Is Peterman delusional about his offensive struggles?

MadHusky

If so, what will wake him up so that he does what it takes to win?

dongman

He is young and john Smith is young, players are young. Even the field is young. Just need to wait till the coaches, players, and the field are seniors.

Postal91

Which seniors..... 2023?

dongman said:

He is young and john Smith is young, players are young. Even the field is young. Just need to wait till the coaches, players, and the field are seniors.

MisterEm

Postal91 said:

Which seniors..... 2023?

dongman said:

He is young and john Smith is young, players are young. Even the field is young. Just need to wait till the coaches, players, and the field are seniors.

I already hate the 2023 recruiting class.

puppylove_sugarsteel

Nice 1st post dipshit. Care to state what you think Peter is delusional about? And dont spit out the obvious Johnny Smith bullshit. Has little to do with him. Ok Mayo, lets see what you got. This isnt dawgman, where you were posting this morning till boredom and kim ran you off, go ahead and feel free to speak here...

RaceBannon

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

Nice 1st post dipshit. Care to state what you think Peter is delusional about? And dont spit out the obvious Johnny Smith bullshit. Has little to do with him. Ok Mayo, lets see what you got. This isnt dawgman, where you were posting this morning till boredom and kim ran you off, go ahead and feel free to speak here...

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SteveInShelton

My issue with Smiff and Petersen is that they had a shit QB last year and somehow made it work somewhat. Miley had a high completion rate and had a 17/4 TD/INT ratio. Yes he sucked I know, but Petersen put him in a situation he could "succeed" in, probably because he didn't throw further than 5 yards and didn't throw 30 times until the Coog game.

My question is why did that philosophy change with Browning? Why have entire drives depend on Browning's ability to convert 3rd and longs? Why is he throwing over 30 times a game? Petersen and Smiff have put him in a position to fail, as a true freshman... It just doesn't make sense.

PurpleReign

I love that gif.

puppylove_sugarsteel

SteveInShelton said:

My issue with Smiff and Petersen is that they had a shit QB last year and somehow made it work somewhat. Miley had a high completion rate and had a 17/4 TD/INT ratio. Yes he sucked I know, but Petersen put him in a situation he could "succeed" in, probably because he didn't throw further than 5 yards and didn't throw 30 times until the Coog game.

My question is why did that philosophy change with Browning? Why have entire drives depend on Browning's ability to convert 3rd and longs? Why is he throwing over 30 times a game? Petersen and Smiff have put him in a position to fail, as a true freshman... It just doesn't make sense.

Because teams can load up to stop run knowing our WR's cant beat anybody off LOS, which they cant. Plus they can choose to rush just 3-4 on 3rd and long and snuff out any potential cheap conversions. Its all relative. As soon as our guard and center play improves, so too will running game (Adams is certain all pac12 at LT and RT is loaded going forward)

Dont forget Puppy said Ross' s injury was a blessing in disguise before season. (He was likely gone after this year ) Puppy was dead on as usual. Next year, as the running game really starts to assert itself, Browning will be in 3rd and 2 instead of 12, as Ross will be back just in time to blow the top off the backend of defenses, opening up the rifleman Browning to surgically dissect opponents . . Be patient assholes. This will be a very good football team. Not this year, get that through your fucking little blue bonnets.

PurpleReign

New OC? Sark needs a job.

Doogles

Why do we never go for it on 4th down when the chart says to do it? Or not go for two to make it a 2 possession game in the 4th instead of the death sentence of 3 possessions? A team stacked with seniors doesn't change any of that decision making.

I could go on, but pills and wine.

HFNY

Some good counter points Puppy.

JS has been too predictable on 2nd and short / medium IMHO though. He calls too many passes then rather than getting the first down...don't have the data but maybe others have noticed that as well.

In beating USC, Gaskin had 22 carries and 1 catch and Washington had 9 carries and 2 catches. Gaskin only had 18 carries against Oregon (Washington didn't play) and then 18 again @ Stanford while Washington had 1 carry and 2 catches (may not have been totally healthy). Arizona's D is two steps down from Stanford and probably not as good as USC's or Oregon's so there's no reason JS can't get those guys the same amount of touches as in the USC game.

Also with Browning back, I hope JS and Petersen aren't afraid to take a shot down field in one of the first few drives. Pending weather, they almost hit it a few times @ USC and one or two of those loosens the defense more than passing more times than they need to.

Regardless I agree with you about patience, especially as it relates to everything non-JS. JS really needs to step it up against some of the weaker D's in the conference (outside of Utah). If JS can't get it done, I don't see him coming back in 2016.

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

SteveInShelton said:

My issue with Smiff and Petersen is that they had a shit QB last year and somehow made it work somewhat. Miley had a high completion rate and had a 17/4 TD/INT ratio. Yes he sucked I know, but Petersen put him in a situation he could "succeed" in, probably because he didn't throw further than 5 yards and didn't throw 30 times until the Coog game.

My question is why did that philosophy change with Browning? Why have entire drives depend on Browning's ability to convert 3rd and longs? Why is he throwing over 30 times a game? Petersen and Smiff have put him in a position to fail, as a true freshman... It just doesn't make sense.

Because teams can load up to stop run knowing our WR's cant beat anybody off LOS, which they cant. Plus they can choose to rush just 3-4 on 3rd and long and snuff out any potential cheap conversions. Its all relative. As soon as our guard and center play improves, so too will running game (Adams is certain all pac12 at LT and RT is loaded going forward)

Dont forget Puppy said Ross' s injury was a blessing in disguise before season. (He was likely gone after this year ) Puppy was dead on as usual. Next year, as the running game really starts to assert itself, Browning will be in 3rd and 2 instead of 12, as Ross will be back just in time to blow the top off the backend of defenses, opening up the rifleman Browning to surgically dissect opponents . . Be patient assholes. This will be a very good football team. Not this year, get that through your fucking little blue bonnets.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

SteveInShelton said:

My issue with Smiff and Petersen is that they had a shit QB last year and somehow made it work somewhat. Miley had a high completion rate and had a 17/4 TD/INT ratio. Yes he sucked I know, but Petersen put him in a situation he could "succeed" in, probably because he didn't throw further than 5 yards and didn't throw 30 times until the Coog game.

My question is why did that philosophy change with Browning? Why have entire drives depend on Browning's ability to convert 3rd and longs? Why is he throwing over 30 times a game? Petersen and Smiff have put him in a position to fail, as a true freshman... It just doesn't make sense.

Because teams can load up to stop run knowing our WR's cant beat anybody off LOS, which they cant. Plus they can choose to rush just 3-4 on 3rd and long and snuff out any potential cheap conversions. Its all relative. As soon as our guard and center play improves, so too will running game (Adams is certain all pac12 at LT and RT is loaded going forward)

Dont forget Puppy said Ross' s injury was a blessing in disguise before season. (He was likely gone after this year ) Puppy was dead on as usual. Next year, as the running game really starts to assert itself, Browning will be in 3rd and 2 instead of 12, as Ross will be back just in time to blow the top off the backend of defenses, opening up the rifleman Browning to surgically dissect opponents . . Be patient assholes. This will be a very good football team. Not this year, get that through your fucking little blue bonnets.

And yet we've had drives against Cal, Oregon and Stanford where we (yes WE!) ran the ball on each play, scored on each drive and 2 of the drives were 5+ plays. Following those drives, JS moves away from the run. Against Oregon, following Gaskin's long TD run, UW had back to back 3 and out possessions that consisted of 5 passes and 1 run.

The Stanford game is somewhat excusable if you consider the fact Stanford marched right down the field and scored a TD on the wheel route to McCaffrey. Even then, the only sustainable offense of the night was Gaskin and the D was tired. Run Gaskin some more, rest the D and try to stay in the game with the only weapon you have.

SteveInShelton

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

SteveInShelton said:

My issue with Smiff and Petersen is that they had a shit QB last year and somehow made it work somewhat. Miley had a high completion rate and had a 17/4 TD/INT ratio. Yes he sucked I know, but Petersen put him in a situation he could "succeed" in, probably because he didn't throw further than 5 yards and didn't throw 30 times until the Coog game.

My question is why did that philosophy change with Browning? Why have entire drives depend on Browning's ability to convert 3rd and longs? Why is he throwing over 30 times a game? Petersen and Smiff have put him in a position to fail, as a true freshman... It just doesn't make sense.

Because teams can load up to stop run knowing our WR's cant beat anybody off LOS, which they cant. Plus they can choose to rush just 3-4 on 3rd and long and snuff out any potential cheap conversions. Its all relative. As soon as our guard and center play improves, so too will running game (Adams is certain all pac12 at LT and RT is loaded going forward)

Dont forget Puppy said Ross' s injury was a blessing in disguise before season. (He was likely gone after this year ) Puppy was dead on as usual. Next year, as the running game really starts to assert itself, Browning will be in 3rd and 2 instead of 12, as Ross will be back just in time to blow the top off the backend of defenses, opening up the rifleman Browning to surgically dissect opponents . . Be patient assholes. This will be a very good football team. Not this year, get that through your fucking little blue bonnets.

People still think Ross is going to be the same player he was? Before his injury he was an athlete playing WR that had speed, speed, speed. Without his speed he'll just blend in with the rest of the WR's we have. I also don't buy your reasoning that our WR's were somehow better last year. Mickens was the most productive reciever by a huge margin last year, news flash they sucked last year just like they do this year.

RoadDawg55

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

SteveInShelton said:

My issue with Smiff and Petersen is that they had a shit QB last year and somehow made it work somewhat. Miley had a high completion rate and had a 17/4 TD/INT ratio. Yes he sucked I know, but Petersen put him in a situation he could "succeed" in, probably because he didn't throw further than 5 yards and didn't throw 30 times until the Coog game.

My question is why did that philosophy change with Browning? Why have entire drives depend on Browning's ability to convert 3rd and longs? Why is he throwing over 30 times a game? Petersen and Smiff have put him in a position to fail, as a true freshman... It just doesn't make sense.

Because teams can load up to stop run knowing our WR's cant beat anybody off LOS, which they cant. Plus they can choose to rush just 3-4 on 3rd and long and snuff out any potential cheap conversions. Its all relative. As soon as our guard and center play improves, so too will running game (Adams is certain all pac12 at LT and RT is loaded going forward)

Dont forget Puppy said Ross' s injury was a blessing in disguise before season. (He was likely gone after this year ) Puppy was dead on as usual. Next year, as the running game really starts to assert itself, Browning will be in 3rd and 2 instead of 12, as Ross will be back just in time to blow the top off the backend of defenses, opening up the rifleman Browning to surgically dissect opponents . . Be patient assholes. This will be a very good football team. Not this year, get that through your fucking little blue bonnets.

That must be why Gaskin ha gained 108 yards or more in the past three games, averaging at least 6 a carry. I remember Shaq running very well last year too. The running game has already asserted itself. You and anyone who agree with this needs to watch the games.

Yeah, Ross sure blew the top off every defense last year. The staff had no fucking clue how to use him. Browning throws 30+ times because that's what Petersen wants to do, but don't give us any bullshit about it being necessary because teams stacking the box, etc.

Edit: My fault for making the same points. I didn't read the rest of the posts after Puppy's and couldn't believe there are actually dipshits on the board that agree with that shit. Petersen's offense have sucked for awhile.

sarktastic

This offense is fine. It's your expectations that need adjustment.

UW is achieving exactly what they're striving for with they're* football team.

MisterEm

PurpleReign said:

New OC? Sark needs a job.

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Bring him on. I'll pitch in for the booze and blow.