I loved his early years, but he reached Jensen-level of fucktardedness for his half court heave against UNC when there was still five seconds left.huskyhooligan said:I don't care what anyone says, Venoy as a player was fucking awesome. Loved the shit talking swagger. He was no IT but complimented IT with tough defense and clutch free throw shooting.
