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Top 30 Recruits since 2000, per Composite TBS Ratings

AIRWOLFAIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
in The Fisch Bowl (Recruiting)
Here are the rankings with my comments. I also attached a file with the actual data.

1 Reggie Williams - All time great
2 Shaq Thompson - Super star difference maker
3 Nathan Rhodes - Injury retirement bust
4 Jacob Sirmon - Going to be great next year…as a Junior at Bothell HS
5 Matt Tuiasosopo - MLB draft. Couldn't hit
6 Charles Frederick - Solid player, overrated probably
7 Kavario Middleton - Massively overrated, no strength or desire, transfer BUST
8 Kasen Williams - Horrible injury derailed career, still solid
9 Dan Dicks - Overrated
10 Austin Seferian-Jenkins - Super star difference maker
11 Jake Locker - Tim Tebow with speed, wasted on bad teams
12 Budda Baker - Stud
13 Casey Paus - LOL
14 Donny Mateaki - Massively overrated
15 Damore'ea Stringfellow - Currently keepin' it real in Oxford, MS
16 Craig Chambers - *poop emoji*
17 Jake Browning - Colt McCoy starter kit?
18 Byron Murphy - Biggest Positive Signing Day surprise since 2000, by the ratings
19 Troy Williams - Starting for the Utes in 2016?
20 Cyler Miles - Lamar Latrell throwing motion + gimpy hip = BUST
21 Sean Parker - Solid player, overrated probably
22 Elijah Qualls - Super star difference maker (?)
23 Sione Potoa'e - Massively overrated
24 Darrell Daniels - Criminally underutilized so far
25 Camilo Eifler - Highest rated LB recruit since 2000
26 Isaiah Stanback - Tons of talent, wasted on bad teams
27 Chris Polk - Best UW RB not named Sankey since Corey Dillon
28 Josh Shirley - Overrated, managed to be productive without being "good"
29 Jaydon Mickens - Caught more than he dropped
30 Keith Taylor - Jimmy Lake seems to know what he is doing
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882
    So what you are saying is that player development matters
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  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,889 Standard Supporter
    I thought Dan Dicks would end up being pretty good but, like Colin Porter, Ben Riva and Dex Charles recently, the injuries piled up and he had to retire.

    Neuheisel was such a star f'er...that 2002 class was high on stars and low on actual above average Pac-12 guys:

    https://washington.n.rivals.com/commitments/football/2002
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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,494 Founders Club
    List invalid. No Ossai.
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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    edited February 2016
    Thank you for this @AIRWOLF - this is awesome. Because you're so smart and right about almost everything, I didn't have much to crisp, but I still crisped what I could.

    1 Reggie Williams - All time great <----THIS
    2 Shaq Thompson - Play maker, but not a great player
    3 Nathan Rhodes - I just picture the Batman villain Egghead.
    4 Jacob Sirmon - BEST RECRUIT EVER.
    5 Matt Tuiasosopo - MLB draft. Couldn't hit <----THIS
    6 Charles Frederick - Solid player, overrated probably. <b>Hair dance gameday champion
    7 Kavario Middleton - Massively overrated, no strength or desire, transfer BUST Insane athletic talent. Head talent lacking.
    8 Kasen Williams - Horrible injury derailed career, still solid <----THIS
    9 Dan Dicks - Overrated Truffle shuffle gameday champion.
    10 Austin Seferian-Jenkins - Kavario Middleton's body and a fag's mind.
    11 Jake Locker - Tim Tebow with speed, wasted on bad teams <----THIS
    12 Budda Baker - Undersized stud.
    13 Casey Paus - LOL <----THIS
    14 Donny Mateaki - Massively overrated by @Passion
    15 Damore'ea Stringfellow - Currently keepin' it real in Oxford, MS <----THIS
    16 Craig Chambers - When he played he was good; weird career.
    17 Jake Browning - Colt McCoy starter kit? <----THIS
    18 Byron Murphy - Future drug addict.
    19 Troy Williams - BLACK POWER!
    20 Cyler Miles - Lamar Latrell throwing motion + gimpy hip = BUST <----THIS
    21 Sean Parker - Solid player, doog legend.
    22 Elijah Qualls - Super star difference maker (?) <----THIS
    23 Sione Potoa'e - Massively overrated: Nick Holt said he'd be gone in three years if they didn't ruin him.
    24 Darrell Daniels - Criminally underutilized so far <----THIS
    25 Camilo Eifler - Highest rated LB recruit since 2000 <----THIS
    26 Isaiah Stanback - Tons of talent, wasted on bad teams <----THIS
    27 Chris Polk - Best UW RB not named Sankey since Corey Dillon <----THIS
    28 Josh Shirley - Overrated, managed to be productive without being "good" <----THIS
    29 Jaydon Mickens - Caught more than he dropped <----THIS
    30 Keith Taylor - Jimmy Lake seems to know what he is doing <----THIS
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  • GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Thanks for compiling this list. Interesting read.
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    AIRWOLF said:

    Tequilla said:

    So what you are saying is that player development matters

    Evaluation matters too. The TBS recruiting consensus isn't a terrible indicator of talent, but it gets plenty wrong too.

    And, not to sound like Petersen, but evaluating character and motivation matters too.

    Let's take the case of Kavario Middleton. The guy came in as one of our highest rated players ever, but he was a complete weakling and was totally lacking in the work ethic necessarily to get stronger and better.
    I'm sorry to bash the kids, but if you have ever met Middleton you know he's a dickhead. If he was tough, it would be fine, but he's was Charmin soft on the field. He did have great hands though. His size and hands let him dominate at the high school level, but he didn't have the speed or quickness to be a true threat in college. If he wasn't a pussy he could have been a huge blocking TE with great hands.
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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    Your 10,11 and 27 evals i disagree with.
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  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    edited February 2016
    salemcoog said:

    Your 10,11 and 27 evals i disagree with.

    Who do you put above Polk? Or are you saying Sankey < Polk?
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,744
    UWhuskytskeet said:

    salemcoog said:

    Your 10,11 and 27 evals i disagree with.

    Who do you put above Polk? Or are you saying Sankey < Polk?
    Coog probably hates Snakey
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  • AIRWOLFAIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    salemcoog said:

    Your 10,11 and 27 evals i disagree with.

    Without even hearing your opinions on these, I know they are wrong.
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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    AIRWOLF said:

    The next 30:

    31 Deontae Cooper - Worst luck ever. Now a Junior/Senior and collecting Social Security
    32 Joe Mathis - All hair team. Edgy. Might turn out to be decent, but looking overrated so far.
    33 Chris Izbicki - Worthless
    34 James Sample - Transfered to Louisville. Pretty good there
    35 Everrette Thompson - Decent player, at best. Overrated
    36 Eric Kohler - Fell apart physically. Didn't suck when healthy. Injury bust.
    37 Brandon Wellington - Bargain basement Shaq T?
    38 Cameron Elisara - EGADS!
    39 Sean McGrew - Pigmentationally challenged former star of Little People, Big World
    40 K.J. Carta-Samuels - Best UW double-wing QB since Gil Dobie prowled the sidelines
    41 Benning Potoae - Potato the Elder was disappointing
    42 Austin Joyner - *fingers crossed*
    43 Jermaine Kelly - Disappointing. Transferred.
    44 Isaiah Gilchrist - Slightly less athletic Buda Baker, hopefully.
    45 Kevin Smith - Late bloomer as a WR. Now in NFL. Next Kearse?
    46 John Ross - Fast and explosive. Maybe he'll learn to play WR
    47 Jeff Lindquist - He is a good student and Swedish.
    48 Henry Roberts - Hopefully more Steve Schilling than Dan Dicks
    49 Pio Vatuvei - It is always 420 somewhere.
    50 Alameda Ta'amu - NFL Player. Probably ranked about right.
    51 Bishop Sankey - He was actually underrated. Top 4 UW RB of all time.
    52 Luke Wattenberg - A highly rated OL from California? Is this a typo?
    53 Kenny James - He was okay. Possibly overrated. Played on bad teams.
    54 Marcel Reece - When you can recruit a future pro bowl fullback, you do it, even as a WR.
    55 Dashon Goldson - Very good player who played on atrocious defenses. Long time NFL player.
    56 Keauntea Bankhead - Jayson Bass Award Winner
    57 E.J. Savannah - Probably would have been pretty good with decent coaching
    58 Stanley Daniels - Well spoken wireless internet salesman
    59 John Lyon - Poor man's Izbicki
    60 J.R. Hasty - First Team All Dipshit

    I feel like I'm reading one of my own poasts. Well done.
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  • AIRWOLFAIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    Tequilla said:

    So what you are saying is that player development matters

    Evaluation matters too. The TBS recruiting consensus isn't a terrible indicator of talent, but it gets plenty wrong too.

    And, not to sound like Petersen, but evaluating character and motivation matters too.

    Let's take the case of Kavario Middleton. The guy came in as one of our highest rated players ever, but he was a complete weakling and was totally lacking in the work ethic necessarily to get stronger and better.
    I'm sorry to bash the kids, but if you have ever met Middleton you know he's a dickhead. If he was tough, it would be fine, but he's was Charmin soft on the field. He did have great hands though. His size and hands let him dominate at the high school level, but he didn't have the speed or quickness to be a true threat in college. If he wasn't a pussy he could have been a huge blocking TE with great hands.
    I have heard that his max bench press as a HS senior started with a 1.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    This is so good I'm willing to look at ads on this site.
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  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    What does @Dennis_DeYoung have against Byron Murphy? Staff?
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  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,739 Swaye's Wigwam
    Keep in mind, the 247 composite rankings has much less data on the previous classes because it is only using one source versus the latter ones which are a true composite of 4 systems. It's impossible to adjust for with just this data, but you can consider there to be quite a bit more deviation and variation between the 2000-2006 classes versus the 2007-2016 classes due to the increased number of observations for each ranking. Also, the methodologies of evaluating and ranking players has changed over time, so it's difficult to compare across a 15-year period.

    It really isn't much, but I just wanted to bitch because I was thinking about posting this data over the weekend.
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  • section_332section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    edited February 2016
    No Marcus Peters?

    Edit. I glanced. I only read tequilas long shit
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  • AIRWOLFAIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    section_332 said:

    No Marcus Peters?

    Edit. I glanced. I only read tequilas long shit

    He was a 3 star. Maybe a high 3 star, but definitely not in the top 60.

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