Murphy to start out at WR?

NeGgaPlEaSe

And Gilchrist to safety. Will Murphy ever make it back to defense?

HUSKYFANATIC

Where is this info coming from?

ToddTurnerLIVES

It seems like that is the spot where we have the most need for him. I think the Myles Bryant pick up is so big for that reason. Bryant is a really good player but will need a few years before he sees the field. Having him gives us the ability to use Murphy on offense without the risk of having a hole in the roster for the secondary 2 years down the road.

whatshouldicareabout

Murphy can play both ways, and considering the depth and talent at the positions, I can see him at WR more than CB this season.

However, if he were playing strictly CB, I could see him passing Gardenhire this fall.

AIRWOLF

HUSKYFANATIC said:

Where is this info coming from?

It is a bit of inference based on the depth chart and Lake's comments on Murphy's highlight video.

I think it is reasonable speculation.

NeGgaPlEaSe

AIRWOLF said:

HUSKYFANATIC said:

Where is this info coming from?

It is a bit of inference based on the depth chart and Lake's comments on Murphy's highlight video.

I think it is reasonable speculation.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting on offense at some point and time, which would make the receiver group more than pedestrian. Ross, Murphy Renfro And Daniels (Lenius and Dr Feelgood's BFF) may be enough to give Gaskin room to rush for 1800 yards. Does he ever see the defensive side of the ball again if he moves?

chuck

Murphy has quick feet, cuts on a dime and one of the coaches raved about his ball skills (think it was Lake). Watch his highlights and you can see how fundamentally polished he is catching passes. He's over 6' and we probably all agree that uw needs a decent sized wr with some play making ability.

We* have a bunch of good cover guys and brought in a couple of other candidates along with Murphy who don't look nearly as good at receiver. There's only one dangerous receiver on the roster who sat out last season with a bad knee and he hasn't been heavily used as an offensive player yet at UW.

Murphy is going to play receiver. You heard it here first (more like 10th but still).

AIRWOLF

chuck said:

Murphy has quick feet, cuts on a dime and one of the coaches raved about his ball skills (think it was Lake). Watch his highlights and you can see how fundamentally polished he is catching passes. He's over 6' and we probably all agree that uw needs a decent sized wr with some play making ability.

We* have a bunch of good cover guys and brought in a couple of other candidates along with Murphy who don't look nearly as good at receiver. There's only one dangerous receiver on the roster who sat out last season with a bad knee and he hasn't been heavily used as an offensive player yet at UW.

Murphy is going to play receiver. You heard it here first (more like 10th but still).

I'm not as down on Renfro as some people seem to be. Yeah, he didn't get as many reps as he probably should have given the three guys ahead of him, but between being a Freshman and Pease being his position coach, I can give him a pass on that.

chuck

AIRWOLF said:

chuck said:

Murphy has quick feet, cuts on a dime and one of the coaches raved about his ball skills (think it was Lake). Watch his highlights and you can see how fundamentally polished he is catching passes. He's over 6' and we probably all agree that uw needs a decent sized wr with some play making ability.

We* have a bunch of good cover guys and brought in a couple of other candidates along with Murphy who don't look nearly as good at receiver. There's only one dangerous receiver on the roster who sat out last season with a bad knee and he hasn't been heavily used as an offensive player yet at UW.

Murphy is going to play receiver. You heard it here first (more like 10th but still).

I'm not as down on Renfro as some people seem to be. Yeah, he didn't get as many reps as he probably should have given the three guys ahead of him, but between being a Freshman and Pease being his position coach, I can give him a pass on that.

I'm fine with Renfro but I don't think he's exceptional in any way. He has decent size but not great and isnt fast. He's not going to intimidate any defenses as a big play threat. There needs to be more than one wr on the roster who can burn an aggressive defense deep or take a screen or quick slant and turn it into a big gain.

HuskyInAZ

Murphy is not very big at all. IMO, he has a ways to go to play WR in the P12. Also, I'm not sure how fast he is. He never ran track in HS, so it's hard to gauge. But I like his chances on the 50/50 balls.

Tequilla

Murphy doesn't look like a natural WR to me ... looks way more natural playing defense.

I think Renfro has a chance to be a good one ... he may have been the only WR on our roster last year that I thought really looked the part. I could see him taking a sizable leap forward next year and being a consistent starter opposite Pettis.

RoadDawg55

I know Renfro was a freshman, but 25 receptions is probably more likely than 50. He's a solid player, but I agree with Chuck that he's probably not exceptional.

doogsinparadise

Something interesting that I saw in the s+p stat drop was that Renfro has a really high catch to target percentage. Jaydon, Pettis, and Hall had shitty ratios whereas the tight ends did pretty well, so that gives me some hope that he has enough physicality and that he'll turn out ok.

AEB

doogsinparadise said:

Something interesting that I saw in the s+p stat drop was that Renfro has a really high catch to target percentage. Jaydon, Pettis, and Hall had shitty ratios whereas the tight ends did pretty well, so that gives me some hope that he has enough physicality and that he'll turn out ok.

I believe Lenius had the highest catch ratio FWIW

whatshouldicareabout

AEB said:

doogsinparadise said:

Something interesting that I saw in the s+p stat drop was that Renfro has a really high catch to target percentage. Jaydon, Pettis, and Hall had shitty ratios whereas the tight ends did pretty well, so that gives me some hope that he has enough physicality and that he'll turn out ok.

I believe Lenius had the highest catch ratio FWIW

If that's true, it just shows how shitty he is at running routes and getting open.

AIRWOLF

AEB said:

doogsinparadise said:

Something interesting that I saw in the s+p stat drop was that Renfro has a really high catch to target percentage. Jaydon, Pettis, and Hall had shitty ratios whereas the tight ends did pretty well, so that gives me some hope that he has enough physicality and that he'll turn out ok.

I believe Lenius had the highest catch ratio FWIW

Not quite. He near the top of the non-TEs. Renfro was actually slightly higher, but was targeted half as often as Lenius.

whatshouldicareabout said:

AEB said:

doogsinparadise said:

Something interesting that I saw in the s+p stat drop was that Renfro has a really high catch to target percentage. Jaydon, Pettis, and Hall had shitty ratios whereas the tight ends did pretty well, so that gives me some hope that he has enough physicality and that he'll turn out ok.

I believe Lenius had the highest catch ratio FWIW

If that's true, it just shows how shitty he is at running routes and getting open.

And yes.

Lenius played a lot of snaps as basically a starting WR who was never out with injury, but was only targeted 35 times in 13 games.

Compare that to D. Washington who split time at running back and missed all of five games, but was targeted 30 times.

dnc

AIRWOLF said:

AEB said:

doogsinparadise said:

Something interesting that I saw in the s+p stat drop was that Renfro has a really high catch to target percentage. Jaydon, Pettis, and Hall had shitty ratios whereas the tight ends did pretty well, so that gives me some hope that he has enough physicality and that he'll turn out ok.

I believe Lenius had the highest catch ratio FWIW

Not quite. He near the top of the non-TEs. Renfro was actually slightly higher, but was targeted half as often as Lenius.

whatshouldicareabout said:

AEB said:

doogsinparadise said:

Something interesting that I saw in the s+p stat drop was that Renfro has a really high catch to target percentage. Jaydon, Pettis, and Hall had shitty ratios whereas the tight ends did pretty well, so that gives me some hope that he has enough physicality and that he'll turn out ok.

I believe Lenius had the highest catch ratio FWIW

If that's true, it just shows how shitty he is at running routes and getting open.

And yes.

Lenius played a lot of snaps as basically a starting WR who was never out with injury, but was only targeted 35 times in 13 games.

Compare that to D. Washington who split time at running back and missed all of five games, but was targeted 30 times.

And knew how to find the first down marker.

Dennis_DeYoung

Murphy is a gifted receiver and has really great small-space quickness. In his senior film (what little there is of it), it looks like he got a bit lazy and started letting the ball get into his body when he caught it.

In his junior film, the guy is impressive catching the football away from his body and high-pointing with strong hands and quickly tucks and runs.

In terms of after the catch stuff, the kid is definitely gifted there as well.

The best 'after-the-catch' guy we've had in the post-modern (post 2001) era is John Ross. Murphy isn't close to John Ross, but Ross is special. I don't exactly know who would be #2, but he has a chance to be #2. He can definitely make people miss.

Reminds me of an old-school 'Flanker'.

We* don't need him on defense in my opinion. If you look at our depth at DB, he's somewhat superfluous... this year he would be no better than our 4th CB at best.

2016: Jones, King, Gardenhire, Joyner, Miller, Lewis... ... ... Love, Murphy?

Next year, we have some holes depending on how Joyner develops, as Sid and King are gonezo.

2017: Gardenhire, Joyner, Love... ...?

Our WRs are a big mystery because I think all of us know that Ross could be incredible. Pettis and Lenius have flashed, but played like dog-shit last year. Renfro flashed, can he be actually good?

Right now, it looks like our X is Lenius, our Z is Pettis and our Y is Ross. We are obviously hoping that Renfro is an X, but beyond that, we've got nothing. Murphy could easily be one of our top performers at WR this year.

Given all that, I think you put him at WR.

AIRWOLF

It's too bad that Lenius didn't redshirt. And it's even more too bad that he was one of the Top 3 WRs on this team last season.

The guy is a natural pass catcher but is super raw. He only played one season of real HS football (Canada doesn't count, unless we are talking hockey or lacrosse).

If he had red-shirted and didn't have two years wasted being coached by Pease, he'd probably have a better shot at developing his potential.

He ought to be a reliable possession receiver, red-zone threat and dominating outside blocker by next year. At this point, I'd be impressed if he could become even one of those things.

AtomicDawg

Fuck Lenius. He is a huge pussy that doesn't think or care.

longduckdong

Murphy's hands are stiffer then Fatters' cock after a chili cook off.
His will to play WR is smaller then Smiffs IQ