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Welfare recipients are heavy drug users

2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
Or... Another worthless conservative program.

According to the Tennessean, since the screening process was first established in 2014, a mere 65 out of 39,121 applicants for cash assistance through the Families First in Tennessee program have tested positive for illegal drugs. That means that just 0.17% of applicants have been found to be using illicit drugs.

That number is even lower than what the data revealed after the first year of the screening program. At that point, 0.19% of applicants failed a drug test.

The power of these two numbers lies not in their difference, but their similarity — it's clear that the screening process is consistently finding barely any evidence of drug use among welfare applicants. In fact, the number is strangely low; the general population's illegal drug use rate stands at around 9%.


http://m.mic.com/articles/134650/tennessee-s-drug-testing-program-for-welfare-recipients-is-still-as-ineffective-as-ever#.Fs7nmGxkq
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Who cares? This bullshit has been debunked since Rick Scott was hammered for it back in 2011. That one of the hick states is still experimenting with it is hardly interesting news to anyone outside of that shithole.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Yeah that's how you argue with republicans, with facts and stats and studies.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,511 Founders Club
    Should abolish all public welfare regardless. No one is entitled to someone else's money just for being born, unless they choose to donate it out of free will and aren't forced to by threat of fines or imprisonment.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    PurpleJ said:

    Should abolish all public welfare regardless. No one is entitled to someone else's money just for being born, unless they choose to donate it out of free will and aren't forced to by threat of fines or imprisonment.

    Your opinion is wrong.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,511 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Should abolish all public welfare regardless. No one is entitled to someone else's money just for being born, unless they choose to donate it out of free will and aren't forced to by threat of fines or imprisonment.

    Your opinion is wrong.
    Disagree.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    Should abolish all public welfare regardless. No one is entitled to someone else's money just for being born, unless they choose to donate it out of free will and aren't forced to by threat of fines or imprisonment.

    Someone should abolish you.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,920 Swaye's Wigwam
    It tested new applicants, who knew they had to be clean before joining the program, right?

    What about for all the others on the program with random screens? Wouldn't that be a more accurate measure?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It tested new applicants, who knew they had to be clean before joining the program, right?

    What about for all the others on the program with random screens? Wouldn't that be a more accurate measure?

    I think you have to renew your application at a certain point and it includes a drug test. Could be wrong tho.

    Either way, they just have to go 2 days for the coke to leave their system.
  • RaccoonHarryRaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    I'm against drugs and testing.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,533 Founders Club
    Even Hondo gets it. When you know you are going to get drug tested don't do any for a few days. This isn't tough to figure out.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,993

    It tested new applicants, who knew they had to be clean before joining the program, right?

    What about for all the others on the program with random screens? Wouldn't that be a more accurate measure?

    This. The Florida program only had a couple hundred fail, but they had a ton more that decided not to continue with the application and had overall applications drop significantly.

    But why bring reality into this...
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It tested new applicants, who knew they had to be clean before joining the program, right?

    What about for all the others on the program with random screens? Wouldn't that be a more accurate measure?

    This. The Florida program only had a couple hundred fail, but they had a ton more that decided not to continue with the application and had overall applications drop significantly.

    But why bring reality into this...
    So everyone that didn't continue was a drug addict? Couldn't be because they had gotten a job?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,469 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    It tested new applicants, who knew they had to be clean before joining the program, right?

    What about for all the others on the program with random screens? Wouldn't that be a more accurate measure?

    This. The Florida program only had a couple hundred fail, but they had a ton more that decided not to continue with the application and had overall applications drop significantly.

    But why bring reality into this...
    So everyone that didn't continue was a drug addict? Couldn't be because they had gotten a job?
    That would be a good thing too.

    You want to get a job you have to drug test at a lot of companies. I was against this when it started happening but the courts ruled you don't have a right to a job so the employer doesn't need cause to search your bodily fluids
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165



    This. The Florida program only had a couple hundred fail, but they had a ton more that decided not to continue with the application and had overall applications drop significantly.

    Feel free to provide a source that can at least infer that the overall applications dropped because of the drug test, and not, you know, the recession ending.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,511 Founders Club
    When is the tasting?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,469 Founders Club
    In doing a quick search it turns that courts are ruling drug testing of public assistance users unconstitutional. I guess because its public money.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,511 Founders Club

    In doing a quick search it turns that courts are ruling drug testing of public assistance users unconstitutional. I guess because its public money.

    But what about tasting?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886

    I'm against all drug testing.

    I was for common sense drug testing before I was against it.
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