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Freeman Dyson: Obama took wrong side on the climate issue
GrundleStiltzkin
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Top boffin Freeman Dyson on climate change, interstellar travel, fusion, and more
Are climate models getting better? You wrote how they have the most awful fudges, and they only really impress people who don't know about them.Worth the read, even past the headline.
I would say the opposite. What has happened in the past 10 years is that the discrepancies between what's observed and what's predicted have become much stronger. It's clear now the models are wrong, but it wasn't so clear 10 years ago. I can't say if they'll always be wrong, but the observations are improving and so the models are becoming more verifiable.
It seems almost medieval to suppose that nature is punishing us, rather than the Enlightenment view, that we can tame nature, and still be good stewards of it.
That's all true.
It's now difficult for scientists to have frank and honest input into public debates. Prof Brian Cox, who is the public face of physics in the UK thanks to the BBC, has said he has no obligation to listen to "deniers," or to any other views other than the orthodoxy.
That's a problem, but still I find that I have things to say and people do listen to me, and people have no particular complaints.
It's very sad that in this country, political opinion parted [people's views on climate change]. I'm 100 per cent Democrat myself, and I like Obama. But he took the wrong side on this issue, and the Republicans took the right side.
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Someone doesn't know the difference between a model predicting future climate and actual historical information. It's great how you read fudged numbers and use that to confirm your bias.
Nice work.
Nice work.
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