Hijack threads and cherry pick data. That's what I like to do.
The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion. In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
Hijack threads and cherry pick data. That's what I like to do.
The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion. In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
Nice work, you bitch about me cherry picking data, which I didn't do. Then you do what? Cherry pick data. Why don't you show a graph out a trend of SNAP? You'll see it increasing from 2007 through last year then decreasing. So your point of increasing handouts is false.
For the OPs point, I addressed his point directly if you read my posts. Look at the information used to accumulate the data. Then I pointed out positive news from the exact same article which you dismiss.
You see the point yet? You are trying to argue the economy is dumpster fire when it's not. It's not the economy of the 90s, but it's much better than it was 7 years ago. And that's a fact.
Hijack threads and cherry pick data. That's what I like to do.
The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion. In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
Nice work, you bitch about me cherry picking data, which I didn't do. Then you do what? Cherry pick data. Why don't you show a graph out a trend of SNAP? You'll see it increasing from 2007 through last year then decreasing. So your point of increasing handouts is false.
For the OPs point, I addressed his point directly if you read my posts. Look at the information used to accumulate the data. Then I pointed out positive news from the exact same article which you dismiss.
You see the point yet? You are trying to argue the economy is dumpster fire when it's not. It's not the economy of the 90s, but it's much better than it was 7 years ago. And that's a fact.
It makes so much sense now why you were such a stout Sark defender on dawgbored.
So let me get this straight. Under obama, foodstamp participation grew from 28 million to 47 million, then shrunk to 46 million. And that's a good thing?
Hijack threads and cherry pick data. That's what I like to do.
The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion. In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
Nice work, you bitch about me cherry picking data, which I didn't do. Then you do what? Cherry pick data. Why don't you show a graph out a trend of SNAP? You'll see it increasing from 2007 through last year then decreasing. So your point of increasing handouts is false.
For the OPs point, I addressed his point directly if you read my posts. Look at the information used to accumulate the data. Then I pointed out positive news from the exact same article which you dismiss.
You see the point yet? You are trying to argue the economy is dumpster fire when it's not. It's not the economy of the 90s, but it's much better than it was 7 years ago. And that's a fact.
It makes so much sense now why you were such a stout Sark defender on dawgbored.
Hijack threads and cherry pick data. That's what I like to do.
The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion. In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
Nice work, you bitch about me cherry picking data, which I didn't do. Then you do what? Cherry pick data. Why don't you show a graph out a trend of SNAP? You'll see it increasing from 2007 through last year then decreasing. So your point of increasing handouts is false.
For the OPs point, I addressed his point directly if you read my posts. Look at the information used to accumulate the data. Then I pointed out positive news from the exact same article which you dismiss.
You see the point yet? You are trying to argue the economy is dumpster fire when it's not. It's not the economy of the 90s, but it's much better than it was 7 years ago. And that's a fact.
It makes so much sense now why you were such a stout Sark defender on dawgbored.
So let me get this straight. Under obama, foodstamp participation grew from 28 million to 47 million, then shrunk to 46 million. And that's a good thing?
Hijack threads and cherry pick data. That's what I like to do.
The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion. In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
Nice work, you bitch about me cherry picking data, which I didn't do. Then you do what? Cherry pick data. Why don't you show a graph out a trend of SNAP? You'll see it increasing from 2007 through last year then decreasing. So your point of increasing handouts is false.
For the OPs point, I addressed his point directly if you read my posts. Look at the information used to accumulate the data. Then I pointed out positive news from the exact same article which you dismiss.
You see the point yet? You are trying to argue the economy is dumpster fire when it's not. It's not the economy of the 90s, but it's much better than it was 7 years ago. And that's a fact.
It makes so much sense now why you were such a stout Sark defender on dawgbored.
Hijack threads and cherry pick data. That's what I like to do.
The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion. In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
Nice work, you bitch about me cherry picking data, which I didn't do. Then you do what? Cherry pick data. Why don't you show a graph out a trend of SNAP? You'll see it increasing from 2007 through last year then decreasing. So your point of increasing handouts is false.
For the OPs point, I addressed his point directly if you read my posts. Look at the information used to accumulate the data. Then I pointed out positive news from the exact same article which you dismiss.
You see the point yet? You are trying to argue the economy is dumpster fire when it's not. It's not the economy of the 90s, but it's much better than it was 7 years ago. And that's a fact.
It makes so much sense now why you were such a stout Sark defender on dawgbored.
Hijack threads and cherry pick data. That's what I like to do.
The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion. In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
Nice work, you bitch about me cherry picking data, which I didn't do. Then you do what? Cherry pick data. Why don't you show a graph out a trend of SNAP? You'll see it increasing from 2007 through last year then decreasing. So your point of increasing handouts is false.
For the OPs point, I addressed his point directly if you read my posts. Look at the information used to accumulate the data. Then I pointed out positive news from the exact same article which you dismiss.
You see the point yet? You are trying to argue the economy is dumpster fire when it's not. It's not the economy of the 90s, but it's much better than it was 7 years ago. And that's a fact.
It makes so much sense now why you were such a stout Sark defender on dawgbored.
The unemployment rate is fast approaching the 5-to-5.2 percent range that Fed policy makers have defined as full employment. The rate dropped to 5.3 percent in June, the lowest since April 2008.
And unemployment claims are the lowest since 1973. I'm so confused.
That is because of are fucking stupid.
HTH but it won't.
Since you are the master of insight. Why don't you explain it to me then.
You are arguing unemployment rates. The thread is about the overall pay for these "jobs" have been stagnant.
Fucking moron.
So you don't think unemployment has anything to do with pay rates? Or realize the article says much more than "pay rates suck". Get past the headline.
Basically, Hondo is arguing that lower pay is fine because a higher percentage of people are working?
How did you read that? And I'm the one with the 8th grade education. I'm clearly saying that the supply and demand of jobs isn't propping up pay. If you buy into their methodology of polling 600 small businesses. In my industry, pay is doing well and I know several industries, such as medical and IT where wages are very high. Go apply as Microsoft with a 4 year college degree and get your 100k a year salary right out of school.
In other words, they called 600 convenience stores and said that's a representative sample.
1) It doesn't say who they surveyed, so you're assuming
2) It says the job market is tightning so there should be more competition for fewer employees, so more pay is needed to bring in competent workers. If that isn't the case then.............
3) Does this mean the growth in the job market is only in the minimum wage market?
The unemployment rate is fast approaching the 5-to-5.2 percent range that Fed policy makers have defined as full employment. The rate dropped to 5.3 percent in June, the lowest since April 2008.
And unemployment claims are the lowest since 1973. I'm so confused.
That is because of are fucking stupid.
HTH but it won't.
Since you are the master of insight. Why don't you explain it to me then.
You are arguing unemployment rates. The thread is about the overall pay for these "jobs" have been stagnant.
Fucking moron.
So you don't think unemployment has anything to do with pay rates? Or realize the article says much more than "pay rates suck". Get past the headline.
Basically, Hondo is arguing that lower pay is fine because a higher percentage of people are working?
How did you read that? And I'm the one with the 8th grade education. I'm clearly saying that the supply and demand of jobs isn't propping up pay. If you buy into their methodology of polling 600 small businesses. In my industry, pay is doing well and I know several industries, such as medical and IT where wages are very high. Go apply as Microsoft with a 4 year college degree and get your 100k a year salary right out of school.
In other words, they called 600 convenience stores and said that's a representative sample.
1) It doesn't say who they surveyed, so you're assuming
2) It says the job market is tightning so there should be more competition for fewer employees, so more pay is needed to bring in competent workers. If that isn't the case then.............
3) Does this mean the growth in the job market is only in the minimum wage market?
Obama's America
Surveys of small businesses, at least, show managers aren’t planning on further need to raise wages in order to attract and retain employees. A net 11 percent of managers in June said they plan to increase pay, the fewest since January 2014, according to 620 responses in a National Federation of Independent Business survey. A net 21 percent said they had already recently boosted worker compensation.
While yes I don't know what small businesses. But the vast majority of small businesses are service according to the economists on here, so I can project that most of those surveyed are services.
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The OP showed how wages continue to fall in the obama economy. HRYK
Since you couldn't rationally argue with falling wages, you bring up unemployment. As was pointed out, if unemployment were actually falling, wages would go up. Pretty simple supply and demand.
Since you couldn't rationally argue that fact, you bring up foodstamps. And you do your best to cherry pick numbers, claiming that foodstamp participation has fallen. Month to month changes are meaningless.
In 2008, 28.2 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $37.6 billion.
In 2014, 46.5 million people were on food stamps, at a cost of $74.2 billion.
fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
For the OPs point, I addressed his point directly if you read my posts. Look at the information used to accumulate the data. Then I pointed out positive news from the exact same article which you dismiss.
You see the point yet? You are trying to argue the economy is dumpster fire when it's not. It's not the economy of the 90s, but it's much better than it was 7 years ago. And that's a fact.
2) It says the job market is tightning so there should be more competition for fewer employees, so more pay is needed to bring in competent workers. If that isn't the case then.............
3) Does this mean the growth in the job market is only in the minimum wage market?
Obama's America
A net 11 percent of managers in June said they plan to increase pay, the fewest since January 2014, according to 620 responses in a National Federation of Independent Business survey. A net 21 percent said they had already recently boosted worker compensation.
While yes I don't know what small businesses. But the vast majority of small businesses are service according to the economists on here, so I can project that most of those surveyed are services.
Sounds good to me.