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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    LSU would be foolish in my mind to fire Miles ...

    He's definitely on the downward side of his career and probably only has 3-5 years left, but he should be able to choose when and how he goes out.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    Tequilla said:

    LSU would be foolish in my mind to fire Miles ...

    He's definitely on the downward side of his career and probably only has 3-5 years left, but he should be able to choose when and how he goes out.

    Disagree. They want to be the best. It's not going to happen with Miles when Saban is at Alabama. They could continue on or they could take a chance they hire a guy who can beat Saban.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Right, but Saban isn't going to be at Alabama that much longer as well.

    Point being that what they need to make sure of is that they are at the front of the line and beat Alabama to the punch when it comes to a new coach.

    Miles has done well there. He lost to Bama and then lost a hangover game. I would be surprised if they lost out the rest of the way.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,265
    They should hire CP
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    I'd fire Miles if I were LSU and I knew I could get a great coach, but they're not going to pay the $15 million buyout AND be able to afford the $7 million or more per year that it would take to get JImbo.

    I doubt Miles goes anywhere.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    If I were Jimbo, I would stay at Florida State. He can stockpile some of the best talent available and play two tough games every year.

    I'm hearing that LSU only plays one tough game a year.

    And LSU has more talent than FSU. Miles record would be tough to follow. Fans are restless because they won two nattys under Saban and Miles and are now losing 2 games a year.

    It would be like actually firing Don James in the 80's and he hadn't won a natty yet. Only worse
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,265
    edited November 2015
    Miles' buyout is $15million....his assistants total buyout would be another $2million.

    I realize chump-change ...but then you throw in Fisher's $5 million buyout they would also have to pay...plus his $5million salary......that's a lot of cabbage.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    dnc said:

    I'd fire Miles if I were LSU and I knew I could get a great coach, but they're not going to pay the $15 million buyout AND be able to afford the $7 million or more per year that it would take to get JImbo.

    I doubt Miles goes anywhere.

    I bet they could afford it.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127

    If I were Jimbo, I would stay at Florida State. He can stockpile some of the best talent available and play two tough games every year.

    I'm hearing that LSU only plays one tough game a year.

    And LSU has more talent than FSU. Miles record would be tough to follow. Fans are restless because they won two nattys under Saban and Miles and are now losing 2 games a year.

    It would be like actually firing Don James in the 80's and he hadn't won a natty yet. Only worse
    This year LSU only played one tough game.

    The SEC used to be good when Auburn had Newton and Arkansas had Petrino. In the future it should be good again. It's nothing special right now, mostly because nobody has a QB.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Fisher isn't really that great of a coach, honestly
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    Tequilla said:

    Right, but Saban isn't going to be at Alabama that much longer as well.

    Point being that what they need to make sure of is that they are at the front of the line and beat Alabama to the punch when it comes to a new coach.

    Miles has done well there. He lost to Bama and then lost a hangover game. I would be surprised if they lost out the rest of the way.

    Would be great if LSU paid a fortune to dump Miles and shortly afterward Saban announced he's going back to the NFL...
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    "Big boy programs?" Dumb. There was talk of putting Saban out to pasture after his loss to Ole Miss too. Didn't happen, nor will this.

    Miles > Fisher.

    .780 win percentage. Oh, and this:

    image
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    I'm hearing LSU will get in a bidding war for Chip Kelly with Texas.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    TTJ said:

    "Big boy programs?" Dumb. There was talk of putting Saban out to pasture after his loss to Ole Miss too. Didn't happen, nor will this.

    Miles > Fisher.

    .780 win percentage. Oh, and this:

    image

    The reason to hire Fisher is simple. He was the OC of that title team. He will get a good QB to LSU and once they have that they are set. They will always have a good defense and some good RB's.

    Their problem has been QB and OC forever. They had a team with two starting NFL WR's (Beckham and Jarvis), a starting RB in the NFL (Jeremy Hill), and Zach Mettenberger and were still 10-3. It's not crazy to fire a coach over that.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,162
    Leach would jump ship
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732

    TTJ said:

    "Big boy programs?" Dumb. There was talk of putting Saban out to pasture after his loss to Ole Miss too. Didn't happen, nor will this.

    Miles > Fisher.

    .780 win percentage. Oh, and this:

    image

    The reason to hire Fisher is simple. He was the OC of that title team. He will get a good QB to LSU and once they have that they are set. They will always have a good defense and some good RB's.

    Their problem has been QB and OC forever. They had a team with two starting NFL WR's (Beckham and Jarvis), a starting RB in the NFL (Jeremy Hill), and Zach Mettenberger and were still 10-3. It's not crazy to fire a coach over that.
    This is such typical impetulant, millennial gibberish. How about fire Patterson & Boyles because their defense sucks balls? Hire bright, young, successful DCs as head coach and the they'd be set. Right? Fire Kelly at ND too. He has more losses @ND than Miles has at LSU since 2010. Maybe even fire Pete Carroll because his offense sucks. A proven OC to replace him, the Hawks would be set. It's beyond FS.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    HuskyInAZ said:

    TTJ said:

    "Big boy programs?" Dumb. There was talk of putting Saban out to pasture after his loss to Ole Miss too. Didn't happen, nor will this.

    Miles > Fisher.

    .780 win percentage. Oh, and this:

    image

    The reason to hire Fisher is simple. He was the OC of that title team. He will get a good QB to LSU and once they have that they are set. They will always have a good defense and some good RB's.

    Their problem has been QB and OC forever. They had a team with two starting NFL WR's (Beckham and Jarvis), a starting RB in the NFL (Jeremy Hill), and Zach Mettenberger and were still 10-3. It's not crazy to fire a coach over that.
    This is such typical impetulant, millennial gibberish. How about fire Patterson & Boyles because their defense sucks balls? Hire bright, young, successful DCs as head coach and the they'd be set. Right? Fire Kelly at ND too. He has more losses @ND than Miles has at LSU since 2010. Maybe even fire Pete Carroll because his offense sucks. A proven OC to replace him, the Hawks would be set. It's beyond FS.
    Fisher was OC, their offense has sucked (for the talent level) since he's left and he's won 27 games in a row and a title at Florida State. Other than that, great post.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Hi, Gary Crowton was LSU's OC for their last Natty. Jimbo was there for the ridiculous roster Saban left behind.

    Obviously Les just needs to hire an elite OC and get out of their way.

    If he doesn't then he will deserve whatever the AD chooses to do one way or the other.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    Mosster47 said:

    Hi, Gary Crowton was LSU's OC for their last Natty. Jimbo was there for the ridiculous roster Saban left behind.

    Obviously Les just needs to hire an elite OC and get out of their way.

    If he doesn't then he will deserve whatever the AD chooses to do one way or the other.

    @RoadDawg55 said he was the OC for that LSU national title in 2007....except he was the OC at FSU 2007-2009 at FSU, where they went 7-6, 9-4, 7-6. His tenure as OC at LSU was 2000-2006. Are you suggesting that @RoadDawg55 is wrong? How dare you.

    I agree that Miles needs to get a good OC. But when a dumb fuck suggests he needs to be fired at this point and then flat fucking lies about history....color me surprised.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    edited November 2015
    HuskyInAZ said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Hi, Gary Crowton was LSU's OC for their last Natty. Jimbo was there for the ridiculous roster Saban left behind.

    Obviously Les just needs to hire an elite OC and get out of their way.

    If he doesn't then he will deserve whatever the AD chooses to do one way or the other.

    @RoadDawg55 said he was the OC for that LSU national title in 2007....except he was the OC at FSU 2007-2009 at FSU, where they went 7-6, 9-4, 7-6. His tenure as OC at LSU was 2000-2006. Are you suggesting that @RoadDawg55 is wrong? How dare you.

    I agree that Miles needs to get a good OC. But when a dumb fuck suggests he needs to be fired at this point and then flat fucking lies about history....color me surprised.
    My bad I missed it by one year. I forgot Crowton was hired. Fisher was OC when Saban won at a title at LSU.

    LSU can continue to go 10-3 and get beat by Saban every year or they can try something new. I know which option I would choose. Jimbo Fisher has proven himself to be a pretty good coach. If you remembered the FSU stuff at all, Fisher and his guys didn't get along with the Bowden coaches. It was an ugly situation.

    You are the only one who is probably dumb enough to use Fisher's time as OC at FSU against him. I know it's just you searching for anything to point out that I'm wrong, but it's still pretty stupid. It's even dumber when you consider that FSU became elite again once Fisher became the head guy.

    I am suggesting that you are an annoying doog who has a very similar posting style to Section14A.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Hi, Gary Crowton was LSU's OC for their last Natty. Jimbo was there for the ridiculous roster Saban left behind.

    Obviously Les just needs to hire an elite OC and get out of their way.

    If he doesn't then he will deserve whatever the AD chooses to do one way or the other.

    @RoadDawg55 said he was the OC for that LSU national title in 2007....except he was the OC at FSU 2007-2009 at FSU, where they went 7-6, 9-4, 7-6. His tenure as OC at LSU was 2000-2006. Are you suggesting that @RoadDawg55 is wrong? How dare you.

    I agree that Miles needs to get a good OC. But when a dumb fuck suggests he needs to be fired at this point and then flat fucking lies about history....color me surprised.
    My bad I missed it by one year. I forgot Crowton was hired. Fisher was OC when Saban won at a title at LSU.

    LSU can continue to go 10-3 and get beat by Saban every year or they can try something new. I know which option I would choose. Jimbo Fisher has proven himself to be a pretty good coach. If you remembered the FSU stuff at all, Fisher and his guys didn't get along with the Bowden coaches. It was an ugly situation.

    You are the only one who is probably dumb enough to use Fisher's time as OC at FSU against him. I know it's just you searching for anything to point out that I'm wrong, but it's still pretty stupid. It's even dumber when you consider that FSU became elite again once Fisher became the head guy.

    I am suggesting that you are an annoying doog who has a very similar posting style to Section14A.
    Don't know who or what Section14A is, nor do I care. I do have an issue with impetulant millennials who spew stupid shit.

    I didn't bring up Fisher. He's obviously a very good HC, but to suggest he is an upgrade to Miles is FS. My problem is that when I see FS posts from someone who I view as a good poster, I have a really hard time holding back. If hondo posted the same thing, I wouldn't give a fuck. I've grown to appreciate your posts, but when you lay a turd, I'm gonna call it out and let you know it stinks.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Hi, Gary Crowton was LSU's OC for their last Natty. Jimbo was there for the ridiculous roster Saban left behind.

    Obviously Les just needs to hire an elite OC and get out of their way.

    If he doesn't then he will deserve whatever the AD chooses to do one way or the other.

    @RoadDawg55 said he was the OC for that LSU national title in 2007....except he was the OC at FSU 2007-2009 at FSU, where they went 7-6, 9-4, 7-6. His tenure as OC at LSU was 2000-2006. Are you suggesting that @RoadDawg55 is wrong? How dare you.

    I agree that Miles needs to get a good OC. But when a dumb fuck suggests he needs to be fired at this point and then flat fucking lies about history....color me surprised.
    My bad I missed it by one year. I forgot Crowton was hired. Fisher was OC when Saban won at a title at LSU.

    LSU can continue to go 10-3 and get beat by Saban every year or they can try something new. I know which option I would choose. Jimbo Fisher has proven himself to be a pretty good coach. If you remembered the FSU stuff at all, Fisher and his guys didn't get along with the Bowden coaches. It was an ugly situation.

    You are the only one who is probably dumb enough to use Fisher's time as OC at FSU against him. I know it's just you searching for anything to point out that I'm wrong, but it's still pretty stupid. It's even dumber when you consider that FSU became elite again once Fisher became the head guy.

    I am suggesting that you are an annoying doog who has a very similar posting style to Section14A.
    Don't know who or what Section14A is, nor do I care. I do have an issue with impetulant millennials who spew stupid shit.

    I didn't bring up Fisher. He's obviously a very good HC, but to suggest he is an upgrade to Miles is FS. My problem is that when I see FS posts from someone who I view as a good poster, I have a really hard time holding back. If hondo posted the same thing, I wouldn't give a fuck. I've grown to appreciate your posts, but when you lay a turd, I'm gonna call it out and let you know it stinks.
    I don't think it's a guarantee he's better. I understand why LSU would want Miles out and I also understand why Fisher would be a good fit.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    TTJ said:

    "Big boy programs?" Dumb. There was talk of putting Saban out to pasture after his loss to Ole Miss too. Didn't happen, nor will this.

    Miles > Fisher.

    .780 win percentage. Oh, and this:

    image

    Fisher > Miles

    .835 win percentage. Oh, and this:

    image

    1 trophy in 5 years > 1 trophy in 11 years.
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    HuskyInAZ said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Hi, Gary Crowton was LSU's OC for their last Natty. Jimbo was there for the ridiculous roster Saban left behind.

    Obviously Les just needs to hire an elite OC and get out of their way.

    If he doesn't then he will deserve whatever the AD chooses to do one way or the other.

    @RoadDawg55 said he was the OC for that LSU national title in 2007....except he was the OC at FSU 2007-2009 at FSU, where they went 7-6, 9-4, 7-6. His tenure as OC at LSU was 2000-2006. Are you suggesting that @RoadDawg55 is wrong? How dare you.

    I agree that Miles needs to get a good OC. But when a dumb fuck suggests he needs to be fired at this point and then flat fucking lies about history....color me surprised.
    My bad I missed it by one year. I forgot Crowton was hired. Fisher was OC when Saban won at a title at LSU.

    LSU can continue to go 10-3 and get beat by Saban every year or they can try something new. I know which option I would choose. Jimbo Fisher has proven himself to be a pretty good coach. If you remembered the FSU stuff at all, Fisher and his guys didn't get along with the Bowden coaches. It was an ugly situation.

    You are the only one who is probably dumb enough to use Fisher's time as OC at FSU against him. I know it's just you searching for anything to point out that I'm wrong, but it's still pretty stupid. It's even dumber when you consider that FSU became elite again once Fisher became the head guy.

    I am suggesting that you are an annoying doog who has a very similar posting style to Section14A.
    Don't know who or what Section14A is, nor do I care. I do have an issue with impetulant millennials who spew stupid shit.

    I didn't bring up Fisher. He's obviously a very good HC, but to suggest he is an upgrade to Miles is FS. My problem is that when I see FS posts from someone who I view as a good poster, I have a really hard time holding back. If hondo posted the same thing, I wouldn't give a fuck. I've grown to appreciate your posts, but when you lay a turd, I'm gonna call it out and let you know it stinks.
    If you knew Section14a you'd be a lot more pissed than you are.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    HuskyInAZ said:

    TTJ said:

    "Big boy programs?" Dumb. There was talk of putting Saban out to pasture after his loss to Ole Miss too. Didn't happen, nor will this.

    Miles > Fisher.

    .780 win percentage. Oh, and this:

    image

    The reason to hire Fisher is simple. He was the OC of that title team. He will get a good QB to LSU and once they have that they are set. They will always have a good defense and some good RB's.

    Their problem has been QB and OC forever. They had a team with two starting NFL WR's (Beckham and Jarvis), a starting RB in the NFL (Jeremy Hill), and Zach Mettenberger and were still 10-3. It's not crazy to fire a coach over that.
    This is such typical impetulant, millennial gibberish. How about fire Patterson & Boyles because their defense sucks balls? Hire bright, young, successful DCs as head coach and the they'd be set. Right? Fire Kelly at ND too. He has more losses @ND than Miles has at LSU since 2010. Maybe even fire Pete Carroll because his offense sucks. A proven OC to replace him, the Hawks would be set. It's beyond FS.
    Old man triggered
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Can I get a ruling on what the fuck a millennial is please?

    I lost track at Gen X or Z. I'm a boomer and I know our kids are horrible but I think we're past that generation.

    If millennials are in their 20's I've met some cool ones that are pretty smart and level headed.

    And smokin hot

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  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    Wait, does' the LSU already have an agreement with Okie State? Expect Mike Gundy to get promoted to LSU after Miles goes.