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Going for it on 4th and 1

BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367
In response to Race's post: college teams who go for it on 4-1 convert 75% of the time. Analytics show going for it on 4&1 anywhere over midfield to the opponents 30 has a 4:1 payoff as opposed to punting. In short, Smith/Peterman are stupid and Tequilla doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    We used to make fun of TequillaFS at the old HHB. Seems like this place is trending towards resembling a different site. One where the doog is king.
  • MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    Can't expect the boys in black, chrome, grey, and purple to compete on 4th and 1 with such a young O Line.
  • NevadaduckNevadaduck Member Posts: 193
    Well, in defense of the offensive line...
































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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    We used to make fun of TequillaFS at the old HHB. Seems like this place is trending towards resembling a different site. One where the doog is king.

    I have thought this site resembled doogman before. And it can at times. Then I went and looked at doogman after the Cal game and saw that I was mostly wrong.
    Yeah, cuz all the doogs came over here.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    I think a lot of posters actually supported this hire and can't bring themselves to admit just how bad Petersen has done. Many that didn't seem like Doogs a few years ago when Sark was coaching actually are. So we are seeing a lot of the same doogish shit we have read for years... Needs more time. Too young. Highlight individual players as if mediocre programs never have some good players. Blame Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812

    I think a lot of posters actually supported this hire and can't bring themselves to admit just how bad Petersen has done. Many that didn't seem like Doogs a few years ago when Sark was coaching actually are. So we are seeing a lot of the same doogish shit we have read for years... Needs more time. Too young. Highlight individual players as if mediocre programs never have some good players. Blame Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu.

    I supported the hire. I still think it was the hire with the best chance of success at the time, non Mora division.

    That said, he has sucked so far, no question. The only thing that separates him from the reign of dreck before him is he has at least eliminated the plunger from our vocabulary (at least until this Saturday). I know, Sark is better than Ty, yadda yadda yadda.

    He's not getting fired after this year, I think we all know that. He needs to get this shit figured out. I'd be a lot more confident he would if he had an AD that GAF about football.

    In conclusion, TSIFO, but I'm still barely in LIFPO mode on the hire. Uf we look like this this time next year I'll be the one registering www.FirePeterman.org.

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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    I think a lot of posters actually supported this hire and can't bring themselves to admit just how bad Petersen has done. Many that didn't seem like Doogs a few years ago when Sark was coaching actually are. So we are seeing a lot of the same doogish shit we have read for years... Needs more time. Too young. Highlight individual players as if mediocre programs never have some good players. Blame Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu.

    The circle of life.

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  • TommySQCTommySQC Member Posts: 5,813

    We used to make fun of TequillaFS at the old HHB. Seems like this place is trending towards resembling a different site. One where the doog is king.

    #RIP #fuckyoushellenberger
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Considering who did the hiring and who was considered it was a great hire. We were excited. We?. I was. But facts are pesky things. And the facts so far say either Petersen sucks or the systemic rot at UW makes it impossible for anyone to succeed.

    I said systemic. Big word. Look it up

    But Pool Boy built Husky Stadium!
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Considering who did the hiring and who was considered it was a great hire. We were excited. We?. I was. But facts are pesky things. And the facts so far say either Petersen sucks or the systemic rot at UW makes it impossible for anyone to succeed.

    I said systemic. Big word. Look it up

    My guess is Pool Boy got stars in his eyes over the OKG stuff because he knew it would go down well on campus, told Potato Pete that he wasn't going to be on the hook for championships, and what has happened was just a direct outcome of those two factors. In other words, Pete needs to move into his office last Saturday.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,963
    It's easy after the fact to look at any call and say that this should have been done versus that ...

    Had Pete gone for it, we got stuffed, then Oregon went down and immediately scored a TD in what turned into a plunger game, I would expect that at least half of you miserable fucks would have been whining that Pete went for it.

    It's one of those calls where if it works it's a great call ... if it doesn't you should have done the other ... and if you punt you're immediately in the wrong.

    UW didn't lose that game because of punting there.
  • priapismpriapism Member Posts: 2,226
    UW would have converted it and kicked a field goal a handful of plays later, and would have only lost by 3. 26-23.
    Perhaps Smith was relying on the belief that the defense was going to score more TDs than his offense.
  • DardanusDardanus Member Posts: 2,623
    sys·tem·ic
    səˈstemik/Submit
    adjective
    adjective: systemic
    1.
    of or relating to a system, especially as opposed to a particular part.
    "the disease is localized rather than systemic"
    (of an insecticide, fungicide, or similar substance) entering the plant via the roots or shoots and passing through the tissues.
    2.
    PHYSIOLOGY
    denoting the part of the circulatory system concerned with the transportation of oxygen to and carbon dioxide from the body in general, especially as distinct from the pulmonary part concerned with the transportation of oxygen from and carbon dioxide to the lungs.
    Origin

    early 19th century: formed irregularly from system + -ic.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    It's easy after the fact to look at any call and say that this should have been done versus that ...

    Had Pete gone for it, we got stuffed, then Oregon went down and immediately scored a TD in what turned into a plunger game, I would expect that at least half of you miserable fucks would have been whining that Pete went for it.

    It's one of those calls where if it works it's a great call ... if it doesn't you should have done the other ... and if you punt you're immediately in the wrong.

    UW didn't lose that game because of punting there.

    Playing not to lose big is always special.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,963

    Tequilla said:

    It's easy after the fact to look at any call and say that this should have been done versus that ...

    Had Pete gone for it, we got stuffed, then Oregon went down and immediately scored a TD in what turned into a plunger game, I would expect that at least half of you miserable fucks would have been whining that Pete went for it.

    It's one of those calls where if it works it's a great call ... if it doesn't you should have done the other ... and if you punt you're immediately in the wrong.

    UW didn't lose that game because of punting there.

    Playing not to lose big is always special.
    Missing the point as usual
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